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AsBannedAsItGets 08-20-2009 02:29 PM

200k after taxes what is take home?
 
Is someone who makes 200k annually really making that much after income taxes. Being in the highest tax bracket I'm sure the government takes a huge chunk of that money probably almost 50%. Not sure on the figures.
my dad just got a raise and he'll be making 200K but I'm sure a huge portion of that is going to go the governemnt :(

johny 08-20-2009 03:59 PM

he's making more then 99% of everyone else in the country...

income tax probably works out some where in the mid to high 30%. too lazy to figure it out.

Blinky 08-20-2009 04:41 PM

here... let meeeee...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=quick+canadian+...tax+calculator

unit 08-20-2009 04:47 PM

your dad is lucky to make so much by working for someone else

http://lsminsurance.ca/calculators/canada/income-tax

he takes home around $131k

SuperSlowSS 08-21-2009 12:12 PM

god that sucks. thank god for corp tax. 15% for me. :)

misteranswer 08-21-2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blinky (Post 6556674)

That website is awesome

DVS8 08-21-2009 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSlowSS (Post 6557828)
god that sucks. thank god for corp tax. 15% for me. :)

I hope you still file personal income taxes if you're receiving income from a coporation. Corps are taxed as separate entity in the CRA's eyes.

SuperSlowSS 08-21-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DVS8 (Post 6557891)
I hope you still file personal income taxes if you're receiving income from a coporation. Corps are taxed as separate entity in the CRA's eyes.

thanx captain obvious!

Chuck Norris 08-21-2009 03:23 PM

This is taking into account no tax write offs of any kind.

$200k working for someone is a solid job. The average in the country is around $35k for an example.

The irony is, no matter how much you make, you get used to it.

DVS8 08-21-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSlowSS (Post 6558014)
thanx captain obvious!

apparently not that obvious to you since you think you can get away with not paying the personal rate of tax.....

WHEYsted 08-21-2009 04:34 PM

This is exactly what I said in UNIT's thread http://www.revscene.net/forums/being....html?t=585738

Hey both our fathers are making the same income. May I ask what your dad does for a living?

SuperSlowSS 08-21-2009 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DVS8 (Post 6558091)
apparently not that obvious to you since you think you can get away with not paying the personal rate of tax.....

get yourself an accountant. have them explain to you how it can be done.

waddy41 08-22-2009 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperSlowSS (Post 6558185)
get yourself an accountant. have them explain to you how it can be done.

Why don't you explain it?

The corporation's income is taxed at 15% but it has to retain the earnings. As soon as you pass it onto a person, that person will get taxed.

The amount is either
1) expensed by the corporation (No 15% tax for the corp.) but the person has to pay income tax at a much higher rate, or

2) returned to the shareholder (taxed at 15% for the corp) and the person will pay tax of 50% of the capital gain

Gt-R R34 08-22-2009 01:13 PM

He might own the corp. paying himself a dividend.

Thats the only way i see it. Or he puts down 9K as employment income, and then the rest he just "draws" out from the company as an expense. Hell i have no idea. I'm curious too.


Chuck, you notice that too....so ironic.

I make X figure, sure i save some, but it feels like i spend as much as i did when i was 16 flipping burgers and bus boy. The more i make the more i spend.

twitchyzero 08-22-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit (Post 6556686)
your dad is lucky to make so much by working for someone else

http://lsminsurance.ca/calculators/canada/income-tax

he takes home around $131k

is there a similar website like this but for the US?

misteranswer 08-22-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 6559113)
is there a similar website like this but for the US?

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=income+tax+calculator+usa

Blinky 08-22-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by misteranswer (Post 6559134)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/...19bb4d7b_o.jpg
roflcake!

AsBannedAsItGets 08-22-2009 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 6558031)
This is taking into account no tax write offs of any kind.

$200k working for someone is a solid job. The average in the country is around $35k for an example.

The irony is, no matter how much you make, you get used to it.

I know my dad get an accountant to do his expenses at the end of the year and I'm sure tax write offs are included.
But yeah, take home of $135,000 isn't so bad if the average is 35k...
That almost seems a little too low. :eek:

WHEYsted 08-22-2009 09:41 PM

What does your dad do?

DVS8 08-22-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSlowSS (Post 6558185)
get yourself an accountant. have them explain to you how it can be done.

Lol...if I can get away with paying income tax rate at the combined Ontario sales tax rate I would. I still call BS. The income tax act deals with a principle called integration. Sure there are loop holes, but the deductions allowed would not let you claim your bragged rate year over year legally.

OP... Sorry for hijacking your thread. What the marginal tax rate applied to your fathers wage also depends on the nature of his compensation (ie cash, stocks options, etc).

waddy41 08-23-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DVS8 (Post 6559565)
Lol...if I can get away with paying income tax rate at the combined Ontario sales tax rate I would. I still call BS. The income tax act deals with a principle called integration. Sure there are loop holes, but the deductions allowed would not let you claim your bragged rate year over year legally.

OP... Sorry for hijacking your thread. What the marginal tax rate applied to your fathers wage also depends on the nature of his compensation (ie cash, stocks options, etc).

Exactly (on integration)
in the end, the tax rate from employment, business and investment income should be the same..
unless you're very aggressive in expensing with your corporation

twitchyzero 08-23-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misteranswer (Post 6559134)

i already googled it..none of them were helpful

SuperSlowSS 08-23-2009 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVS8 (Post 6559565)
Lol...if I can get away with paying income tax rate at the combined Ontario sales tax rate I would. I still call BS. The income tax act deals with a principle called integration. Sure there are loop holes, but the deductions allowed would not let you claim your bragged rate year over year legally.

OP... Sorry for hijacking your thread. What the marginal tax rate applied to your fathers wage also depends on the nature of his compensation (ie cash, stocks options, etc).

it isn't even a loop hole. it is just how you structure your company and how you pay yourself. anyways...call it whatever you want. I only pay 15% tax.. the gov knows it and it is perfectly legal.

Chuck Norris 08-24-2009 07:37 AM

There are always ways to pay less tax.

If you own a business for example, you can deduct:

Car/lease/fuel/insurance
Boat/lease/fuel/insurance
Clothes/meals
Computer/internet/phone
Business trips/hockey tickets etc.

Obviously you want to do things honestly but there are a lot of choices. If you figure what someone can draw from the business, they don't have to declare a lot of personal income pulled from the business.

For most business owners, that would be their mortgage, personal grocery bill, and some odds and ends if they have a family.

They can max out their RSP every year so a savings plan is taken care of and many of them use loans to invest into mutual funds for their non-registered accounts so that they pay less tax again and they can deduct the interest (a good strategy).

Sometimes business owners pay themselves a dividend, sell shares (depends on the structure) for capital gains etc.

There is so much to cover and so many different things you can do which is why a huge business will usually have a few lawyers, accountants, and planners to manage it.

I worked with a guy a few years ago who owned his own business and on paper, it looked like he only made about $20,000 a year. His business was turning over a 7 figure profit per year.

Chuck Norris 08-24-2009 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AsRealAsItGets (Post 6559334)
I know my dad get an accountant to do his expenses at the end of the year and I'm sure tax write offs are included.
But yeah, take home of $135,000 isn't so bad if the average is 35k...
That almost seems a little too low. :eek:

The average income per household (usually two people working) in the most expensive neighborhoods in Vancouver is $140,000 before tax.

Keep in mind that if you make your money in another country and then come to Canada and buy a home, these numbers are not included in the stats. Vancouver has a lot of illegal and foreign money. Income-wise, Canada is very poor. High tax and limited upside compared to other countries.


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