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Harvey Specter 07-07-2009 08:32 PM

He was one remarkably man. Too bad he surrounded himself with the wrong people who ultimately cost him his career and life.

Grandmaster TSE 07-07-2009 08:49 PM

you guys mention the accusations of him being a pedophile, but how about all the things he did for the world

the media will always talk about the bad news first, and even then, might not be the truth

SkinnyPupp 07-07-2009 09:05 PM

What a disgusting, pathetic way to get your name in the news. I hope she gets raped by a real pervert some day.

B-DiZzLe 07-07-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferra (Post 6498387)
I hope you are not serious, it seems like you are supporting the side of the pedophiles.

And what's wrong with bashing MJ? He is a fucking pedophiles and a freak. Few years ago all the media and public were bashing at him during his trial. Now that he died, suddenly his sins are gone and he becomes all innocence?

And it is probably good for him that he died before he embarrasses himself on his money grabbing concert.


What were his sins? Being an incredible artist / person? How is he NOT innocent? Stop pulling facts out of your ass and start pulling your head out of it.


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Originally Posted by johny (Post 6498455)
the video of him hanging a child off his balcony is pretty good evidence...



Good EVIDENCE? of WHAT? Are you telling me by showing the public your child you're instantly a pedophile?




If there was any type of evidence of MJ being a pedophile he would have been charged, not once, but TWICE. But till this day, there is nothing, therefore he is innocent.

Roach 07-07-2009 09:45 PM

This horrible man holds the Guinness World Record for most charities supported at a total of 39..

And we're not talking about $20 here and there.

Kev

ToyotaPowah 07-07-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6498378)
Wasn't he in debt hundreds of millions of dollars, yet they had a gold-plated casket for him? I don't give a fuck that he died. I remember him as a singer who was accused of molesting children. :2finger: MJ, fucking pedophiles

Yes, he did have a lot of debt. He also had a shit load of assets as well. Probably a 2:1 ratio.

TVD 07-07-2009 10:29 PM

What the congressman said is pure crap as Michael's never been convicted of the charges against him. You don't say this kind of stuff without evidence. He's slandering him unjustly.

That being said, he's just saying what a lot of people are thinking in the back of their minds and a majority of the fault has to go to Michael himself. He's done it with his eccentric behavior over the years. I.E. the drastic changes in his looks, his seemingly fake marriages to Lisa Marie and Deb. Rowe, having kids via cash/consideration arrangements with women where the mother seemingly has no role with the children after, admitting to having sleep overs with boys in the same room at his age, and also some very naive comments in interviews which made him an easy target. I can't say one way or the other whether the allegations are true or not.

What gets me is that from all the speculation is that he has been abusing prescription drugs for a long time. It might've been a major factor in his passing. To me, it's just common sense that abusing this type of stuff is very detrimental to your health and your putting yourself at major risk. So it's kind of hard for me to have much sympathy for the guy. I do have major sympathy for his family and friends though. It's heartbreaking to know that his kids will have to go on without him as it seems that he was actually a good father.

Let me just say that I will forever recognize and respect the talent that was MJ. I just wish I could whole heartedly say the same thing about the man.

Mancini 07-07-2009 10:32 PM

To my knowledge he was never convicted of any crime. So any opinion on the matter is mere speculation.

However, if I remember correctly, he settled out-of-court to the tune of many, many millions with a family that accused him of molesting their child. People draw their own inferences about that.

What everyone does know as a matter of certainty is that he took his infant and dangled it over a four story balcony. Inexcusable. Regardless of whether or not he was "excited".

m4k4v4li 07-07-2009 10:42 PM

publicity stunnnnnnt

Harvey Specter 07-07-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancini (Post 6498861)
To my knowledge he was never convicted of any crime. So any opinion on the matter is mere speculation.

However, if I remember correctly, he settled out-of-court to the tune of many, many millions with a family that accused him of molesting their child. People draw their own inferences about that.

