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thumper 10-20-2009 10:03 AM

just curious but what was the last turbocharged toyota built (not diesel)? mr2 and supra?

too_slow 10-20-2009 10:09 AM

Toyota Caldina? I think it had a 2.4 turbo engine, or it might have been a 3SGTE thing.. not sure..

J-Chow 10-20-2009 10:11 AM

I believe the last turbocharged toyota, was the 2007 Toyota Caldina, which is unavailable over here.

hk20000 10-20-2009 10:46 AM

The Yaris in Japan is still offered in Turbo trim I think. If the Vitz turbo lived on anyway.

Found it: http://toyota.jp/customize/vitz/trdturbom/index.html

+Kardboard+ 10-20-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Chow (Post 6643889)
I believe the last turbocharged toyota, was the 2007 Toyota Caldina, which is unavailable over here.

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Originally Posted by too_slow (Post 6643885)
Toyota Caldina? I think it had a 2.4 turbo engine, or it might have been a 3SGTE thing.. not sure..

The Caldina GT-Four, specifically. Mmmm.... GT-Four.... :)

hk20000 10-20-2009 11:13 AM

hmmm AWD.

thumper 10-28-2009 06:13 AM

well, here is more speculation on the subaru variant:


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Confirmed: Bigger, Badder Subaru “216A” : Your online JDM magazine

Just as soon as the Toyota FT-86 was born and came to this world at the Tokyo Motor show, it’s bigger, badder twin brother is about to hit the stage.
http://www.7tune.com/wp-content/uplo...216A_587_1.jpg

It’s well known that Subaru and Toyota have been in the same bed developing the FT-86 but one question that remains on everyone’s lips is how, if they are developing the same car, can the two be different? Well it’s emerged that Subaru has been busy waving their wand over the 086A/FT-86 and is going to bring some very Subaru style magic to the table.

http://www.7tune.com/wp-content/uplo...216A_587_2.jpg



The biggest news to come out of all this is that rumors of the car being turbo and all wheel drive are now in fact confirmed. However staff close to the Subaru development side of the project have revealed is that the first thing to differ will be the codes which the cars will be known by. While the version of the FT-86 to go on sale in Japan will be known by the code 086A and in the US and Europe as the 087A and 088A respectively, the Fuji Heavy Industries version will be branded as the 216A. This is to “clearly distinguish between the Toyota and Subaru version of the car”. Things get juicier from there though with the confirmation of what many have been suspecting all along. The car will be driven by a 2.0 liter turbo charged powerplant feeding power to all four wheels. This will either come in the flavor of a revised, lower power but more efficient 250ps and 34.0kg/m EJ20 from the Impreza 2.0 GT or the EJ20 Turbo from the current Impreza WRX STi pumping out 308ps and 43.0kg/m of torque. Our guess is the latter may well be used for an STi version of the car down the track. No pun intended.


http://www.7tune.com/wp-content/uplo...216A_587_3.jpg
Body wise, the the Subaru version will be bigger and badder but at the same time tipping the scales to the tune of around 100kg more than the 086A. This seems to be a reasonable weight gain seeing that 4WD has been added and the dimensions have been increased in the region of 20mm all around. Total height and width will go from 1260mm to 1280mm and 1760 to 1780mm respectively. Wheelbase and total lengths have also been extended, with overall length reaching 4180mm and the wheelbase gaining 30 to 50mm, up to around 2600~mm from 2570mm. This is almost spot on to the current Impreza’s 2620mm so the possibility of them sharing parts or being very similar is undoubtedly high. The final distinguishing factor between the two? Well that will be the price. The increased performance, all wheel drive and pumped body will be adding around half a million yen to the tag bringing the car to around 3 million yen come 2011. This is not only to cover the extras over the Toyota but also to distinguish itself from the FT-86 version.

Words: Peter Horniak
Images: BestCar


68style 10-28-2009 08:09 AM

Despite being a Toyota guy, I'm more interested in the Subaru version just because of the AWD and turbo..... I am worried thought because man... maybe it's just me, but Subaru's colours for their cars are freaking terrible... like the STI... 3 years now all you can get is 2 grays a black a white a red and that played out rally blue?! I mean switch it up a little, none of the colours is "interesting" at all... need to follow Audi's model and get some pearl navy blues and things like that in there........

+Kardboard+ 10-28-2009 08:12 AM

It's the lovechild of an Accord and a Genesis Coupé...

....or some miscellaneous Chinese design. :haha:

death_blossom 10-28-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FS1992EG (Post 6634622)
What's the point of Toyota hyping the "New AE86" if there not going to release it in North America and Europe?

who says we aren't? last year, some project people contacted the owner of Club4AG (an american board) to get input on what the community wanted on the 086a.

RabidRat 10-28-2009 12:05 PM

ok i'll be the first to say it - this subie is going to be my next car lol

hk20000 10-28-2009 08:23 PM

Subaru is going to say "it's the reborn of SVX!"

68style 10-28-2009 11:47 PM

^
Needs rainproof half windows

boogabooga 10-29-2009 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by boss604 (Post 6624373)
front = rx8
rear = accord

wtf?:confused:

RabidRat 10-29-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 6658432)
^
Needs rainproof half windows

haha i never got those. what was the point?

thumper 11-17-2009 09:44 PM

some more detail on the subaru version from http://www.insideline.com/subaru/toy...ota-ft-86.html

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Toyobaru: New Details on Subaru's Version of the Toyota FT-86

Published Nov 17, 2009

TOKYO — It is already common knowledge that the powertrain and chassis of the Toyota FT-86 showcar, the joint Toyota-Subaru project, was built by Subaru, but no word has officially been released about the automakers' final plans for this collaboration. And not a word has been said about Subaru's intention for this setup.

Inside Line has learned that there will be a Subaru variant of this car coming sometime in 2011. It will share the Toyota FT-86's naturally aspirated 2.0-liter flat-4, but we hear that output will be raised to approximately 250 horsepower (Toyota's car is rumored to be around 200). Subaru's version will feature all-wheel drive, so more power will be necessary to carry the added weight. Both cars will be outfitted with a six-speed manual gearbox.

IL has also learned that Subaru's car will be slightly larger than the Toyota thanks to a stretched platform.

Because of its larger size, extra power and all-wheel drive, expect the Subaru to come in around $30,000, about $5,000 more than the Toyota. This keeps the two coupes from directly competing with each other, and from potentially stealing sales from the Subaru Impreza WRX.

Inside Line says: Is it any surprise that Subaru is looking to add all-wheel drive and a little extra power to the FT-86? The real question is: will it be a better sport coupe? — Mak Tokuyama, Correspondent


shenmecar 11-18-2009 12:04 PM

I want to see the STi version of the Subaru variant!

!e.lo_ 11-19-2009 07:46 AM

i watched the video on gt5, looks pretty good! sound.. well that can be taken care of.
i want one in octane blue pearl or frozen grey metallic =]

P5-stock 11-19-2009 10:11 PM

its not a true 86 without its anime counterpart

optiblue 11-20-2009 06:03 PM

I like it!


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