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that is nuts,, i was at a bbq in south van and then boom i seen a huge flash and then big thick smoke after. Woah crazy. Didnt know it was a plane!!

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 6501927)

I don't think their crews are on the scene yet... not even any media anywhere online either

Wow does this mean Revscene is quicker to gather info than the emergancy respose and the press there is money to be made here lol

there's a possibility that the Navajo might've came into the approach a little to close to the A320 up ahead and got caught in the wake turbulence and spiraled it straight down into the ground.

wake turbulence from transport jet is extremely powerful to say the least. i would never want to get caught in one of those if i was in a general aviation aircraft or light/medium sized...

RIP

So where exactly did the plane crash?

Ikea... like near where aj racing used to be

apparently the plane was carrying blood!

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertai...106/story.html

Lucky AJR has moved to a new place. Otherwise....

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Originally Posted by GomGom (Post 6502423)

Lucky AJR has moved to a new place. Otherwise....

more S2ks in flames?

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Originally Posted by pandalove (Post 6502432)

more S2ks in flames?

^ LoL ;)

^^ New addition at AJR: Real AIRPLANE wings!

^^^ LOL!
wow another plane crash. sucks.
but yeah i was down at bridgeport last night too! (by oak bridge)
lights flickered....and then all of a sudden it was a blackout. apparently river rock was like that too.

RIP!

^ umm. i live on bridgeport and my lights didnt flicker or even go out.

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Originally Posted by asahai69 (Post 6502541)

^ umm. i live on bridgeport and my lights didnt flicker or even go out.

different grid.

I'd be willing to bet it was the wake turbulence. Very few other factors other than major mechanical failure (like a wing breaking off) will cause a plane to nosedive into the ground during the landing sequence.

During flight school, one of our instructors told us he was once caught in one behind a jetliner. He had to use full stick deflection just to stay level and almost crapped his pants.

^That is most likley the cause of the crash. The initial reports and eyewitness reports both include something about the navajo following closey to a turbojet. Anytime you have a small prop plane flying following the path of a big turbojet isn't a good thing. I was told stories of such by my instructor both the planes during takeoff and landings. That being said, shouldn't the ATC be responsible for spacing out the aircrafts during landing sequence and I would also assume the piper was flying VFR and with the visibility we had, he should've been able to spot the plane that's in front of them tho.

Wait so maybe it was explained already in this thread not sure but how did the plane crash connect to the 1-2 minute blackouts?

For you pilots, are runways one way only? Common sense would say yes, but I swear, I saw a plane take off towards the east from the southern runway. I always thought planes landed on that runway heading west?

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Originally Posted by In_MODeration (Post 6502758)

Wait so maybe it was explained already in this thread not sure but how did the plane crash connect to the 1-2 minute blackouts?

when the plane crash landed it took out some power lines too

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 6502759)

no common sense says the plane lands facing the wind as much as possible for maximum low speed lift.

So a run way is land-able in both directions. The decision is on the wind direction and control tower instructions.

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 6502759)

Nope, alternate landings/takeoffs.

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Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 6502780)

Oops, forgot about other factors such as wind direction...

And I just saw on google maps that the YVR runways have tire markings on both ends of the runway... :)

i live in east van and lights flickered around 10pm last night..related?

Wow, so sad.

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465...n?size=620x400

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RICHMOND - His friends and family had planned to honour Jeremy Sunderland tonight with a 28th birthday party, but instead they will gather to remember his life.

The charismatic Sunderland — a member of Tsawwassen’s long-time and well-respected Mills family — was one of two co-pilots who died Thursday night in a fiery plane crash in the parking lot of a Richmond transmission shop.

The news sent shockwaves through Sunderland’s many friends and family, including Andrew Davidson, who said his friend was “a genuine straight shooter that will truly be missed.”

“It’s hit us like a ton of bricks,” said Davidson, who grew up in a house on Tsawwassen Beach Avenue near Sunderland’s grandfather and step-father. “He was just a guy you’d see as you walked into a room and you knew you’d be in for a good conversation. He had a view on everything.”

Sunderland, who went to high school as Jeremy Mills but later changed his name to Sunderland after he graduated, is a member of the large and respected Mills family, founders of the Mills Paint chain.

An avid boater, he grew up spending his summers on the water and dreamt of becoming a pilot. His dreams were realized after he attended flight school in Victoria and got a job with Canadian Air Services.

He has been flying seriously for about six years and was often on the same route. His friends described Sunderland as a responsible, serious, hard-working and driven man, who had an entrepreneurial bent, painting houses on the side when he wasn’t working as a pilot.

By the time he was 15, Sunderland had raised $1,600 to buy a blue Nissan sports car. The car sat in his driveway for two months until he got his licence.

And when the Canadian dollar was higher, he bought a Porsche in California and brought it back to B.C. for resale. While he waited for the market to improve, he often drove it, Davidson said.

“He’d show up for a paint job in a Porsche,” he said. “He was a little entrepreneur, he always wanted to make money.”

Sunderland’s death came just two days after he turned 28 on Tuesday. His friends and family sent him messages wishing him a happy birthday, but he was planning to celebrate tonight in a joint party with a cousin.

Davidson said Sunderland loved to relax on his grandfather’s boat and was always in a good mood. “We’ve known the family for ages,” said Andrew’s father Ron Davidson. “He was a really nice kid. If he saw you, he’d come over and say hello and get the conversation going. He was personable, friendly, a good human being.”

The Davidsons said Sunderland didn't talk a lot about being a pilot or brag about it, although he wore a trademark bomber-style black leather jacket.

“He always had a leather coat on. He always looked good,” Andrew Davidson said. “He was beyond fun. Whenever you saw him it was smiles all around. He could always turn any situation into a fun situation. He was a character.”

His former high school teacher Stephen Fera was stunned to hear about the death of Sunderland, whom he described as a “very intelligent, good-looking young man with a bright future.”

“I’m just so upset,” he said. “I can’t believe it.”

As a student, Fera said Sunderland was attentive in class and highly liked and respected by his classmates and teachers.

“He was going places,” Fera said. “Maybe he had a sparkle in the eye or a mischievous glint in his eye but he never did anything bad. He had a lot of spunk.

“He’ll be sorely missed by the community. He was never down, he was always up.” ksinoski@vancouversun.com

lpynn@vancouversun.com

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Originally Posted by Selanne_200 (Post 6502596)

I'm guessing you're also a pilot? :)

It's hard to judge distance in the air as there is such a difference between wingspans. It's not like cars where every vehicle is pretty much the same width, and everyone knows how many motorcycles get run over because some driver misjudged distance. :rolleyes:

If it was indeed the wake turbulence that did the plane in, you're right, the controller would be at fault. It's probably just an honest accident though. You're looking at 3 runways, landing hundreds of problems a day. I'm sure controllers make mistakes all the time, as we're all only human. Unfortunately, this one resulted in 2 deaths.

I feel bad for the controller on duty. Not only does he/she now have to live with this forever, but his/her future career as an ATC could be completely hooped at this point.