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!SG 08-13-2009 03:07 PM

How do you get those crisp clear night shots?
 
What settings are you using, and lenses to get those crisp clear night shots of the sky.

i tried last night just for kicks, only to have the pictures turn out blurry. was mounted on a tripod, pretty sturdy i think.

1) set on time delay so even my hands dont make any movements on the camera
2) set to F minimal, ok i was using a telescoping lens (should have brought another lens) but was set to F3.5
3) 8, 15, 20, 30 second exposure
4) iso 400, 800, 1600

pictures came out bright, but not very crisp.

im not looking for any pro shots, but heck, something better than a point n shoot ill be happy with


thanx for any input from u pro's.

!MiKrofT 08-13-2009 03:54 PM

No need to use those high ISO values.

Here's a shot with tripod. ISO100-200 4secs I don't remember exactly. I guess just be aware of where the camera is focusing on.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zmD-A9xCUHk/Sl...00/pics-10.jpg

Senna4ever 08-13-2009 05:16 PM

^^^^ That's pretty soft/blurry too.

You need to shoot at ISO 100 or 200, depending on you sensor's base ISO, shoot at f8 or f11, as anything f16 and over can cause your image to get soft due to diffraction.

Also turn OFF any image stabilization, as it can cause a feedback loop that will actually increase blur when on a tripod.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...I/DSC04971.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/PICT3027.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/PICT9465.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/PICT2078.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../yaletown3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...I/DSC01873.jpg

lol FAIL 08-13-2009 05:46 PM

im fairly new as well, second time around i used manual focus and had much better results for skyline shots from stanley park. autofocus i guess didnt know what to focus on.

on side note lower aperture (fshot) means more sharp? or less sharp?

WHat happens if you put the aperture super low vs super high. not just f8-f11

f4 for example?

TOPEC 08-13-2009 06:03 PM

the lower the F number, the less infocus the pictures will turn out.

lilaznviper 08-13-2009 07:51 PM

for night shots i learnt that use a higher f number since you are using a longer shutter speed and dont want too much light into camera as it will couse the picture to be way too bright

!MiKrofT 08-13-2009 09:52 PM

Yeah that was from my first ever attempt at night shot with dslr after I turned off IS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6545854)
^^^^ That's pretty soft/blurry too.

You need to shoot at ISO 100 or 200, depending on you sensor's base ISO, shoot at f8 or f11, as anything f16 and over can cause your image to get soft due to diffraction.

Also turn OFF any image stabilization, as it can cause a feedback loop that will actually increase blur when on a tripod.


Preemo 08-14-2009 02:46 PM

What MP rating are your cameras to achieve those crisp shots?

sonick 08-14-2009 03:04 PM

^ MP has little to do with how 'crisp' these pictures are. I'll let the pros answer why.

!Aznboi128 08-14-2009 07:09 PM

you need a million dollar camera!

:p

just look at Senna4ever he's l337 !

1exotic 08-14-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6545854)
^^^^ That's pretty soft/blurry too.

You need to shoot at ISO 100 or 200, depending on you sensor's base ISO, shoot at f8 or f11, as anything f16 and over can cause your image to get soft due to diffraction.

Also turn OFF any image stabilization, as it can cause a feedback loop that will actually increase blur when on a tripod.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...I/DSC04971.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/PICT3027.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/PICT9465.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/PICT2078.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../yaletown3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...I/DSC01873.jpg

wow those are some killer night shots, especially the one from stanley park with the moon.

staysupreme 08-19-2009 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6545854)
^^^^ That's pretty soft/blurry too.

You need to shoot at ISO 100 or 200, depending on you sensor's base ISO, shoot at f8 or f11, as anything f16 and over can cause your image to get soft due to diffraction.

Also turn OFF any image stabilization, as it can cause a feedback loop that will actually increase blur when on a tripod.

Good tips and great shots man!
thanks!!

Speed2K 08-19-2009 01:28 PM

Awesome shots! I'm a newbie too I'll remember this next time I am shooting at night!

g35x 08-20-2009 01:41 PM

High F-Stop and always always carry a tripod...

tallshorty 08-22-2009 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g35x (Post 6556410)
High F-Stop and always always carry a tripod...

UNLESS you have the Canon 17-55mm F2.8 IS Lens. :thumbsup: I don't remember the last time I used a tripod for night photography after I got that lens unless I wanted to be in the photo. The photos below were all taken handheld at ISO 400-800 at F2.8.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2555/...23c8319b3c.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2421/...7792a7200b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/...31cc37543c.jpg

tallshorty 08-22-2009 06:14 PM

Also a lot of the night photos that "pop" are because there were some post-processing done in photoshop.

e.g. increasing saturation, contrast, increasing EV (if you shoot raw), resharpening, etc...

