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ToveriII 10-05-2009 10:44 PM

What our tax money is paying for
 
Please tell me why the money I pay for taxes is going towards bullets that is killing Afghanistan's citizens. We are all essentially murderers.

We've spent a fuckload of money from the tax we pay on Olympics. Why are teachers told to promote Olympics and active living lifestyle regarding Olympics when the school funding of schools has been cut?

Just wanted to shed my insight, and would like to know what you guys think about the current situation we are facing.

Dan_Guy 10-05-2009 10:48 PM

stop paying taxes and go change the world
instead of chilling on the internet.

CRS 10-05-2009 10:50 PM

Ugh, how the hell is that insight?

Just what insight have you brought? Everything you said is so vague and broad that it has absolutely no depth to it at all, let alone having any "insight".

Why are we paying money to find the war in Afghanistan? Simple. Because Canadian troops have not seen actual combat since fuck all forever. The last war we were actively involved in was decades ago and the now, all the guys who are trying to new guys do not have any combat experience. And this is a BAD thing. If shit were to hit the fan, would you want someone who has been in the shit teaching you or some guy who only has theories about what is going to happen.

It is dumbasses like you who think they provide "insight" who are the real idiots. Life isn't all happy, loving and caring. Things like war, terrorism and genocide happen. This is why we need guys to be experienced enough to teach and be actually useful if something were to actually happen. This isn't saying that I want something to happen or that it even will happen. Just think, if things were to go south, what would you want?

As for the Olympics, this has been covered so much. Go take your hippy ass elsewhere and let the rest of us live our lives. Seriously. Fuck off.

You make me hate freedom.

Nightwalker 10-05-2009 10:55 PM

We had every reason to go into Afghanistan, unfortunately messes are a lot harder to get out of than get into.

Teachers should suck it up in the classroom, it's no place for a political agenda and the Olympics weren't the only reason there's been funding cuts. There's no stopping the Olympics anyway, so make the most of it. Great excuse to promote an active living lifestyle, I hope they get all the kids pumped on eating right and playing sports.

ZhangFei 10-05-2009 10:57 PM

because Canada supports zionism?

ToveriII 10-05-2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6623229)
Ugh, how the hell is that insight?

Just what insight have you brought? Everything you said is so vague and broad that it has absolutely no depth to it at all, let alone having any "insight".

Why are we paying money to find the war in Afghanistan? Simple. Because Canadian troops have not seen actual combat since fuck all forever. The last war we were actively involved in was decades ago and the now, all the guys who are trying to new guys do not have any combat experience. And this is a BAD thing. If shit were to hit the fan, would you want someone who has been in the shit teaching you or some guy who only has theories about what is going to happen.

It is dumbasses like you who think they provide "insight" who are the real idiots. Life isn't all happy, loving and caring. Things like war, terrorism and genocide happen. This is why we need guys to be experienced enough to teach and be actually useful if something were to actually happen. This isn't saying that I want something to happen or that it even will happen. Just think, if things were to go south, what would you want?

As for the Olympics, this has been covered so much. Go take your hippy ass elsewhere and let the rest of us live our lives. Seriously. Fuck off.

You make me hate freedom.

so you think im a dumbass because I can point out simple things such as paying taxes for things like guns, and funding the olympics instead of looking to help homeless people?

When was I asking you to discuss the matter, I didn't ask for you to stop living your life normally

providing insight on a matter doesn't need depth? I'm not sure what you mean because all it was was an insight to what's actually going on and how some people can't seem to see it as they are corrupt with technology.

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Originally Posted by Nightwalker
Teachers should suck it up in the classroom, it's no place for a political agenda and the Olympics weren't the only reason there's been funding cuts. There's no stopping the Olympics anyway, so make the most of it. Great excuse to promote an active living lifestyle, I hope they get all the kids pumped on eating right and playing sports.

They are cutting COSTS from SPORTS in schools. If they're going to promote healthy lifestyles and promote olympics, why would they cut costs on SPORTS?

misteranswer 10-05-2009 10:58 PM

Because we have an obligation in NATO. Would you rather Canada withdraw from NATO? Or would you prefer we act like the French?

CRS 10-05-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tatja (Post 6623248)
so you think im a dumbass because I can point out simple things such as paying taxes for things like guns, and funding the olympics instead of looking to help homeless people?

When was I asking you to discuss the matter, I didn't ask for you to stop living your life normally

providing insight on a matter doesn't need depth? I'm not sure what you mean because all it was was an insight to what's actually going on and how some people can't seem to see it as they are corrupt with technology.

You have to be a fake account. Point out the obvious is STUPID and requires absolutely NO insight or intelligence. So yes, that would make you a dumbass.

So you would you rather our tax dollars go to the homeless and if shit were to ever happen, would you have those homeless people we invested our tax dollars in turn into superheroes and blow the shit out of the people who are bombing/murdering/raping/every fucking evil thing you can think of to you and your family? Yeah, that is EXACTLY what I'm going to do. Invest in the homeless so they can turn into superheroes and form the justice lead and beat the shit out of the invaders who are killing us.

