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chwks13 09-26-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 6609437)
Personally, I'd just not get so poor that it mattered... but that's me.

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Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 6609437)
FWD = fail.
4 banger = fail.
v6 = fail.

OK, I`m going on a rant here. I hate people like you. Why? You're ignorant and completely full of yourself. Guess what? Reality kick here.... not all of us had money handed down to us from Mommy and Daddy, won the lottery, or were stupid enough to take out a loan to buy an expensive vette. Some of us actually work hard for what we drive, and take pride in what we drive, whether we spent alot of money on our car, or a little, and I"m not gonna sit here and let some ignorant tool like you undermine and make fun of other people's cars.

I work as a mechanic and drive a 92 GSR. Yeah, it's a Honda. Yeah, it's FWD. It is what it is, it's a fun car to drive. I've had RWD (two RX7s), domestics, imports, I've driven them. Some were better than others, but I'm not going to go up to somebody with his Civic and tell him it's a piece of shit. Why? Because I have no right to. The whole point of the automotive community is to support each others projects, and enjoy it in the process. Not to shoot them down and tell them that their Civic will never be as great as the almighty Corvette.

So how about you learn to respect the fact that these cars have alot of potential. Sure, they're not nearly as expensive, and don't have that "bling" factor that your super-fantastic Corvette has, but guess what? If I was to dump the same amount of money that you spent on your vette into my GSR, I'd rape you on the track any day of the week. Just because you have money, doesn't make you better than the rest of us, so grow up.

Evolutionian 09-26-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chwkef (Post 6610051)
OK, I`m going on a rant here. I hate people like you. Why? You're ignorant and completely full of yourself. Guess what? Reality kick here.... not all of us had money handed down to us from Mommy and Daddy, won the lottery, or were stupid enough to take out a loan to buy an expensive vette. Some of us actually work hard for what we drive, and take pride in what we drive, whether we spent alot of money on our car, or a little, and I"m not gonna sit here and let some ignorant tool like you undermine and make fun of other people's cars.

I work as a mechanic and drive a 92 GSR. Yeah, it's a Honda. Yeah, it's FWD. It is what it is, it's a fun car to drive. I've had RWD (two RX7s), domestics, imports, I've driven them. Some were better than others, but I'm not going to go up to somebody with his Civic and tell him it's a piece of shit. Why? Because I have no right to. The whole point of the automotive community is to support each others projects, and enjoy it in the process. Not to shoot them down and tell them that their Civic will never be as great as the almighty Corvette.

So how about you learn to respect the fact that these cars have alot of potential. Sure, they're not nearly as expensive, and don't have that "bling" factor that your super-fantastic Corvette has, but guess what? If I was to dump the same amount of money that you spent on your vette into my GSR, I'd rape you on the track any day of the week. Just because you have money, doesn't make you better than the rest of us, so grow up.

Chose to be silence when i first saw zulu's post.
but i guess now that you open up the flame can, ill do my part :)

Corvettes arent even "Super Fantastics", they can easily get raped by an Evo on the track lol oh yeah and off the track as well, during rainy days as well, oh also during snowing days as well.


yeah grow the fuck up

jdmhaze 09-26-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Evolutionian (Post 6610071)
Corvettes arent even "Super Fantastics", they can easily get raped by an Evo on the track lol oh yeah and off the track as well, during rainy days as well, oh also during snowing days as well.

Lets not get TOO far ahead of ourselves. The ZR-1 isn't so bad....

http://www.atomicnerds.com/wp-conten...008/01/zr1.jpg

RabidRat 09-26-2009 04:13 PM

I don't think you can really say that FWD cars don't perform as well as RWD cars in a blanket statement. About the only thing you can say is that they're at a disadvantage: it takes more work to make a FWD car as fast as a comparable RWD car in motorsports.

OP: Same idea with the Mazda3 vs Si argument. I had a Mazda3, a 4dr 2.3L 5MT just like yours. With a little prep work (coilovers, swaybars, camber links, brake pads, ate superblue, intake, exhaust, wider stickier tires), I was practically running circles around the Si in my run group the last time I brought the car out to a lapping day. Yes the Si is a faster car out of the box, but that doesn't mean it has to stay that way =).

FeistyBearH22a 09-26-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 6609408)
And tell me, which FWD 4 banger is going to cause me to feel anything in the vette? Yeah that's what I thought. Go back to counting your MPG riceboi.




That's because you = fail.

My car will.
Friday October 2nd for the street legals. Put your money where you fat mouth is.

Evolutionian 09-26-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmhaze (Post 6610090)
Lets not get TOO far ahead of ourselves. The ZR-1 isn't so bad....

http://www.atomicnerds.com/wp-conten...008/01/zr1.jpg

you know what, corvettes are actually one of my favorite cars.
i just simply dont like the fact that many corvette drivers are ignorant people.
and think their corvettes are the best in the world.

