REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Automotive Chat > Police Forum

Police Forum Police Head Mod: Skidmark
Questions & info about the Motor Vehicle Act. Mature discussion only.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-05-2009, 10:06 AM   #1
NEWBIE ACCOUNT!
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Victoria
Posts: 17
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Excessive speeding

Just wondering what would the ticket/penalty be for going 200km/h in a 110km/h for someone with a Class 5 license and a clean driving record. I was discussing it with a buddy and he thought there's a $10,000 fine in BC for going 50 over.

Also, how do the scales work for going (??) over the limit.
Excessive speed is 30 over? Is there a ticket for 90 over or does it max out at some point.

Thanks!
Advertisement
HavoK041 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2009, 11:19 AM   #2
RS Peace Officer
 
zulutango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,850
Thanked 1,623 Times in 678 Posts
Speeding tickets...1-20 kms over = $138, 21-40 over = $196, 41-60 kms over = $368 and more than 61 k over the limit gets a $483 ticket....but there are other street racing and Criminal Code options, depending on the circumstances involved. They involve vehicle seizures, DL suspensions, huge fines and/or a Criminal Record.
zulutango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2009, 11:20 AM   #3
RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
 
Supafly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: VanCity/HCMC/HK
Posts: 4,760
Thanked 694 Times in 235 Posts
^^ beat me to it.

edited.
__________________
"Just because any car nut can tell you every possible performance specification of a Ferrari doesn't mean he can drive. Most of these people live in places where they've never even seen a Ferrari, much less ever owned one themselves."
Supafly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2009, 12:11 PM   #4
VLS Head Mod
 
saucywoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: E Van
Posts: 7,996
Thanked 896 Times in 392 Posts
sorry if this has been covered this just got me thinking because I was caught excessive speeding and the cop was nice enough to give me the lowest fine. I did a search awhile ago and didn't find anything. Anyhow I got my first speeding ticket back in May and understand I get 3 points for speeding again a highway sign section 146(3) but what I'm curious about is this http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing...riables._frag_ am I correct in thinking that other than the $138 fine that I am not being charged anything additional for the 3 points and the only way you pay for any points is if you have 4 or over? tia
__________________
Quote:
Originally posted by ThE ReMiX
---------------------
REMEMBER:-->RS is a place for car enthusiasts to come and get together because of their intrest and love for cars. Hating is not an option-take your immaturity elsewhere!


----///-\\\----Put This
---|||---|||---On Your
---|||---|||---profile If
---|||---|||---You Know
----\\\-///----Someone
-----\\///-----Who has died
------///\-----Of
-----///\\\----Cancer
----///--\\\-----Or whom maybe suffering from it
saucywoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 03:03 PM   #5
NEWBIE ACCOUNT!
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Victoria
Posts: 17
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by zulutango View Post
Speeding tickets...1-20 kms over = $138, 21-40 over = $196, 41-60 kms over = $368 and more than 61 k over the limit gets a $483 ticket....but there are other street racing and Criminal Code options, depending on the circumstances involved. They involve vehicle seizures, DL suspensions, huge fines and/or a Criminal Record.
So what kind of tickets are typically handed out to guys who get caught going 180+ in broad daylight on the highway up North of Nanaimo where the limit is 110 and there's those 1-2km straightaways?
HavoK041 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 03:22 PM   #6
RS Peace Officer
 
zulutango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,850
Thanked 1,623 Times in 678 Posts
As I said, it would depend on the circumstances. At the very least a $483 ticket. The higest speed I charged for was 232 in a 110. That was an excessive and a due care ticket and a letter to the Supt. MV Branch which got him a couple year prohib...had several similar VTs on his record.
zulutango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 03:59 PM   #7
I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
 
Soundy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Abbotstan
Posts: 20,730
Thanked 12,144 Times in 3,366 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by zulutango View Post
As I said, it would depend on the circumstances. At the very least a $483 ticket. The higest speed I charged for was 232 in a 110. That was an excessive and a due care ticket and a letter to the Supt. MV Branch which got him a couple year prohib...had several similar VTs on his record.
Were his initials JVD??
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzira View Post
Does anyone know how many to a signature?
..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianrietta View Post
Not a sebberry post goes by where I don't frown and think to myself "so..?"
Soundy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 04:29 PM   #8
RS Peace Officer
 
zulutango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,850
Thanked 1,623 Times in 678 Posts
It was a few years back. All I can say is that he was NOT a young rider...and he well knew he shouldn't have been riding in heavy traffic just a few kms south of Courtenay. He was going so fast he didn't even know I was on the road. Caught up with him on an exit ramp where he had nowhere to go & was boxed in by traffic. Was just an old idiot from the general Parksville area. Wrong speed, wrong place, wrong time and wrong attitude. Hopehe never taught any of his kids to ride.
zulutango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 04:45 PM   #9
Need my Daily Fix of RS
 
wnderinguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Nanaimo B.C.
Posts: 248
Thanked 21 Times in 9 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by HavoK041 View Post
So what kind of tickets are typically handed out to guys who get caught going 180+ in broad daylight on the highway up North of Nanaimo where the limit is 110 and there's those 1-2km straightaways?
I don't actually see many (if any) excessive speeders along that route,quite surprising really.
wnderinguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 05:05 PM   #10
I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
 
Soundy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Abbotstan
Posts: 20,730
Thanked 12,144 Times in 3,366 Posts
Nice. I was just thinking - tongue-in-cheek, of course - of a certain former Solicitor General...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzira View Post
Does anyone know how many to a signature?
..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianrietta View Post
Not a sebberry post goes by where I don't frown and think to myself "so..?"
Soundy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 07:32 PM   #11
RS Peace Officer
 
zulutango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,850
Thanked 1,623 Times in 678 Posts
You mean a certain visible minority Pol with connectrions up a certain ski hill? He met us a number of times when we were working and he was not.

