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10-03-2009, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by penner2k  Tiger Woods is a cheater..
How is getting laser eye surgery to get better then perfect eye sight any different then a baseball player taking roids? | U CAN DO THAT?!!! omg sign me up!
and yeah if he did that, they should ban him
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10-03-2009, 12:21 PM
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#27 | | Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
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Originally Posted by penner2k Tiger Woods is a cheater..
How is getting laser eye surgery to get better then perfect eye sight any different then a baseball player taking roids? | Because your eye doesn't swing the club.
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10-03-2009, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by penner2k Tiger Woods is a cheater..
How is getting laser eye surgery to get better then perfect eye sight any different then a baseball player taking roids? | It's different because laser eye surgery just makes your eyesight equal to a level that people can have naturally.
Steroids enhances your performance to a level that one cannot have naturally.
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10-03-2009, 12:31 PM
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10-03-2009, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul It's different because laser eye surgery just makes your eyesight equal to a level that people can have naturally.
Steroids enhances your performance to a level that one cannot have naturally. | Actually Tiger Woods is 20/15 which means he sees at 20 feet what a normal person with perfect eye sight would see at 15 feet. That is better then perfect.
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10-03-2009, 01:01 PM
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#31 | | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul It's different because laser eye surgery just makes your eyesight equal to a level that people can have naturally.
Steroids enhances your performance to a level that one cannot have naturally. | did u read his msg? penner said he got surgery to get better than normal eyesight
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10-03-2009, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by VancityPimp Because your eye doesn't swing the club. | Swinging the club is the easy part.
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10-03-2009, 01:03 PM
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10-03-2009, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by penner2k Swinging the club is the easy part. | So you're saying to correct someone's vision to the best possible eye sight is the same as taking steroids to enhance an athletes physical performance? Okay, let's think of it this way, if there was a surgery to help paraplegic's walk again and play sports, is that cheating?
Tiger got lasik to correct his vision and which technology today it's possible to get surgery to have better than perfect vision. It's like buying a car with 300hp as compared to 100hp, why do you need such a fast car when there is a speed limit, is that cheating?
I think the vision definately gives Tiger and edge, but I do not consider that cheating or anything similar to taking steroids.
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10-03-2009, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Drift_Monkey not only is he rich, he is the youngest athlete to make that much money | He's the ONLY athlete. Period.
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10-03-2009, 07:56 PM
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10-03-2009, 08:00 PM
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10-03-2009, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by penner2k Tiger Woods is a cheater..
How is getting laser eye surgery to get better then perfect eye sight any different then a baseball player taking roids? | because any other player could do the same legally if they wanted to?
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10-03-2009, 09:12 PM
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i dont think sports athletes are banned from doing laser eye surgery, are they?? that would be a horrible rule
steroids is completely cheating and disrespecting the game, not even a fair comparison
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10-03-2009, 09:24 PM
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tiger's laser eye surgery = having a basketball player installing springs in their knees so they can jump higher.
he is like installing binoculars into his eyeballs!
what about roger federer? isn't he getting paid a lot too?
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10-04-2009, 01:59 AM
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#41 | | I STILL don't get it
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Originally Posted by TRDood tiger's laser eye surgery = having a basketball player installing springs in their knees so they can jump higher.
he is like installing binoculars into his eyeballs!
what about roger federer? isn't he getting paid a lot too? | Jumping higher does not make you a better basketball player. Steroids are known to enhance an athletes performance beyond what a natural athlete can achieve. Tiger Woods better than average eye-sight IS NOT as a result of laser surgery. Laser surgery does not enhance someones vision, but merely restores ones' vision to it's original state.
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10-04-2009, 02:43 AM
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#42 | | "They call me Bowser...RawR!"
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Originally Posted by VancityPimp Tiger got lasik to correct his vision and which technology today it's possible to get surgery to have better than perfect vision. It's like buying a car with 300hp as compared to 100hp, why do you need such a fast car when there is a speed limit, is that cheating? | Yes, cuz the 300hp car can get to the speed limit much faster than the 100hp car and will cross a finish line way before the weaker car. The weaker car would never catch up unless it went past the speed limit.
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10-04-2009, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon Yes, cuz the 300hp car can get to the speed limit much faster than the 100hp car and will cross a finish line way before the weaker car. The weaker car would never catch up unless it went past the speed limit. | So how is having a 300hp car compared to a 100hp car cheating? 
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10-04-2009, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 1337 Jumping higher does not make you a better basketball player. Steroids are known to enhance an athletes performance beyond what a natural athlete can achieve. Tiger Woods better than average eye-sight IS NOT as a result of laser surgery. Laser surgery does not enhance someones vision, but merely restores ones' vision to it's original state. | Lets look at this from another point of view. Lets say an athlete was nearly 50 years old. His testosterone levels are obviously gonna be lower then lets say a 19 year old athlete. This means it takes longer for him to recover from a game and to keep up his strength. This means its nearly impossible to stay competitive against the younger athletes. Is it still cheating if he is taking drugs to bring his hormone levels up to a normal level?
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10-04-2009, 10:12 AM
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10-04-2009, 09:19 PM
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#46 | | "They call me Bowser...RawR!"
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Originally Posted by VancityPimp So how is having a 300hp car compared to a 100hp car cheating? | No, you're right. It's not cheating cuz that's not even a race. The other car would never win, it's not a level playing field.
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10-04-2009, 10:36 PM
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#47 | | I STILL don't get it
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Originally Posted by penner2k Lets look at this from another point of view. Lets say an athlete was nearly 50 years old. His testosterone levels are obviously gonna be lower then lets say a 19 year old athlete. This means it takes longer for him to recover from a game and to keep up his strength. This means its nearly impossible to stay competitive against the younger athletes. Is it still cheating if he is taking drugs to bring his hormone levels up to a normal level? | I understand your point of view and I agree that it's in a grey area. However, once again, the key difference is "enhancement." Steroids enhances ones performance. The drug you're talking about "restores." Steroids gives an edge to an athletes performance, whereas the latter only levels the playing field.
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10-04-2009, 11:00 PM
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I also thought Schumacher was a billionaire and I'm pretty sure I read he was?
I'm not a fan of Woods; actually I hate him, but good for him because he deserves it. He's taken the PGA and golf in general to the next level.
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10-05-2009, 06:31 AM
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#49 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by 1337 I understand your point of view and I agree that it's in a grey area. However, once again, the key difference is "enhancement." Steroids enhances ones performance. The drug you're talking about "restores." Steroids gives an edge to an athletes performance, whereas the latter only levels the playing field. | Actually that is where you are wrong. Andro (which is what McGwire is getting in shit for taking even though it was legal at the time) doesnt really boost your testosterone levels all that much. Someone in their 40's would most likely be a high normal level for a younger person. McGwire is also 46.
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10-05-2009, 08:45 AM
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#50 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Dude, it's laser eye surgery. It only makes you "see" better, not hit the ball harder or further.
A baseball or basketball player could take the same surgery to see the baseball or hoop better and I doubt any athlete in the world would have any qualms with that.
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