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Originally Posted by RabidRat (Post 6610093)
I don't think you can really say that FWD cars don't perform as well as RWD cars in a blanket statement. About the only thing you can say is that they're at a disadvantage: it takes more work to make a FWD car as fast as a comparable RWD car in motorsports.

OP: Same idea with the Mazda3 vs Si argument. I had a Mazda3, a 4dr 2.3L 5MT just like yours. With a little prep work (coilovers, swaybars, camber links, brake pads, ate superblue, intake, exhaust, wider stickier tires), I was practically running circles around the Si in my run group the last time I brought the car out to a lapping day. Yes the Si is a faster car out of the box, but that doesn't mean it has to stay that way =).

yaya. i havve about the same modification :)
and it handles quite nice, just takes alot of thraottle control around the corners to keep traction :(

RabidRat 09-26-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmhaze (Post 6610090)
Lets not get TOO far ahead of ourselves. The ZR-1 isn't so bad....

http://www.atomicnerds.com/wp-conten...008/01/zr1.jpg

sure.

but Mr. Zulu, drives a base model corvette from the '90s.

FeistyBearH22a 09-26-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RabidRat (Post 6610104)
sure.

but Mr. Zulu, drives a base model corvette from the '90s.

Preach! ZR1 is a totally different animal all together.

Zulu is just a dumb ass douche bag that likes to generalize with out knowing what the fuck he's talking about.

!SG 09-26-2009 04:33 PM

performance is good n all, but lets talk comfort... my GS is up there, all it lacks it the flight attendant asking if you need another pillow.

=)

Zulu 09-26-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chwkef (Post 6610051)
OK, I`m going on a rant here. I hate people like you. Why? You're ignorant and completely full of yourself. Guess what? Reality kick here.... not all of us had money handed down to us from Mommy and Daddy, won the lottery, or were stupid enough to take out a loan to buy an expensive vette.

Are you implying that because you're stupid and poor, I had to get my money from my parents? I actually moved around internationally, started different businesses, and became successful from my own sweat and blood. Go fuck yourself.

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If I was to dump the same amount of money that you spent on your vette into my GSR, I'd rape you on the track any day of the week. Just because you have money, doesn't make you better than the rest of us, so grow up.
Uh, probably not. The C5 is the best bang for the buck performance car you can buy these days. If we spend $1 for every $1 the other spends, I guarantee you my car will run like a raped ape (it already does), and yours... well... it'll make a BUZZZZZ sound down the street. I will always accelerate harder, brake harder, and turn harder than you. Not to mention, being able to STREET DAILY DRIVE AT OVER 650HP (7psi procharger) as opposed to... you... who would need a trailer and probably grenade anyway. Fuck, go checkout the DPE corvette on youtube, that beasts at 920hp (13psi).

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Originally Posted by FeistyBearH22a (Post 6610099)
My car will.
Friday October 2nd for the street legals. Put your money where you fat mouth is.

Uh, I'm in SoCal kiddo. You're welcome to come join the big boys whenever you want.

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Originally Posted by RabidRat (Post 6610104)
sure.
but Mr. Zulu, drives a base model corvette from the '90s.

I bought my vette for cash and sent it to Felix Cadillac for some upgrades, and it's not from the 90s. Listen to the video above and guess the current displacement. ;)


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Originally Posted by FeistyBearH22a (Post 6610110)
Zulu is just a dumb ass douche bag that likes to generalize with out knowing what the fuck he's talking about.

No, I'm the guy in the corvette that sounds like it's about to rip your face of, and you're the guy in the h22. hahaha.

Mugen EvOlutioN 09-26-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RabidRat (Post 6610093)
I don't think you can really say that FWD cars don't perform as well as RWD cars in a blanket statement. About the only thing you can say is that they're at a disadvantage: it takes more work to make a FWD car as fast as a comparable RWD car in motorsports.

OP: Same idea with the Mazda3 vs Si argument. I had a Mazda3, a 4dr 2.3L 5MT just like yours. With a little prep work (coilovers, swaybars, camber links, brake pads, ate superblue, intake, exhaust, wider stickier tires), I was practically running circles around the Si in my run group the last time I brought the car out to a lapping day. Yes the Si is a faster car out of the box, but that doesn't mean it has to stay that way =).

i agree, stock suspension on the 3 is pretty decent for wat it is already

Lomac 09-26-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 6610194)
Are you implying that because you're stupid and poor, I had to get my money from my parents? I actually moved around internationally, started different businesses, and became successful from my own sweat and blood. Go fuck yourself.