If you don't see many excessive speeders it's because you are not there at the right times. In ski season it's jato-assisted SUVs and Bimmers with atitudes higher than their speeds. All from Victoria or LMD, heading to ski at speeds an average of a minimum of 50-60k over the limit. Then sportbikes in the 220-300+ range...usually in groups.
zulutango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 09:42 PM   #12
Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
 
underscore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kel-pwn-a
Posts: 11,975
Thanked 4,964 Times in 2,172 Posts
^ sounds like if you wanna get to go fast and not get tickets, it'd be wise to work with you :-P
__________________
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S // 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC FOR SALE // 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD

Quote:
Originally Posted by maksimizer View Post
half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevYouUp View Post
reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
Quote:
Originally Posted by Good_KarMa View Post
OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
underscore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2009, 12:24 AM   #13
Everyone wants a piece of R S...
 
chris_89T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 373
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by zulutango View Post
Speeding tickets...1-20 kms over = $138, 21-40 over = $196, 41-60 kms over = $368 and more than 61 k over the limit gets a $483 ticket....but there are other street racing and Criminal Code options, depending on the circumstances involved. They involve vehicle seizures, DL suspensions, huge fines and/or a Criminal Record.
I have a question. Have you personally given anyone a ticket for going less than 5 over the speed limit? Or do you know any officers who have given tickets for lets say 54 in a 50 zone? It seems totally ridiculous, but at the same time, the bottom line is, you are speeding so i guess it makes sense.
__________________
ride/drive best of both worlds.
chris_89T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2009, 07:08 AM   #14
RS Peace Officer
 
zulutango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,850
Thanked 1,623 Times in 678 Posts
In all my time ticket writing in uniform I have never, nor ever worked with anyone, nor have ever heard of anyone writing a VT for 5 k over the limit...except when it was a spede to fastfor conditions...eg snow storm, fog etc. Then they should not have even been going the posted limit.

People who say they get a 5km ticket are incorrect...what happens often is that their speed is recorded before they know it. They then see the Cops, slam on the brakes & look at the speedo...now seeing their slowed down speed. Some are also incorrect about the speed zones, many think that it is OK to do 10 over, so they do, and add 5 to that. Now they're 15 over but think they are "5k over". Others just outright lie about their speed. I have had information on VT's I wrote come back to me from other sources and they are telling lies to save face with their friends...now they can slam the idiot Cops who are not out catching real criminals instead of harassing innocent drivers who were only going 5 k over the limit. The last group of speeders are those who are genuinely mistaken...they really believed they were not speeding and thought they were within the limit. The form a very small percentage.

There are so many speeding vehicles out there, why would Cops bother with 5km over charges when there are soooooo many doing 20-30+ over the limit. Yes 1 km over the posted limit is speeding but I would not waste my credibility with a JP or Judge to charge somebody with a 5k ticket...most other Police I know feel the same.

Last edited by zulutango; 08-09-2009 at 08:06 AM.
zulutango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2009, 07:26 AM   #15
Retired Traffic Cop
 
skidmark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nanoose Bay, BC
Posts: 9,023
Thanked 115 Times in 66 Posts
And when you ask those "only 5 over" people some questions to clarify, you often find that they were doing 5 over the 10 over that police don't bother you for.
__________________
Have you ever met anyone that would admit to being less than a better than average driver ??

Learn more at DriveSmartBC
skidmark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2009, 10:43 AM   #16
RS Peace Officer
 
zulutango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,850
Thanked 1,623 Times in 678 Posts
Wish the wimpy Photo Radar rules of engagement where they said that you could speed 10 over the limit and not get tagged, were never part of the game plan. Most drivers treated this an an excuse to do exactly what Skidmark said above....same thing when they bump speed limits...the speeders just take 10 above the posted limit, whatever it is, as their benchmark for the new limit and then add at least 10 k above that.
80 k zones where speeders are doing 95-105, get bumped to 90... speeders then start doing 105-115. Skidmark and I both saw that happen on the Bowser 4 lane...and even more so north of Sayward on the Island.
zulutango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2009, 11:42 AM   #17
Everyone wants a piece of R S...
 
chris_89T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 373
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
I appreciate the replies! Id imagine a lot of people lie to try cover their own ass! Personally, if i see a cop around, if im not already doing the speed limit or 5kmh over, i will slow down. Seems like once i got my class 5, a year ago, the whole speeding thing seemed like such a stupid idea. This car likes to attract attention from the popo anyways so doing the speed limit is a must!
__________________
ride/drive best of both worlds.
chris_89T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2009, 03:09 PM   #18
Rs has made me the woman i am today!
 
