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twitchyzero 08-14-2009 11:57 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...w/011D9256.jpg
is that a J7?

Senna4ever 08-14-2009 11:59 PM

No it's an F-16, not a MiG.

keitaro 08-15-2009 12:36 AM

Senna what settings were you using for shooting? Where you locked in to Tv and used EC or where you going manual?

Senna4ever 08-15-2009 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by keitaro (Post 6547924)
Senna what settings were you using for shooting? Where you locked in to Tv and used EC or where you going manual?

For the most part, I would shoot the jets using aperture priority at f8, for the propeller planes, shutter priority at 1/125sec~1/250sec to blur the propellers. As the 1DsmkIII was so bad with AE, I ended up shooting manually for the most part.

jlo mein 08-15-2009 05:03 AM

So I guess no one looked at the static displays to see if they had the EA-6B Prowler and C-17 Globemaster? May not be able to see the Prowler in a couple years since the US Navy is phasing them out.

Prowler
http://corrdefense.nace.org/CorrDefe...speedbrake.jpg

Globemaster
http://www.aviationearth.com/Images/C-17_4.jpg

Soundy 08-15-2009 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 6546233)
That's definitely an F-15. The notches on the horizontal tails are pretty distinct!

Another easy way to tell the difference between and F-15 and F-18, especially in head- or tail-on shots: the F-15's vertical stabilizers are actually vertical, while the F-18's angle outward at the top.

Solo_D33A 08-15-2009 10:13 PM

I went this year, the Globemaster's off limits... :( I didn't bother to see the inside of any other.

peazs 08-23-2009 12:27 AM

A bit late but better than nothing! :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2552/...6af4be1e03.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3434/...de0a64d7fc.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2564/...3282739ac9.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2608/...abc52a3564.jpg

keitaro 08-23-2009 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6547931)
For the most part, I would shoot the jets using aperture priority at f8, for the propeller planes, shutter priority at 1/125sec~1/250sec to blur the propellers. As the 1DsmkIII was so bad with AE, I ended up shooting manually for the most part.

wow i am surprised you used aperture priority for shooting jets. Do you find that there are better results compared to shooting in shutter priority set at 1/1000sec?

Senna4ever 08-23-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by keitaro (Post 6559821)
wow i am surprised you used aperture priority for shooting jets. Do you find that there are better results compared to shooting in shutter priority set at 1/1000sec?

Why are you surprised? For jets you just need to set a certain depth of field to keep the plane in focus. Let the camera set the shutter speed. If you shoot on shutter priority set at 1/1000sec, it was so bright that day, that your aperture could go down to f22 or f27, which would make your image less sharp due to diffraction. F5.6 ~ f11 is the sweet spot of any lens - that's where it is the sharpest. Unless I need the depth of field, I never shoot anything at over f16.

Soundy 08-23-2009 10:10 AM

With objects moving that fast, you really want to get the most DOF you can, and the only way to assure that is to lock down your aperture - you don't want it dropping if the scene darkens and leaving your plane out of focus.

I found when shooting stock cars, I was actually better off metering off the pavement (a medium grey) and then locking my exposure in manual... there was so much variation in the brightness of the colors of the cars, with everything from all-black to all-white and three dozen levels in between, that my exposure was swinging 2-3 stops through the course of a race... I'd end up with white cars looking grey on a really dark field, and black cars looking grey and speed-smeared on a washed-out field.

I don't imagine planes are much different.

Soundy 08-23-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6559855)
Why are you surprised? For jets you just need to set a certain depth of field to keep the plane in focus. Let the camera set the shutter speed. If you shoot on shutter priority set at 1/1000sec, it was so bright that day, that your aperture could go down to f22 or f27, which would make your image less sharp due to diffraction. F5.6 ~ f11 is the sweet spot of any lens - that's where it is the sharpest. Unless I need the depth of field, I never shoot anything at over f16.

Seems to me "two stops down from wide open" has traditionally been the rule-of-thumb for most lenses' sharpest aperture.

Senna4ever 08-23-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6559860)
Seems to me "two stops down from wide open" has traditionally been the rule-of-thumb for most lenses' sharpest aperture.

...which is why I wrote f5.6 ~ f11, which would be the sweet spot for most lenses...unless you have a f0.95 or f1.4 lens, in which case f2~f2.8 would the sweet spot. :D

keitaro 08-23-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6559855)
Why are you surprised? For jets you just need to set a certain depth of field to keep the plane in focus. Let the camera set the shutter speed. If you shoot on shutter priority set at 1/1000sec, it was so bright that day, that your aperture could go down to f22 or f27, which would make your image less sharp due to diffraction. F5.6 ~ f11 is the sweet spot of any lens - that's where it is the sharpest. Unless I need the depth of field, I never shoot anything at over f16.

I'll have to try that next year. Thanks!


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