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godwin 10-21-2009 06:47 AM

If is fine if you are on a flat surface.. but imagine you on a slope... besides it is braking that causes the issue.. not so much of moving/traction.

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Originally Posted by thumper (Post 6645496)
i always could not understand that statement above. i know it's what the tire manufacturers recommend, but what is the point of doing it if your non-snow tires on the driven wheels have no traction and cannot move the car in the first place? there is nothing to recover from if the car is stuck to begin with :confused:


SumAznGuy 10-21-2009 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by thumper (Post 6645496)
i always could not understand that statement above. i know it's what the tire manufacturers recommend, but what is the point of doing it if your non-snow tires on the driven wheels have no traction and cannot move the car in the first place? there is nothing to recover from if the car is stuck to begin with :confused:

You will have a difference in traction levels if you put the snows in the front and all-seasons in the rear. Try turning in the snow, the rear of the car will slide and you will not be able to recover from the slide. Been there, done it.

For me, it's 4 snow tires or the bus.

IIRC, ICBC will not cover you in the event of an accident and you only have snow tires on the fronts and all-seasons in the rear. I remember a few years back, some person had that and lost control crashing and killing themselves and then not too long after that ICBC came out with that statement.

sonick 10-21-2009 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ctsport (Post 6645418)
I bought these for winter too, hope they're good! :D

+1, here too. Got a hot deal on them from Tirerack, $250 shipped to Pt. Roberts, and they charged me no duties and no taxes.

thumper 10-21-2009 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by godwin (Post 6645499)
honestly a month ago.. tirerack had a huge sale.. 70 bucks for 17" was a deal.

If you get Nokians and you want a deal, get it in WA.. Kaltire has exclusive on Nokians in BC.. and they sell at MSRP.

this is true. i bought my nokians from WA. i can't remember the exact figure but i saved about $200cdn landed, even with the poor exchange rate at the time. kal tire was both heavily marked up and they also did not have stock for what i wanted.

thumper 10-21-2009 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6645520)
You will have a difference in traction levels if you put the snows in the front and all-seasons in the rear. Try turning in the snow, the rear of the car will slide and you will not be able to recover from the slide. Been there, done it.

For me, it's 4 snow tires or the bus.

IIRC, ICBC will not cover you in the event of an accident and you only have snow tires on the fronts and all-seasons in the rear. I remember a few years back, some person had that and lost control crashing and killing themselves and then not too long after that ICBC came out with that statement.

icic... then what about tire chains? i'm not saying i do this myself, but i've seen people with snows in the back and tire chains in the front on an FWD car heading for the ski slopes.

dinamix 10-21-2009 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6645520)
You will have a difference in traction levels if you put the snows in the front and all-seasons in the rear. Try turning in the snow, the rear of the car will slide and you will not be able to recover from the slide. Been there, done it.

For me, it's 4 snow tires or the bus.

IIRC, ICBC will not cover you in the event of an accident and you only have snow tires on the fronts and all-seasons in the rear. I remember a few years back, some person had that and lost control crashing and killing themselves and then not too long after that ICBC came out with that statement.


snow tires mounted on front axle (front wheel drive) - good acceleration, good steering, good braking. However, since the rear wheels have no lateral guidance, the rear end will come around. Not good. Feather your brakes. Go slow.

-bottom line. its fine to drive with 2 tires as long as you dont drive like an idiot

Mugen EvOlutioN 10-21-2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 6645527)
+1, here too. Got a hot deal on them from Tirerack, $250 shipped to Pt. Roberts, and they charged me no duties and no taxes.

why not? u just got lucky?

sonick 10-21-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN (Post 6645601)
why not? u just got lucky?

Yeah pretty much... It was $204 USD for the tires, gave the guy my invoice from TireRack and just waved me through :haha:

shenmecar 10-21-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 6645611)
Yeah pretty much... It was $204 USD for the tires, gave the guy my invoice from TireRack and just waved me through :haha:

Where did you ship it to in Pt Roberts?