What everyone does know as a matter of certainty is that he took his infant and dangled it over a four story balcony. Inexcusable. Regardless of whether or not he was "excited".

His lawyer at the time who advised him to settle was on CNN a few days ago and said he regrets settling the case out of court because he said Michael was innocent but didn't want a circus like trial.

gnat. 07-07-2009 10:46 PM

like everyone else here has said...he was never convicted! also it has been said that he was raised in a very uptight family. his father stressed him out so much...for instance, bringing out the whip when him and his brothers (jackson 5) were rehearsing. what more is that he started performing ever so young. so can you blame him if he's a lil odd? if he was trying to "stay forever young", chasing after a childhood he never had...?

to top it off the world will NEVER, and i repeat...NEVER see anyone like Michael Jackson ever again. he was a wondrous performer - a one of a kind. there was never anyone like him before, and there never will be ever again.

a lot of the dance moves we admire today were created by him.
not to mention he did apologize for what he did to his child. but that doesn't matter does it? his son never blamed him, hell his daughter spoke of love when she was called to stage during his funeral....so if his children don't mind why should you? we have no reason to judge him. everything we see from the media is just the surface and a certain perspective of things.

he was odd. yes! but he will always be a legend. RIP MJ!

Durrann1984 07-07-2009 10:49 PM

MJ did a lot for this world.
with charities and all

i believe he paved way for black ppl and other races as well
in the music market

TheKingdom2000 07-07-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by coupeziRL (Post 6497394)
What's with the China uprising title and the thread being about MJ? lol

Honestly, I hate people who take things for granted, that being said I never listened to any of his songs. Anyways, none of you guys talked about Jackson until he died, that alone says something. None of the radio stations I listen to played his songs or they rarely did. Once he dies, Virgin Radio plays his songs throughout the whole day? He WAS something special once upon a time, now let's move on. That's just my 2 cents.

so you never listened to his songs huh?
so you must be 5 years old? what type of music do you listen to?
this man that you seem to have no respect for has shaped music into what it is today.

And no my friend. MJ is something special...
he's dead, we will move on. whats the big deal about covering his death for a week or two? he is a celeb, this is what happens when you are a celeb, and you are as famous and as influential as MJ.

that's just my two cents.

jbsali 07-07-2009 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancini (Post 6498861)
To my knowledge he was never convicted of any crime. So any opinion on the matter is mere speculation.

However, if I remember correctly, he settled out-of-court to the tune of many, many millions with a family that accused him of molesting their child. People draw their own inferences about that.


i agree!

it was all for money. if someone sexually molested your child, would you settle? If i couldn't get the child molester thrown in jail, id kill him myself.
that money would just be a slap in the face.

He settled so that the family would stop ruining his life.

This reminds me a lot of the 6 year old girl that was sexually assualted this week. i hope the father of that child find the guy that did it. a local business man even put out a $20,000 reward for his capture.

europeeing 07-07-2009 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roach (Post 6498762)
This horrible man holds the Guinness World Record for most charities supported at a total of 39..

And we're not talking about $20 here and there.

Kev

Amen. He's done so much for this world that know one even recognizes, much further beyond his music.

gnat. 07-07-2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbsali (Post 6498922)
i agree!

it was all for money. if someone sexually molested your child, would you settle? If i couldn't get the child molester thrown in jail, id kill him myself.
that money would just be a slap in the face.

He settled so that the family would stop ruining his life.

This reminds me a lot of the 6 year old girl that was sexually assualted this week. i hope the father of that child find the guy that did it. a local business man even put out a $20,000 reward for his capture.

+1!!

Ikkaku 07-08-2009 01:06 AM

SWEET! now that somebody is publicly accusing MJ, lets all jump on the bandwagon and bash the guy while he's dead!

fuckin' ridiculous.

Next, let's sue Disney because in the original Lion King, the proud father got the baboon to lift Samba at the edge of the cliff to show the rest of the animals, maybe that will influenced shitloads of people to do the same.

achiam 07-08-2009 02:33 AM

If I was rich and famous I think I'd just go running everyday. You can't go wrong if you train and run marathons on a regular basis. Just look at Madonna!