Uh, probably not. The C5 is the best bang for the buck performance car you can buy these days. If we spend $1 for every $1 the other spends, I guarantee you my car will run like a raped ape (it already does), and yours... well... it'll make a BUZZZZZ sound down the street. I will always accelerate harder, brake harder, and turn harder than you. Not to mention, being able to STREET DAILY DRIVE AT OVER 650HP (7psi procharger) as opposed to... you... who would need a trailer and probably grenade anyway. Fuck, go checkout the DPE corvette on youtube, that beasts at 920hp (13psi).



Uh, I'm in SoCal kiddo. You're welcome to come join the big boys whenever you want.



I bought my vette for cash and sent it to Felix Cadillac for some upgrades, and it's not from the 90s. Listen to the video above and guess the current displacement. ;)




No, I'm the guy in the corvette that sounds like it's about to rip your face of, and you're the guy in the h22. hahaha.

Wow, we now have a Marco911 of the 'Vette variety! :lol

d1 09-26-2009 05:56 PM

There are many fwd cars that I like that are faster than my car but even so, I'd prefer mine. It's more about how well it feels than how fast it drives.

Zulu 09-26-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 6610213)
Wow, we now have a Marco911 of the 'Vette variety! :lol

Kid, do your research. I'm not exactly new.

Meowjin 09-26-2009 08:45 PM

i never knew v6's were fail... considering some of the best engines ever made were twin turbo v6's.

Volvo-brickster 09-26-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 6610350)
Kid, do your research. I'm not exactly new.

im fairly certain you once photoshopped a swastika on the forehead of some girl and posted on RS :haha:

chwks13 09-26-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 6610194)
Are you implying that because you're stupid and poor, I had to get my money from my parents? I actually moved around internationally, started different businesses, and became successful from my own sweat and blood. Go fuck yourself.

Nope. I'm just saying that just because you have money doesn't make you special. Obviously it's a sensitive subject for you, so i'll leave it alone ;)

And yeah, I'm stupid and poor :)

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Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 6610194)
Uh, probably not. The C5 is the best bang for the buck performance car you can buy these days. If we spend $1 for every $1 the other spends, I guarantee you my car will run like a raped ape (it already does), and yours... well... it'll make a BUZZZZZ sound down the street. I will always accelerate harder, brake harder, and turn harder than you. Not to mention, being able to STREET DAILY DRIVE AT OVER 650HP (7psi procharger) as opposed to... you... who would need a trailer and probably grenade anyway. Fuck, go checkout the DPE corvette on youtube, that beasts at 920hp (13psi).

No, you don't get what I'm saying. I don't know about where you're from, but around here, expect to pay about $25,000 for a C5 Vette. Great. Now, I bought my GSR for about $4,000. So that leaves me with $21,000 in mods I'd have to make just to spend the same amount on my car as you did on yours. If I were to do that, the GSR would be well ahead of you. Of course, I'm not going to, because I have other financial priorities in my life like buying a house, but you should at least see what I'm saying here.

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Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 6610194)
Uh, I'm in SoCal kiddo. You're welcome to come join the big boys whenever you want.

It all makes sense now. Please stay there.

FeistyBearH22a 09-26-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chwkef (Post 6610474)



It all makes sense now. Please stay there.

God know's they need more fat retards down there.

RabidRat 09-26-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 6610350)
Kid, do your research. I'm not exactly new.

I was just about to say, you and your marco911 sentiments are getting old.

impactX 09-26-2009 11:44 PM

haha Welcome back Zulu.

Zulu 09-27-2009 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by impactX (Post 6610597)
haha Welcome back Zulu.

Return in style amirite? ;P

Evolutionian 09-27-2009 12:10 PM

maybe look at the AMS evo? lol

2.3L 4 cyl with 1130AWHP, you can kiss that 4 cyl ass good bye :)

daily drivable, and winter drivable as well, you just have a to be a good driver

Meowjin 09-27-2009 12:36 PM

:facepalm:

asahai69 09-27-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chwkef (Post 6610474)

No, you don't get what I'm saying. I don't know about where you're from, but around here, expect to pay about $25,000 for a C5 Vette. Great. Now, I bought my GSR for about $4,000. So that leaves me with $21,000 in mods I'd have to make just to spend the same amount on my car as you did on yours. If I were to do that, the GSR would be well ahead of you. Of course, I'm not going to, because I have other financial priorities in my life like buying a house, but you should at least see what I'm saying here.


i dont understand this logic. lets say sum dude had a lambo. i drove a sti. spent the $300 000 difference in upgrades i would still be totally behind. because im still driving a fucking Subaru. plus id look like a fucking moron spending 300k on a car worth a tenth of the price.

bcrdukes 09-27-2009 02:43 PM

^
What he's trying to say is, there are a lot of other things in life that are far more important than fast and expensive cars.


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