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Old 10-04-2009, 09:28 PM   #1
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Exclamation Another scam by Jiffy Lube and EZ Lube!!

selling engine flush, fuel system cleaning and transmission flush,
causing engine to die
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:42 PM   #2
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this reporter looks like a fag and like a rat too
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:52 PM   #3
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Damn good thing i do most of the maintenance and repairs myself.
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im not suprised at all actually
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so the fuel injector cleaner talked about in the first vid is bad for the car.

this is the same as the STP fuel injector cleaner liquids right?
http://www.stp.com/fuel_scfict.php

never knew these were detrimental..
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Whats wrong with a tranny flush?
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:57 PM   #9
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so the fuel injector cleaner talked about in the first vid is bad for the car.

this is the same as the STP fuel injector cleaner liquids right?
http://www.stp.com/fuel_scfict.php

never knew these were detrimental..
yea STP has terrible reputation.

it contains kerosine(jet fuel), which cleans out the carbon pretty well but also damages the metal really badly.
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Whats wrong with a tranny flush?
looks like something to do with the machine?
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These places will continue to rip off their customers because the majority of them don't know anything about automobiles. More services performed = more profit. Wait, nevermind.. they said they were taking steps to minimize these problems
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:21 AM   #12
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shit somebody should sue the manufacture thats producing these detergents. Whether its for your fuel injector or for your engine.

Fuck i used to put in fuel system/injector cleaner every once in awhile



Did a engine fluh when i first got the car



now whats wrong with transmission flush?
i know for manual you dont have to do the flush, simply drain it and top up.

Automatic on the other hand needs a flush which requires roughly 10-12 L of oil in order to completely push out the remaining dirty oil thats trapped in the torque converter. Simply bleeding it will not have the same result


Lordco, canadian tires sells all these detergents....they should be removed from the shelf
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:17 AM   #13
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Whats wrong with a tranny flush?
Same reason why you shouldn't flush anything in an older car. Flushing breaks off buildup that clogs openings.
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Same reason why you shouldn't flush anything in an older car. Flushing breaks off buildup that clogs openings.
this is what a mechanic said about my old car as well. he told me to drain/fill and leave it alone if it's not doing anything wrong. pretty much have to drop the pan and clean out the screen, etc. afterwards if you still want to do a complete flush otherwise all the crap/buildup will clog up everything
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^does this apply to manual cars too? for the tranny flush that is
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^does this apply to manual cars too? for the tranny flush that is

i don't think so. don't quote me on that though.
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this is what a mechanic said about my old car as well. he told me to drain/fill and leave it alone if it's not doing anything wrong. pretty much have to drop the pan and clean out the screen, etc. afterwards if you still want to do a complete flush otherwise all the crap/buildup will clog up everything
but if you drain the ATF and fill it from the top, there are still old fluid in the lines and torque converter...as soon as you drive it again, you will cross contaminate the new fluid with old one.

I still think complete flush is necessary but I didn't know that machine can hurt the car. Even dealership does the complete flush if you ask them.
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^does this apply to manual cars too? for the tranny flush that is
manual cars aren't like automatic.
all you need to do is open the drain plug and get rid of oil fluid and fill up with the new one.
the MTF is not circulating to torque converter or anything...because it's a manual
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apparently, I was told not to flush my tranny fluid for the Acura TL.

its recommened to do a drain and fill.
some people had their's flushed and soon their tranny broke down.
And that is for the Automatics I believe.
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shit
but i thought a lot of dealerships uses machines to flush it out as well during tranny oil change
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i think most dealerships also offer engine/transmission flush service.
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Service garages being dishonest? Noooooo... can't be.
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Most of them do, however not all transmissions are suitable for the flush process.. it depends on the transmission model. Also the age of the transmission, older transmission especially those with lifetime transmission, a lot of the time is held together by the varnish.. if you flush it, it dies.

Ideally the shop one goes to is familiar with the car model and most importantly transmission model and use it only when it is absolutely necessary.

I would akin this to enemas, it might be useful in some cases, but no trained medical professional would give everyone who walk through the door one indiscriminately.

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i think most dealerships also offer engine/transmission flush service.
my consipiracy theories are running rampant again... maybe the stealerships are in on it as well.

for example for my vw, the stealerships have "hot oil flush" as part of the service schedule, and is quite expensive, despite the fact my maintenance manual makes no mention that i require it

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