Hot Karl 07-08-2009 03:12 AM

just sick of the constant mj coverage.

won't they focus on the next missing white woman already? what about jon and kate? i need to know what's going on there.

Ferra 07-08-2009 06:23 AM

he settled the case for 20 fucking millions
Would you pay some random guy who were accusing you 20 millions if you were really innocent?
Would his lawyer have advise him to settle out of court for 20 millions if he thinks he have a chance of winning the case?


A lot of parents are willing to sell out their kid for less than hundreds of thousands of dollars. You'd be surprised at how many people would rather take 20 millions instead of seeing the guy in jail. The kid's family weren't rich to begin with either.

ChaKo 07-08-2009 06:59 AM

I'm sure the sum paid out had to be moderately proportionate to his wealth. Back then, 20 million was probably nothing to him. Michael paid out the money because he wanted to spare his family the agony of a long trial, so any advice from his lawyer would've been thrown out the window. If there really was a strong enough case against Michael, I'm sure the DA would've taken it up as they wouldn't just let a pedophile walk away.

Noir 07-08-2009 08:33 AM

I really respect the guy's work but in all fairness, the "he was never convicted" doesn't really hold much weight considering the it's the American Justice system. I mean, OJ wasn't convicted either. Just goes to show that innocence can be bought for the people with the resources to buy them.

Anyhow, guilty or not, for some reason it doesn't really bother me. Dig deep enough and everyone has their own demons. Hell, Allen Iverson has been in jail and constantly in trouble with assault and firearm possessions but I still like the guy and what he stood for (showed the world that Bball isn't just a tall people sport).

Mancini 07-08-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri (Post 6498886)
His lawyer at the time who advised him to settle was on CNN a few days ago and said he regrets settling the case out of court because he said Michael was innocent but didn't want a circus like trial.

People don't buy it:

1. Even if you have an 8 or 9 figure net worth you're not likely to spend $20 million to avoid inconvenience. And even if he did, then;
2. Wouldn't you want to clear your name if you were innocent?

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Originally Posted by gnat. (Post 6498888)
not to mention he did apologize for what he did to his child. but that doesn't matter does it? his son never blamed him, hell his daughter spoke of love when she was called to stage during his funeral....so if his children don't mind why should you? we have no reason to judge him.

His [then] infant son is still a very young minor. Your assessment of his son's feelings of blame (if he even knows about the incident) are irrelevant - even if you know him personally .

An apology doesn't absolve Michael. He willfully put his son in a disturbingly dangerous position. I was at the Brandenburg gates in Berlin after this happened and it was a straight fall down to the street below.

If he had the appropriate regard for his son in the first place this would never have happened. You don't let a criminal off the hook simply because he is sorry and you don't release someone from this type of morally wreckless behavior just because he's sorry.

bengy 07-08-2009 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancini (Post 6499321)
People don't buy it:

1. Even if you have an 8 or 9 figure net worth you're not likely to spend $20 million to avoid inconvenience. And even if he did, then;
2. Wouldn't you want to clear your name if you were innocent?



His [then] infant son is still a very young minor. Your assessment of his son's feelings of blame (if he even knows about the incident) are irrelevant - even if you know him personally .

An apology doesn't absolve Michael. He willfully put his son in a disturbingly dangerous position. I was at the Brandenburg gates in Berlin after this happened and it was a straight fall down to the street below.

If he had the appropriate regard for his son in the first place this would never have happened. You don't let a criminal off the hook simply because he is sorry and you don't release someone from this type of morally wreckless behavior just because he's sorry.

He was never convicted of anything, so he's not a criminal. Try again.

Mancini 07-08-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6499326)
He was never convicted of anything, so he's not a criminal. Try again.

I agree with you. I've already said the same thing in an earlier post.

I didn't call him a criminal. It was an analogy leading to the second part of the sentence.

What I did call him was "morally wreckless".

Try again.


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