That is a MUCH better idea than investing in guns/training for professional soldiers who DEDICATE THEIR LIVES to help and defend our country. And yes that is for RIGHT NOW and in the FUTURE. They are PROACTIVE in training. Something you would know nothing about.

Speaking of which, just what the fuck would you say to the families of the fallen soldiers? Would you tell them that they lost their lives for nothing? That they were murders and deserved to die? Go fucking kill yourself. Like go right now. I'm not even kidding. People like you disgust me.

It is one thing to have a different opinion but another to be a complete fucking moron.

simsimi1004 10-05-2009 11:08 PM

have you ever used the ambulance, police, firefighter, library, school, translink, the road? why is my tax money going towards ur benefits too? can the amount of taxes you pay afford all that service? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY is our tax money helping you?
WHY WHY WHY WHY
WHY is my tax money help build infrastructure that allows you to post shit like this?

ToyotaPowah 10-05-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tatja (Post 6623248)
so you think im a dumbass because I can point out simple things such as paying taxes for things like guns, and funding the olympics instead of looking to help homeless people?

When was I asking you to discuss the matter, I didn't ask for you to stop living your life normally

providing insight on a matter doesn't need depth? I'm not sure what you mean because all it was was an insight to what's actually going on and how some people can't seem to see it as they are corrupt with technology.


They are cutting COSTS from SPORTS in schools. If they're going to promote healthy lifestyles and promote olympics, why would they cut costs on SPORTS?

WTF are you talking about? Yeah, great insight! I AM AGAINST <insert event> BECAUSE OF <insert vague reason>. Maybe you're right. We should pull funding from everything and put it all towards the homeless problem. Too bad it wouldn't do a damn thing.

MR_BIGGS 10-05-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6623262)
You have to be a fake account. Point out the obvious is STUPID and requires absolutely NO insight or intelligence. So yes, that would make you a dumbass.

So you would you rather our tax dollars go to the homeless and if shit were to ever happen, would you have those homeless people we invested our tax dollars in turn into superheroes and blow the shit out of the people who are bombing/murdering/raping/every fucking evil thing you can think of to you and your family? Yeah, that is EXACTLY what I'm going to do. Invest in the homeless so they can turn into superheroes and form the justice lead and beat the shit out of the invaders who are killing us.
That is a MUCH better idea than investing in guns/training for professional soldiers who DEDICATE THEIR LIVES to help and defend our country. And yes that is for RIGHT NOW and in the FUTURE. They are PROACTIVE in training. Something you would know nothing about.

Oh man the bold underline is epic.....should be a signature..

And I agree....let's put our tax money towards the homeless...:thumbsup: great idea...:rolleyes:

Nightwalker 10-05-2009 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tatja (Post 6623248)
They are cutting COSTS from SPORTS in schools. If they're going to promote healthy lifestyles and promote olympics, why would they cut costs on SPORTS?

The Olympics aren't the single reason for cuts and where the cuts are made is irrelevant. If that's the case it was obviously better for the bottom line and keeping other things going. It's not like they're pulling PE from the curriculum, I guess extracurricular programs will have to do a bit more fending for themselves.

Are you saying that teachers shouldn't promote healthy lifestyles out of spite? What kind of reasoning is that?

Nocardia 10-05-2009 11:27 PM

Clearly there is a shortage of money.

The next time you hear of something being cut back, ask yourself if this is justified. Should we cut critical hospital services instead? Should we cut back even more on teachers/education instead?

Government shouldn't have to promote healthy lifestyles if parents would just smarten up and do things for themselves, like play ball with their kid or go for a walk.

I heard just under 50cents of every dollar is spent on healthcare, would you not agree that amount is a lot? no? what if you or a family member was sick?

There will never be enough, so its up to the people you elect to decide how to best spend the money we do have.

Blinky 10-05-2009 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by misteranswer (Post 6623250)
Because we have an obligation in NAFTA. Would you rather Canada withdraw from NAFTA? Or would you prefer we act like the French?

Oh RS, how I <3 thee!

... or maybe facepalm would be more appropriate.

Lomac 10-06-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tatja (Post 6623216)
Please tell me why the money I pay for taxes is going towards bullets that is killing Afghanistan's citizens. We are all essentially murderers.

In war, innocents get killed. It's a very sad fact of life, but a fact of life it still is. There's currently no way to wage a war, or even a peace keeping mission, without the risk of potentially injuring or killing an innocent bystander. That said, it's not like we're in Afghanistan with the sole purpose of killing innocent citizens with bullets paid for by taxes. That's just absolutely ludicrous to even consider.

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Originally Posted by tatja (Post 6623216)
We've spent a fuckload of money from the tax we pay on Olympics. Why are teachers told to promote Olympics and active living lifestyle regarding Olympics when the school funding of schools has been cut?