ws6ta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: ?
Posts: 4,338
Thanked 880 Times in 153 Posts
if a cop is doing 80 in a 60 and your right behind him (digital reading in the bentley was saying 81-83 km/h) what are the odds of me getting pulled over and a ticket for speeding? I know I have had an officer behind me that told me he put his motorcycle @ 100 km/h and I was pulling away on him so he gave me a 368 ticket so does it work when the cop is infront of you and your behind? he was at 80 and so was I since the gap behind his car and my car weren't getting any larger. what are the odds of getting a ticket like this? He didn't pull me over but I saw him looking at me through his mirror so after following for a few mins I made a right turn at an intersection as he went through it lol.
ws6ta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2009, 04:07 PM   #19
I subscribe to Revscene
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Victoria
Posts: 1,977
Thanked 185 Times in 129 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_89T View Post
I have a question. Have you personally given anyone a ticket for going less than 5 over the speed limit? Or do you know any officers who have given tickets for lets say 54 in a 50 zone? It seems totally ridiculous, but at the same time, the bottom line is, you are speeding so i guess it makes sense.
I have seen it happen. I was following a minivan who was doing about 7 over the limit who was waved over at a speed trap.
sebberry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2009, 11:33 AM   #20
NOOB, Not Quite a Regular!
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Abbotsford
Posts: 29
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ws6ta View Post
if a cop is doing 80 in a 60 and your right behind him (digital reading in the bentley was saying 81-83 km/h) what are the odds of me getting pulled over and a ticket for speeding? I know I have had an officer behind me that told me he put his motorcycle @ 100 km/h and I was pulling away on him so he gave me a 368 ticket so does it work when the cop is infront of you and your behind? he was at 80 and so was I since the gap behind his car and my car weren't getting any larger. what are the odds of getting a ticket like this? He didn't pull me over but I saw him looking at me through his mirror so after following for a few mins I made a right turn at an intersection as he went through it lol.
Coming out of Vancouver on the highway to Burnaby I was doing just that, or well... speeding and then used the HOV lane to pass some work van. The officer then pulled over to the shoulder and let me past whilst I was 2 cars behind him. So I go past, he throws on the lights before he even moves out of the shoulder and im in there and stopped. He was nice enough to give me a warning...apparenlty with the HOV lane thing, the speeding, the not using my turn signal, and passing on a solid line I could have had a pretty bad day...nice guy though.
.... stayed out of the HOV lane since best not to push your luck.


--> Id imagine they would only do that if you were accumulated a fair amount of infractions at once... like I did. I doubt hes going to drop back and pull you over though for just staying in the same lane following a safe distance behind him... Never know though, hopefully if it happens you'll get a warning.
xplodngKeys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2009, 11:09 PM   #21
e-thugger*
 
netfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 2,523
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
All my speeding tickets were doing 15-20 over the limit. I usually do 10 over and have no problems, even with police tailing me to run my plate. I've deserved every speeding ticket, and whenever I pass the 10k "safety mark" I know it could very well mean another suspended license... And it has, three times.
__________________
Powered by alcohol rage.
96 Lincoln Towncar
92 Civic B16A (parted)
89 CRX D16Y7 swapped
netfreak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2009, 11:31 PM   #22
I subscribe to Revscene
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Victoria
Posts: 1,977
Thanked 185 Times in 129 Posts
Quote:
I know it could very well mean another suspended license... And it has, three times.
Proof that speed enforcement keeps bad drivers off the road.. again and again and again...
sebberry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2009, 12:04 AM   #23
e-thugger*
 
netfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 2,523
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebberry View Post
Proof that speed enforcement keeps bad drivers off the road.. again and again and again...
I'll place a bet that I could avoid a collision a significantly higher chance than your average driver. Unless you legitimately have never gone beyond the posted speed limit, you are in no place to comment on my driving choices. Perhaps try reading my post again, specifically where I mention how my infractions have been within 15-20 over the posted limit (5-10 over the flow of traffic). I'm on an N which means one ticket and I'm done.
__________________
Powered by alcohol rage.
96 Lincoln Towncar
92 Civic B16A (parted)
89 CRX D16Y7 swapped
netfreak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2009, 04:43 PM   #24
Banned (BBM)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 16,146
Thanked 627 Times in 368 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by netfreak View Post
All my speeding tickets were doing 15-20 over the limit. I usually do 10 over and have no problems, even with police tailing me to run my plate. I've deserved every speeding ticket, and whenever I pass the 10k "safety mark" I know it could very well mean another suspended license... And it has, three times.
wow u are the king dude
Mugen EvOlutioN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2009, 04:59 PM   #25
Revscene.net has a homepage?!
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,242
Thanked 486 Times in 177 Posts
what about passing? sometimes when im driving 90 on the highway i'd want to pass someone in front of me.

is 110-115 acceptable? just to pass someone, then cut back in and slow down. sucks to get busted while passing
jackmeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net