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08-05-2009, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ASG111  yeah, so the metro crowed will have to skytrian to waterfront, then take 26 mins to go to richmond centre.. so maybe 1 hour total still?
i thought it would connect, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu | B-Line to Cambie @ Broadway? Don't know how long it is if you do it that way.
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08-05-2009, 01:09 AM
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At least these trains aren't as ugly as the previous skytrain.
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So are these trains controlled by an actual human or are they controlled from a separate control center like the skytrain?
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Originally Posted by toyota86 the guys over at lambo vancouver said there are 60-70 pre-orders already. don't quote me though. | | |
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08-05-2009, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by The_AK At least these trains aren't as ugly as the previous skytrain.
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So are these trains controlled by an actual human or are they controlled from a separate control center like the skytrain? | control center like skytrain. overhead would be too much and meaningless for a train operator
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08-05-2009, 01:32 AM
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#29 | | RS controls my life!
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air con in these ones?
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08-05-2009, 02:08 AM
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#30 | | Ask me about how I answered the question "How fat is TOO fat?"
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Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe control center like skytrain. overhead would be too much and meaningless for a train operator | then i guess its safe to say Terrurstz aren't gonna hijack our skytrains and crash them into the airport
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08-05-2009, 07:24 AM
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#31 | | ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
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Originally Posted by ASG111 air con in these ones? | Yes!
This one and the old newer ones have it.
It is only the old ass block shaped ones that do not have aircon and that blasts heat year round.
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08-05-2009, 07:29 AM
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#32 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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I'm stoked for this opening. I'm a lover of all rapid and mass transit.
One thing I don't understand and agree with the RS crowd is how come they didn't build a station that connects straight to the Expo / Millennium line.
It kinda seems counter intuitive that you have to go to waterfront first and then backtrack on the Expo line to go to Vancouver East / Burnaby / Surrey area. I can understand the waterfront station as it feeds into North Vancouver and into Mission for the west coast express
What they should have done was built the current waterfront station and also expand the Granville station into a hub that meets with the Canada line
There are pros and con's I guess - cause it would be a triple bottle neck for the Granville station - but still any other metro city in the world would have the station to be the closest / less travel distance if possible. You shouldn't have to travel further and then backtrack - seems like a waste of time
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08-05-2009, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sh0n I'm stoked for this opening. I'm a lover of all rapid and mass transit.
One thing I don't understand and agree with the RS crowd is how come they didn't build a station that connects straight to the Expo / Millennium line.
It kinda seems counter intuitive that you have to go to waterfront first and then backtrack on the Expo line to go to Vancouver East / Burnaby / Surrey area. I can understand the waterfront station as it feeds into North Vancouver and into Mission for the west coast express
What they should have done was built the current waterfront station and also expand the Granville station into a hub that meets with the Canada line
There are pros and con's I guess - cause it would be a triple bottle neck for the Granville station - but still any other metro city in the world would have the station to be the closest / less travel distance if possible. You shouldn't have to travel further and then backtrack - seems like a waste of time | Bingo!
They should have added connections from Broadway and another from Edmonds. That would be the most efficient but it would also cause the most havoc to build. It would also make Broadway into a true hub and it could simply just add it to the millennium line.
Since it the millennium line really only goes to VCC, now it COULD go to the airport as well as possibly along broadway to UBC.
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08-05-2009, 08:00 AM
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#34 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by sh0n One thing I don't understand and agree with the RS crowd is how come they didn't build a station that connects straight to the Expo / Millennium line.
It kinda seems counter intuitive that you have to go to waterfront first and then backtrack on the Expo line to go to Vancouver East / Burnaby / Surrey area. I can understand the waterfront station as it feeds into North Vancouver and into Mission for the west coast express
What they should have done was built the current waterfront station and also expand the Granville station into a hub that meets with the Canada line | Pacific Centre will act as a semi-hub between the Canada Line and Expo Line. You can walk underground between the two lines through the mall. Obviously, Translink had to cut costs somewhere because a sensible solution would have cost more.
Instead of extending the Millenium Line all the way to UBC, Translink should just focus on getting it to Cambie/Broadway. If the Evergreen Line is built, this would give people in East Van, Burnaby, and the Tri-Cities a rapid connection to the Airport. Population growth is mainly to the east of Vancouver anyway. But, other than a deep tunnel, I don't know where else they would lay down the tracks beyond VCC.
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08-05-2009, 08:28 AM
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#35 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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they seriously need to consider installing screen doors...it's fucking unsafe without them  | |
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08-05-2009, 08:43 AM
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#36 | | Willing to sell a family member for a few minutes on RS
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So if you're coming from surrey, you have to go to waterfront then get onto another skytrain that goes to the airport?
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08-05-2009, 09:51 AM
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#37 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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Originally Posted by hotjoint So if you're coming from surrey, you have to go to waterfront then get onto another skytrain that goes to the airport? | Yes
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08-05-2009, 10:17 AM
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#38 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by asian_XL they seriously need to consider installing screen doors...it's fucking unsafe without them | Installing these throughout the system would be a waste of money, IMHO. It's not like we're having people fall onto the tracks every day. The accidents that have occured have been people who have chosen to jump. We don't have the passenger volumes like HK, Tokyo, etc. to justfiy these.
At most, we would have them at select stations like Broadway and Metrotown.
