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metal 10-15-2009 01:22 AM

Still on the Job, but at Half the Pay
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/14/bu...pagewanted=all

Good article, give it a read ~

slammer111 10-15-2009 04:04 AM

Hey, at least he has a job. Though I'm surprised captains in that airline only make $70k. Look at Cathay Pacific, Singapore Air..

Even here, several friends I know have had to take pay cuts (though nowhere near as drastic; more like 10%) to stay employed. Gotta do what you gotta do to survive.

asian_XL 10-15-2009 05:24 AM

I got 35% cut this year, no benefit and no salary increase next yr, and yes, I will leave the fucking shit hole once the economy gets better. Fuck skytrain

Sky_2000 10-15-2009 05:30 AM

Only people with no skill and balls take a pay cuts.

MG1 10-15-2009 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfived (Post 6636104)
Only people with no skill and balls take a pay cuts.

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but that's a pretty harsh statement. Not a very fair one at that. People out there are hurting and you make light of the situation. Some people have no choice. I think it takes more balls to take a pay cut in order to keep working and support a family during tough times. The situation here is not nearly as bad as in the US. Anyway, just my 2 bits.

BTW, take a pay cut............. not take a pay cuts.


god bless

hotjoint 10-15-2009 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 6636111)
I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but that's a pretty harsh statement. Not a very fair one at that. People out there are hurting and you make light of the situation. Some people have no choice. I think it takes more balls to take a pay cut in order to keep working and support a family during tough times. The situation here is not nearly as bad as in the US. Anyway, just my 2 bits.

BTW, take a pay cut............. not take a pay cuts.


god bless

:werd: I'm fortunate to not have had to take a pay cut. I know tons of people that got a pay cut or were laid off. Tough times. Be happy if you're employed

Durrann1984 10-15-2009 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfived (Post 6636104)
Only people with no skill and balls take a pay cuts.

i agree with civic that was pretty harsh

even ppl that are highly skilled have to take pay cuts or get laid off

its not by choice

q0192837465 10-15-2009 09:25 AM

I'm having a hard time finding a job, just be glad u'r still working

Mancini 10-15-2009 09:37 AM

The demotion, the loss of command, the cut in pay...have diminished Mr. Lawlor, 34, in his own eyes...adding that his wife does not want to be married to a pilot with so little earning power.

Seriously? Talk about your penis being tied up in your wallet.

achiam 10-15-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfived (Post 6636104)
Only people with no skill and balls take a pay cuts.

No. I once had my pay cut by 40% but stayed on F/T as it was still enough to live on. When the firm recovered my pay was restored.

CRS 10-15-2009 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancini (Post 6636263)
The demotion, the loss of command, the cut in pay...have diminished Mr. Lawlor, 34, in his own eyes...adding that his wife does not want to be married to a pilot with so little earning power.

Seriously? Talk about your penis being tied up in your wallet.

Unfortunately, that is the reality for a lot of people. Especially when you have 4 kids to feed and a wife that makes more money than you. Not saying that that is a bad thing or something that is wrong, I'm just saying, in the traditional sense of a family, the man is the bringing food to the table.

I would seriously feel demoralized with my pay was cut in half. Then again, I would expect my wife to stand by my side and fight through it with me. The article seems to go back and forth on this matter. It contradicts itself a few times and alludes to things that are contrary to what it said before.

Chuck Norris 10-15-2009 10:07 AM

In terms of % I think I took a big hit. About 70% of my wage last year was not given to me this year. Thank God for base plus commission. If it wasn't for base I think I'd be making worse than minimum wage.

MG1 10-15-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancini (Post 6636263)
The demotion, the loss of command, the cut in pay...have diminished Mr. Lawlor, 34, in his own eyes...adding that his wife does not want to be married to a pilot with so little earning power.

Seriously? Talk about your penis being tied up in your wallet.

Solution. Bang the wife 50% more often and 50% harder and then say, "There. I'm still 100% what I used to be."


