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Old 07-13-2009, 06:03 PM   #1
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Econ 331 (math econ) @ SFU

How was this course?

Need some feedback. What kind of math skills are required?

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Should I take this course or I.O. (Econ 325) Instead?


P.S. I am planning on doing 301 and 305 at the same time. Good idea or bad idea?
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Have you done Buec 333? Taking 301 and 302 will help for 331, and your math skills should be above par. Why not take 355 to fulfill your upper level writing and the group requirement?
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:11 PM   #3
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355, 354, 353 were not offered (keep in mind i forgot my registration date and registered today FACK).

I did ok in Calc. Was it a lot of derivatives? Logs? I can see the exponential function being useful
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take 302 first then 325 because they are very closely related. take 325 with marie rekkas, she's the best. she usually teaches in spring time, i would not recommend taking it with any other prof.
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I have never heard of Econ 354 or Econ 353 but Econ 355 IS being offered this semester, as it is practically every semester.
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Thanks guys, lots of great info from everyone.

Do you think its manageable to take 301 and 305 at the same time?

And RF, do you mind checking your gosfu again because I can only see Econ 345 being offered and the next course after is Econ 378. How much math is needed for both of these courses as well?

I'm going to brush up with my grade 12 book


And what happened to the SFU Econ Thread? Or am I making stuff up again.
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Here is the SFU thread:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/anyon...t-t541525.html

The reason why 355 is not showing up is because the class is full. You have to uncheck the 'Show open classes only' to see a full class.

345 is pretty simple, you don't need any hard math, simple calculations such as basic algebra is all that is needed. Plus some common sense.

301 and 305 go well with each other as they complement each other. Depending on what you learn in 305, you will go over basic 301 stuff which will help. Neither are truly hard, although 301 probably more difficult than 305.



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Yeah, I've already taken 345 and my prof spoke engrish. Fun times listening to him pronounce arbitrage (no racist)

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331 with Bertille Antoine is pretty good.
she does teach really fast and the homework assignments make you think.

what is your goal in doing economics?
there are two types of students in economics.

1. the ones that want a simple easy degree - then don't take 331. you will suffer.

2. the ones that actually want to learn and do a honours, maybe MA. then you will NEED 331 for later courses, like 402, 403, 435, etc.

since you are taking 301 and 305 at the same time, it is NOT a good idea to take 331. It includes matrix algebra that you don't need unless you take 402 or 403 later on. and you are expected to have good understanding about game theory and optimization theory, which you don't since you haven't taken 301 or 302.

people who take 331 are the ones who are have done more than 50% of their 3xx courses.


trust me, I did a Econ Honours and took practically every upper level econ the catalog offers. I am also starting MA at SFU in the fall.
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if you take 301 and 305, another good course with it would be say 342, 345, 353, or 382.

if you want a more challenging semester, take BUEC 333.

do the core courses first, then move onto more electives.
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i took buec333, econ 301, and econ 305 all in same semester and it was manageable...just need to do lots of readings but you won't die from it
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Oh shit tell us what class you are TAing for Econ, although ill be OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHA
i signed up for

1. 103 with Myers
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4. 103 with Dudnyk

maybe i will be teaching 3xx courses in the spring. i don't know yet. haha


it's managable to take 301+305+333, yes. but do you want to stress yourself liek that? probably not. (you can't read the 333 textbook, it's just too longgggggg)
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Isn't it usually the summer classes when TA's teach due to professors taking time off? I know it was like that for my 345 and boy was it a mess

Ask Alphamale about this 210 class right now, LOL
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Isn't it usually the summer classes when TA's teach due to professors taking time off? I know it was like that for my 345 and boy was it a mess

Ask Alphamale about this 210 class right now, LOL
A teaching assistant is the one who takes care of tutorials. Lectures are covered by professors or sessional instructors.

Some sessional instructors are also PhD students. As such, they are poor, so they will also take TAships for extra money.
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A teaching assistant is the one who takes care of tutorials. Lectures are covered by professors or sessional instructors.

Some sessional instructors are also PhD students. As such, they are poor, so they will also take TAships for extra money.
So basically you are saying what I was saying? Obviously SFU wont allow non PhD candidate students to become sessional professors. I don't think you are allowed to become a sessional instructor unless you have had TA experience. Well from my experience, Bo Chen taught me 345 and then was a TA the subsequent semester.

And my former TA for 342 is now lecturing for 210.

Both pretty bad at teaching
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So basically you are saying what I was saying? Obviously SFU wont allow non PhD candidate students to become sessional professors. I don't think you are allowed to become a sessional instructor unless you have had TA experience. Well from my experience, Bo Chen taught me 345 and then was a TA the subsequent semester.

And my former TA for 342 is now lecturing for 210.

Both pretty bad at teaching
You don't need to be a PhD candidate to be a sessional instructor.
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You don't need to be a PhD candidate to be a sessional instructor.
What are the requirements then? Im pretty sure they wont allow a person who is only doing their masters because a sessional instructor, at least from ALL the sessional instructors I have known or heard of, all have been a minimum of a PhD candidate.
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Minimum is having a Master's degree. No requirements to be a candidate for a PhD.

Most business sessional instructors don't have and don't ever plan to pursue a PhD. They usually have real jobs and teach for shits and giggles or are doing it because they got laid off. Heck, most business graduate students don't even want to TA. That's why a lot of them are 4th year students.

Departments like economics on the other hand, well, they have plenty of poor graduate students who are more than willing to "teach" for money and being a sessional instructor pays a little more than being a TA, given the "same workload".

I believe the requirements to being a TA and a sessional instructor are the same throughout all departments.

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