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08-05-2009, 10:19 AM
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08-05-2009, 10:35 AM
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#40 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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Originally Posted by hotjoint So if you're coming from surrey, you have to go to waterfront then get onto another skytrain that goes to the airport? | yes canada line is a seperate station/platform inside waterfront hub Quote:
Originally Posted by Tapioca Installing these throughout the system would be a waste of money, IMHO. It's not like we're having people fall onto the tracks every day. The accidents that have occured have been people who have chosen to jump. We don't have the passenger volumes like HK, Tokyo, etc. to justfiy these.
At most, we would have them at select stations like Broadway and Metrotown. | not possible on existing lines because the mk1 (box style cars) have doors in different locations and they are going to refurbish them for use til 2030. Plus the new cars mk2, are currently using the A-B config but planning to add a middle car so A-C-B, doors would limit any expansion. Canada Line it is possible however because the built it cheap and no room for expansion beyond 50m. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tapioca Pacific Centre will act as a semi-hub between the Canada Line and Expo Line. You can walk underground between the two lines through the mall. Obviously, Translink had to cut costs somewhere because a sensible solution would have cost more.
Instead of extending the Millenium Line all the way to UBC, Translink should just focus on getting it to Cambie/Broadway. If the Evergreen Line is built, this would give people in East Van, Burnaby, and the Tri-Cities a rapid connection to the Airport. Population growth is mainly to the east of Vancouver anyway. But, other than a deep tunnel, I don't know where else they would lay down the tracks beyond VCC. | any millennium line extension is 10years down the road, westside treehugers and anti anything think that skytrain is terrible and want the government to build LIGHT RAIL on broadway (streetcar, SF Muni) which will take 2 lanes from broadway and be limited to traffic law 50km/h, traffic lights. TERRIBLE
-TURNSTILES (everystation) and distance based smartcard are going in NEXT YEAR
- Existing renos are a go for Main Street and Metrotown are in for a drastic change after olympics including platform extensions, and new bus loop in metros case.
- SURREY expansion for expo line is a go after evergreen starts contruction
- Evergreen is a go for real SKYTRAIN after consultation and the sorts is done
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08-05-2009, 12:19 PM
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#41 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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who are u Tgill? do u work for protrans
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08-05-2009, 12:25 PM
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#42 | | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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Originally Posted by tgill just so you guys know canada line is operated by private contractor PROTRANSIT (for 30 years) who are paid by translink based on performance.
The trains are traditional rail using physical brakes and slower accelerations, skytrain has no motors and uses magnets to move and brake. | i didnt know that, that sucks
they should add another route connecting the richmond station to New West or Surrey and bring the skytrain out to maple ridge  | |
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08-05-2009, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed i love how everbody who is able has their hand out asking/demanding more money saying how there isn't enough for them to operate... yet its been operating fine for decades and decades off of taxes
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Originally Posted by StylinRed i didnt know that, that sucks
they should add another route connecting the richmond station to New West or Surrey and bring the skytrain out to maple ridge |
OH THE FUCKING IRONY
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08-05-2009, 01:16 PM
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#44 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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any millennium line extension is 10years down the road, westside treehugers and anti anything think that skytrain is terrible and want the government to build LIGHT RAIL on broadway (streetcar, SF Muni) which will take 2 lanes from broadway and be limited to traffic law 50km/h, traffic lights. TERRIBLE
| Light Rail is a dead end unless streets are constructed with a dedicated centre lane from the start. Quote:
-TURNSTILES (everystation) and distance based smartcard are going in NEXT YEAR
- Existing renos are a go for Main Street and Metrotown are in for a drastic change after olympics including platform extensions, and new bus loop in metros case.
| Turnstiles and a distance-based SmartCard are long overdue, though I can see opposition from those who travel long distances and will end up paying more per trip.
I use the system on a daily basis and ideally, I think the platforms at Metrotown and Broadway should be twinned. There is way too much traffic on the centre platform for both stations. It would probably cost several million dollars to do this though.
BTW, the new Mark II cars are pretty nice. Lit station maps and less seating for more standees. Hopefully we'll see Translink use double cars for all runs soon.
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08-05-2009, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tgill skytrain has no motors and uses magnets to move and brake. | I'm a nitpicker...
They do have a motor, called a linear induction motor... It's like a regular AC motor with its stator rolled flat.
This is different in operation to "mag lev" trains.
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08-05-2009, 01:54 PM
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08-05-2009, 02:06 PM
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#47 | | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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Originally Posted by RFlush OH THE FUCKING IRONY | not really at all
the funding/money earned by these outlets should be enough for operating costs and to save for new projects
you think they're just breaking even? puh lease
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08-05-2009, 02:57 PM
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#48 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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Originally Posted by brianau9 who are u tGill? do u work for protrans | I cant say much more than I work for the MoT  | |
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08-05-2009, 03:04 PM
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#49 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by hotjoint So if you're coming from surrey, you have to go to waterfront then get onto another skytrain that goes to the airport? | get off at broadway station then take 99 b-line to the city hall station. b-lines run every 3-5min during peak hours
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08-05-2009, 03:09 PM
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#50 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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Originally Posted by StylinRed not really at all
the funding/money earned by these outlets should be enough for operating costs and to save for new projects
you think they're just breaking even? puh lease | in Boston they have a state run transportation agency, recieves 1% of 5% state TAX = 8 billion dollars in debt.
translink legally cannot run a deficit, would you like them to grow money trees?
CANADA LINe, new skytrain lines, ontop of that hundreds of new buses, major station renovations, and new MK2 bombardier trains. + they manage the roads, GOLDEN EARS BRIDGE?, coast meridian overpass bridge.
maybe translink should just not build the new pattullo bridge? if the federal and provincial government fully funded capital expenditures (like they did with expo and millennium lines) translink wouldn't need another 400 million
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