For instance, the Stanely park photo by Senna4ever is actually two photos in one. He must have taken the moon at a lower exposure setting than the rest of the photo in order to get the detail in the moon and then combined the two photos. There is no way he could've capture the moon like that in one shot. Also, correct me if i'm wrong, the third to last photo and the last photo looks like they are HDR images?

I also won't recommend going past 800 ISO (on my 40D at least..higher if you have the 5D) to minimize noise

keitaro 08-22-2009 08:58 PM

I basically shoot with what senna mentioned. Actually to get sharp images even in daylight i shoot between f/8-16.

I never knew having IS on at night can decrease image quality. I'll be sure to turn it off next time.

ddr 08-22-2009 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallshorty (Post 6559247)
Also a lot of the night photos that "pop" are because there were some post-processing done in photoshop.

e.g. increasing saturation, contrast, increasing EV (if you shoot raw), resharpening, etc...

For instance, the Stanely park photo by Senna4ever is actually two photos in one. He must have taken the moon at a lower exposure setting than the rest of the photo in order to get the detail in the moon and then combined the two photos. There is no way he could've capture the moon like that in one shot. Also, correct me if i'm wrong, the third to last photo and the last photo looks like they are HDR images?

I also won't recommend going past 800 ISO (on my 40D at least..higher if you have the 5D) to minimize noise

could he just have used a ND filter?

tallshorty 08-22-2009 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonone (Post 6559415)
could he just have used a ND filter?

that's possible...i have not had any experience with ND filters before so I don't know if it can lead to that kind of exposure. If it indeed can do that, I'm getting myself some ND filters!

tallshorty 08-22-2009 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keitaro (Post 6559391)
I basically shoot with what senna mentioned. Actually to get sharp images even in daylight i shoot between f/8-16.

I never knew having IS on at night can decrease image quality. I'll be sure to turn it off next time.

I guess that depends on what effect you are going for, meaning if you want a large DOF and everything in focus. For most lenses though, the sharpest point is usually around F/5.6.

The IS is only detrimental if you have it on while using a tripod. If you are hand-holding it, that's what the IS is for.

Senna4ever 08-22-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallshorty (Post 6559243)
UNLESS you have the Canon 17-55mm F2.8 IS Lens. :thumbsup: I don't remember the last time I used a tripod for night photography after I got that lens unless I wanted to be in the photo. The photos below were all taken handheld at ISO 400-800 at F2.8.

Well, yes and no. Using a smaller aperture will give your pointillistic highlights a star-shaped characteristic, and your image will be sharper with a wider depth of field.

Senna4ever 08-22-2009 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallshorty (Post 6559247)
For instance, the Stanely park photo by Senna4ever is actually two photos in one. He must have taken the moon at a lower exposure setting than the rest of the photo in order to get the detail in the moon and then combined the two photos. There is no way he could've capture the moon like that in one shot. Also, correct me if i'm wrong, the third to last photo and the last photo looks like they are HDR images?

I also won't recommend going past 800 ISO (on my 40D at least..higher if you have the 5D) to minimize noise

You're correct with the moon shot. It's a composite. The other two are most certainly not HDR...why would you think they're HDR?

For night photography, as a general rule, set your ISO to your camera's base ISO, shoot around f5.6-f11 for best results....unless you have the 24mm f1.4. :p

tallshorty 08-22-2009 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6559497)
You're correct with the moon shot. It's a composite. The other two are most certainly not HDR...why would you think they're HDR?

For night photography, as a general rule, set your ISO to your camera's base ISO, shoot around f5.6-f11 for best results....unless you have the 24mm f1.4. :p

I don't know...they looked kind of HDR-like to me...

Senna4ever 08-22-2009 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallshorty (Post 6559464)
that's possible...i have not had any experience with ND filters before so I don't know if it can lead to that kind of exposure. If it indeed can do that, I'm getting myself some ND filters!

A graduated neutral density filter *may* do the trick, but generally, those types of shots are done with two or more images.

tallshorty 08-22-2009 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6559513)
A graduated neutral density filter *may* do the trick, but generally, those types of shots are done with two or more images.

speaking of graduated ND filters....i think i want to buy one...where is a good place to get it? (i.e. cheap :)


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