Mugen EvOlutioN 10-21-2009 10:10 AM

lucky basterd
:D

SumAznGuy 10-21-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by shenmecar (Post 6645762)
Where did you ship it to in Pt Roberts?

The Letter Carrier is open on saturdays but they leave your tires outside, free to the elements.
I like TSB better, but they are not open on weekends.

Google search both.

Not paying taxes and duties at Pt. Roberts is a first for me. I've ALWAYS been charged taxes on tires there. Blaine is where I get lucky at. Plus it's closer for me.

sonick 10-21-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by shenmecar (Post 6645762)
Where did you ship it to in Pt Roberts?

Yup, The Letter Carrier.

SumAznGuy 10-21-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by thumper (Post 6645540)
icic... then what about tire chains? i'm not saying i do this myself, but i've seen people with snows in the back and tire chains in the front on an FWD car heading for the ski slopes.

Tire chains technically only work in a straight line. They don't really help you turn, so drive wheels only *should* be fine but your rear brakes may lock up easier or throw the ABS into ice mode which could affect your braking.

Soundy 10-21-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6645784)
The Letter Carrier is open on saturdays but they leave your tires outside, free to the elements.

O NOZ!! Snow tires, exposed to the elements?! HORROR!!! :haha:

Gh0stRider 10-21-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6645784)
The Letter Carrier is open on saturdays but they leave your tires outside, free to the elements.
I like TSB better, but they are not open on weekends.

Google search both.

Not paying taxes and duties at Pt. Roberts is a first for me. I've ALWAYS been charged taxes on tires there. Blaine is where I get lucky at. Plus it's closer for me.

ya, i ship everything to blaine as well, then drive to a rest stop or bellis fair and throw away all the boxes..lol

thumper 10-22-2009 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6646865)
O NOZ!! Snow tires, exposed to the elements?! HORROR!!! :haha:

well, not exactly. the last time i was stupid and stored unmounted tires outside uncovered, rainwater filled up the insides and it took me forever to mop up the mess before i could load them up into the car to get mounted on rims :(

Soundy 10-22-2009 06:46 AM

Are the tires not shipped in bags?

SumAznGuy 10-22-2009 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6647553)
Are the tires not shipped in bags?

Obviously not, or else I wouldn't have said they were left out to the elements. Damn Noobs.

Soundy 10-22-2009 07:07 AM

All the tires I've ever got from Kal Tire came in their own sealed bags. You should buy tires from a decent shop :P

hotjoint 10-22-2009 07:12 AM

its gonna be mild this year, lots of rain :)

Mugen EvOlutioN 10-22-2009 07:15 AM

^

weak no parking lot drifting party than

syee 10-22-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6647553)
Are the tires not shipped in bags?

haha, nope. Tire rack pretty much tapes the shipping label to the tire and then bundles them in pairs with either tape or the plastic straps that you see on boxes and ships them out the door.

Tires should be OK exposed to the elements. They see much worse conditions mounted on your wheels. :D

spydermanx 10-22-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6645784)

I like TSB better, but they are not open on weekends.

FYI TSB is now open on Saturdays, 9am to 1pm.

SumAznGuy 10-22-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spydermanx (Post 6647981)
FYI TSB is now open on Saturdays, 9am to 1pm.

Excellent. That is really good news. I like their facilities way better than TLC.

Last time I had tires shipped to TLC, there were spiders, and tree leaves all over the tires and even inside the tires. Luckily, all my tire pickups have been when it is dry. Wet tires would suck.

SumAznGuy 10-22-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6647567)
All the tires I've ever got from Kal Tire came in their own sealed bags. You should buy tires from a decent shop :P

More than likely, the tires were shipped naked or bound in pairs.

When they arrived at Kal Tire, the workers there bagged them for you and charged you the bagging fee in their outragously high prices. :rolleyes:


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