Math correction.......... bang 100% more.


I just think the editor or reporter got it wrong.

q0192837465 10-15-2009 10:34 AM

Love is being tied to money, as it has always been. A lot of marriages nowadays are more like business relationships. When everything goes well, then it's all good. When things go bad for one party, the other party will go find a new business partner. It's sad but true.

Durrann1984 10-15-2009 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by q0192837465 (Post 6636336)
Love is being tied to money, as it has always been. A lot of marriages nowadays are more like business relationships. When everything goes well, then it's all good. When things go bad for one party, the other party will go find a new business partner. It's sad but true.

so true haha

you! 10-15-2009 01:22 PM

damn i'd prob kill my boss once he tells me he's cutting my pay in half:(

pyro123 10-15-2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfived (Post 6636104)
Only people with no skill and balls take a pay cuts.

How big of a pair do you need to have to put your family's life on the line with the rash decisions you make. The guys 10yr old and younger children can't earn for themselves so if he tries to leave for another job that would pay him more and doesn't get it, the family starves.

That's balls for taking the humiliation and staying with the job to support his family IMHO.

GLOW 10-15-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfived (Post 6636104)
Only people with no skill and balls take a pay cuts.

:rolleyes: typical RS response

Senna4ever 10-15-2009 07:11 PM

Is it really that bad in the US? Seems like a lot of people are hurting....we're lucky to live in Canada where it's not as bad. I'd take a reasonable pay cut to stay employed though.

MG1 10-15-2009 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6637015)
I'd take a reasonable pay cut to stay employed though.

You'd figure that would be the logical thing to do, but taking a pay cut to save jobs is not an option for some unions. Sad, isn't it?

So much for brotherhood and sisterhood.

Anyway getting off topic, again.

Senna4ever 10-15-2009 08:23 PM

Those CEO's of mega corporations should forfeit their multi-million dollar salaries/bonuses and do what the CEO of Japan Airlines did.

http://digg.com/business_finance/Jap...han_Pilots_VID

http://www.glenntilton.com/newsartic...ilots-cnn.html

MG1 10-15-2009 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6637137)
Those CEO's of mega corporations should forfeit their multi-million dollar salaries/bonuses and do what the CEO of Japan Airlines did.

Right on. In Japan, the CEO's take their jobs very seriously. When they fail, they fail all the people under them and vice versa. They feel responsible for the welfare of the workers. It's understandable, because in that culture, your job is your life.

In our society, a job is a job and nothing more. I like what we have here (to an extent).

zulutango 10-16-2009 07:30 AM

I'm sorry to see that his pay was cut...but their combined income is over $70,000 US...and that is not exactly starvation wages...specially in the US with way lower taxes and th e baility to cliam stuff like your mortgage interest payments etc. The way he is talking I would not feel safe flying with him...specially as a Captain. How about finding a second job for all the down time that he has? That should help his wife's ego.

Mugen EvOlutioN 10-16-2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfived (Post 6636104)
Only people with no skill and balls take a pay cuts.

:Orly::Orly::Orly:

MG1 10-16-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zulutango (Post 6637625)
I'm sorry to see that his pay was cut...but their combined income is over $70,000 US...and that is not exactly starvation wages...specially in the US with way lower taxes and th e baility to cliam stuff like your mortgage interest payments etc. The way he is talking I would not feel safe flying with him...specially as a Captain. How about finding a second job for all the down time that he has? That should help his wife's ego.

I think his story was just one example of what is happening to middle and upper middle class people in the US. It's about how his pride is hurt - a fall from grace. I don't think he was whining. The people who wrote the article are sensationalizing. I highly doubt what his wife said was word for word. It could even be what he thinks his wife is feeling or thinking. People in his shoes and others close to his situation will read this article and identify with this person. If the current economic situation continues and things don't get any better, I'm sure he will find another job. When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

It is a sad story, nonetheless.


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