So every car made before 1992 or whatever year they became mandatory is out to hit you and you will hit them? LOL

Not saying they don't make things MORE visible, but your argument is kind of missing its point considering a HUGE percentage of cars do not have them at all.

You know what should be banned? All the cars (I notice HONDA'S in particular suffer from this) who light the entire dash up when the headlights aren't on!!! That's just stupid! I've lost count how many times I've been out at night and seen some Honda Accord or whatever else cruising around with no tail-lights on because they think their headlights are on because the guage cluster is fully illuminated... even my wife's Honda Fit Sport does this. I can't even begin to think of the reason they wired it that way.

that's exactly what i did before, i just took the fuse out for my drl

Actually DRL's also help determine whether a car is turned on or not. So say for example you're driving on a single lane road and you want to overtake the car in front of you. You choose to turn into the lane heading in the opposite direction to overtake this person ahead of you. Now imagine seeing a car up ahead without their DRL's turned on.

Is it moving towards you or is it parked?

Now some people would think that its parked and continue to proceed into the other lane to overtake the car. At the point they would crash into a dumb ass such as yourself who chose to turn off his DRL's because he "wanted to be cool".

So you're actually endangering the lives of other drivers when you deactivate them off.

well technically he has the DRL so only thing that could happen is him hitting the car without DRL

this is on most new cars... the reason the dash light i son and it usual brighter is so it can compete with the sun. during the day you pupil are smaller so u need the extra light to see the dash. I find it stupid that some people who think its cool and have the dash light on the brightest at night... you will just strain you eyes
if you havent noticed when you turn on your headlights the dash should dim! to make it easier on your eyes at night

So what if the dumbass forgot to turn off his headlights? Will that prevent you from over taking the other car?

Also, can you name a road in Vancovuer where you will be over taking another car, and have cars parked on the side of the road where they are close enough to be in the lane and you cannot tell if there is a driver or not? It is a far stretch for you example to be valid.

The honest truth is that there is no harm to have DRL's on in the day. Sure, there might be some premature wear on the lights, but bulbs cost what $1 or 2 each, unless you have those PIAA bulbs. But what is $80 over 3 or 5 years for a set of bulbs?

But don't fool yourself in thinking DRL's are the end all to human mistakes/stupidity. :thumbsup:

NNS, if you don't want me to hit you with my car, then don't be driving your car in the oncoming traffic lane. ;)

Is it against the curb, or in the driving lane? It's not that hard to tell if it's light out. If it's dark out, you should have your lights on anyway.

Honestly.. Who gives a shit... not everyone needs to pass everyone else out there.

I think that DRL's are stupid.. because they don't turn on the rear lights. So, I disabled my DRL's and wired up the marker lights to come on whenever the engine is running instead.

DRL's are especially important in the rain. Driving home from work yesterday there was a civic behind me with no drl's and it was silver. It wasnt invisible, but if I had just glanced I wouldnt have known it was there.

I've seen alot of cars around lately with no DRL's actually. Saw an older audi TT pull into the gym parking lot with no lights on at all last night around 8:30

^ then they are idiots,

when the weather isn't right you should turn on your lights even if you have DRL. some people just don't have any common sence

lets just put it this way... stealth =/= cool.. stealth = why there are so many accidents even without the influence of alcohol

we kinda have a nation of 300 million people to south of us that don't run drl and they seem to be doing fine.

That is exactly why I pulled the fuse on my DRL. I'd get in the car and without even realizing it I'd be driving without my lights on since the dash was lit up.
When I pulled the fuse then the dash lights only came on if the headlights were on.

i didnt say thats what they were made for, i gave an example of a situation where they come in useful. people DO forget to turn on headlights all the time. you've never caught yourself with your headlights off before part way through your drive? why do you think new cars have auto headlights? because people do forget all the time. all im saying is more visibility is not a bad thing. i dont see how you can argue that.

actually on a 7th gen accord if the dash lights are off you can't see the cluster as the plastic in front of the cluster isnt clear it's actually tinted so they actually need the lights

that being said I believe when purchasing a car some simple things such as this should be told to everyone. Just see way too many people driving with out proper lights

well my stupid car lights up the dash at all times, and has no drls

both how the car came :\ so i didn't disable anything, and the only thing that lights up is a little icon when the headlights are on

The MR2's use their fog lights as DRL's... I've seen some cars running around with their side markers as DRL's as well. My black MR2 had flush mounted headlights and I just left the headlights on all the time. Pull the key and open the door, the lights turned off on it's own. My USDM MR2 has no such feature :(

My gray car must be invisible all the time. I've been rear ended 3 times in the past year and a half. Most recently 3 weeks ago. I could be just sitting at a red light and I'll hear screeching tires behind me... guh..

happened to my last car as well


time to switch i guess

No, it's cause you have a sexy ass and they wanted to give it to you hard. ;)

from behind

My HIDs turn on the moment I turn my key to the "on" position before starting the car up, so I never worry about forgetting to turn on or off my low beams at night.

so it's useful for stupid drivers to be fooled into thinking their headlights are on? when in fact, only DRLs are on in the front and all tail lights are off. the point here is, if DRLs did not exist, people would be forced into remembering to turn their headlights on. thus, there would be sufficient light for BOTH directions of traffic. you cannot argue that light in the front is beneficial when people in the back are equally (if not more) screwed by the lack of light. instead, we coddle the retards and give them something that creates a false sense of security.

as for the comments about hondas having their cluster lights on all the time, this is ADJUSTABLE. the setting you have without the headlights on can be set differently than when you have them on. i used to drive a 2004 civic lx and at first i thought it was stupid too. then i fiddled around with it and came upon this discovery.

Do you have Bi-Xenon? What does HID have to do with high beams?

Maybe this will stop the argument on DRL's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp

Or open another can of worms? :confused:

I don't understand why people here hate for DRL's so much that they argue tooth and nail against them. A couple of extra lights turn on during the day, bigfuckingdeal.