bought these on Ebay last month, worn them 3 times. I always wear Under Armor long sleeve under the pads. Like new still. I just prefer my old Jofa's.
These are heavy duty pro stuff. Dual Cap, 4 strap system to keep pad in place. Fall flat on the ice on your elbows or fend off a goon with an elbow to the chops, wearing these, you won't feel a thing. Tough to find this model. Size 5 in Jofa language. Or about med/lrge $50obo
this is the link to the ebay auction when i bought them
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
pics here
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...397545432.html 
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