Budget cuts are happening across the board, from health care to schooling, from science grants to environmental studies. They trim the excess fat where they can, and take out what they feel is a relatively safe amount from other places that can probably do without the cash. Fighting the forest fires in BC alone cost the government $400 million, of which only $100 million was originally allotted for. That means they have to come up with the other $300 million from somewhere else in the budget. The H1N1 vaccine that they're giving out for free is going to cost the government $80 million. That money will have to come from somewhere as well. As well, the all-day kindergarten classes that they're putting into effect will also need to be paid some how.

As for having teachers promote active living styles... well, it's not entirely the teachers responsibility to do that. That should fall under the parents responsibility. And even if the budget is cut for physical activities within schools, how much money does it cost to go outside for a single class a week and learn outside in the sun? How much does it cost the school to suggest that the kids bring in healthy food to share with the class for a potluck lunch? My schools never had an issue with running out of money when it came to teaching about active lifestyles because most of it was stuff that could be done for free.

StylinRed 10-06-2009 12:22 AM

god CRS are u still on that bullshit about joining wars just so our troops can get training..... thats the most fucked up thing ive heard and its still fucked up the second time u puked it out



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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6623262)
Speaking of which, just what the fuck would you say to the families of the fallen soldiers? Would you tell them that they lost their lives for nothing? That they were murders and deserved to die? Go fucking kill yourself. Like go right now. I'm not even kidding. People like you disgust me.

that's exactly true though.... they did lose their lives for nothing and they are murderers... you see the truth, thats why you mentioned it. you're just too weak to face it and came up with some mystical bs about protecting us from ''an unseen evil danger''... its like u seriously think there are super-villains thats why you want to train some Avengers to take on The Red Skull if he ever so happens to appear 'sometime in the near future'... maybe that'll happen on December 2012

jesus christ throw your tin-foil hat on and go back to your pipe





on a serious note though, we went in to help find Bin Laden... then it turned into a battle to get rid of Al-Qaeda... and then its about getting rid of the Taliban... and then it was about helping the new government get settled so they can care for themselves (and that govt. is more corrupt than Iran is perceived to be)... and then its back to taking out the Taliban... what next? there's no real reason to be there anymore other than to help out the States and they'd be better off economically if they just cut their losses and left

Lomac 10-06-2009 12:36 AM

OP, if you really wanted to spark a debate about tax money and budget cuts, you should have tried to talk about something like the following instead:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1303462/

Ulic Qel-Droma 10-06-2009 01:58 AM

hey i have an idea...


























SHUT THE FUCK UP.

yson_3 10-06-2009 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 6623410)
hey i have an idea...


[SHUT THE FUCK UP.


Boo to cop-out response. Ulic's responses circa 2005 were way more epic.

Ulic Qel-Droma 10-06-2009 04:30 AM

it wasn't a cop out, it was big and bold, I brought it to the next level.

!SG 10-06-2009 05:09 AM

North American Free Trade Agreement?


you musta meant NATO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by misteranswer (Post 6623250)
Because we have an obligation in NAFTA. Would you rather Canada withdraw from NAFTA? Or would you prefer we act like the French?


misteranswer 10-06-2009 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !SG (Post 6623438)
North American Free Trade Agreement?


you musta meant NATO.

Yea...that's right. Oops, haha.

Mugen EvOlutioN 10-06-2009 07:31 AM

taxes are gay period

hotjoint 10-06-2009 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN (Post 6623485)
taxes are gay period

:werd: just ask method man :lol

CRS 10-06-2009 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 6623372)
god CRS are u still on that bullshit about joining wars just so our troops can get training..... thats the most fucked up thing ive heard and its still fucked up the second time u puked it out





that's exactly true though.... they did lose their lives for nothing and they are murderers... you see the truth, thats why you mentioned it. you're just too weak to face it and came up with some mystical bs about protecting us from ''an unseen evil danger''... its like u seriously think there are super-villains thats why you want to train some Avengers to take on The Red Skull if he ever so happens to appear 'sometime in the near future'... maybe that'll happen on December 2012

jesus christ throw your tin-foil hat on and go back to your pipe





on a serious note though, we went in to help find Bin Laden... then it turned into a battle to get rid of Al-Qaeda... and then its about getting rid of the Taliban... and then it was about helping the new government get settled so they can care for themselves (and that govt. is more corrupt than Iran is perceived to be)... and then its back to taking out the Taliban... what next? there's no real reason to be there anymore other than to help out the States and they'd be better off economically if they just cut their losses and left

Please, explain how it is fucked up? Real combat scenarios are FAR better experiences and prepares you far better than "mock/training scenarios". I don't know about you, but I would much rather have an army that has fought in a war before than a brand new army that has only see "training scenarios".

And lastly, if you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand infront of them. You are the one that is too weak to face the truth that war and defence is something we need to face. I would be very happy if the world were all good and no bad shit were to ever happen. Unfortunately this is not the case. Hiding behind a facade that the world is good is just ignorant. Would you rather be prepared for something that is guaranteed like war or would you rather think the world is good and nothing bad happens. Ever.


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