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bossxx 10-28-2009 11:36 AM

What a fucking joke. They are approaching this the wrong way. I feel like im in the same boat as 7seven. When I go dt and have a night out with a few ppl I can say that prob 95% of the time our drinks = at least double the cost of our food. Unless they significantly decrease the cost of the alcohol (which will never happen) I can't see this going thru. Especially to the higher end establishments like mentioned in the article.

They should base it on # of drinks like someone mentioned and use like a ratio or something. For every 'meal' you are allowed 6 drinks. If you count a bottle of wine as 3 glasses I think that would suffice.

I am not incredibly familiar with restaurant business ownership but from the sounds of it there are a couple different tiers of what your business serves primarily. If it serves primarily food then they fall into this category but if it is primarily a pub then maybe it won't? I wonder how significant the cost difference in licensing is? Maybe places like earls, keg, joeys, cactus club etc will have to change to a 'pub' type establishment on paper to satisfy these new laws they are trying to get. But just thinking, then you will run into the problem of having ppl under 19 in your establishment which of course is a big no no.. haha fuck what a headache!

Why doesn't the City of Vancouver take a look at what other cities are doing to combat such problems?? Do they ever do that? just wondering if anyone knows. Seems like they are off in their own little world of ideas.

Manic! 10-28-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 6657064)
I think BC has the most absolutely rediculous liquor laws in North America.

I think Utah takes that one.

winson604 10-28-2009 11:57 AM

Talk about screwing over restaurants. HST is coming next year and that will hurt them and since a lot of places rely on boos for more profit or in some cases profit period this is a double wammy.

q0192837465 10-28-2009 12:30 PM

I bet their intention is to prevent drunk tourists to terrorize the streets during the Olympics and send the wrong message to the world that BC has loads of drunktards

taylor192 10-28-2009 12:34 PM

Lets take for example my old watering hole: The Regale Beagle

We would want to go for just drinks, yet they are required by law that we purchase food. No problem, we'll order some nachos and a couple pitchers. Most other evening patrons end up doing the same.

So this law is meant to catch places like the Regale Beagle. That sucks, cause we've already started hitting another bar to get around the food issue, and would probably never go back if they enforced this law.

Instead of creating a new law, how about just enforcing the current law. A police officer was served just drinks, no food. That can be fined. Done.

TRD Rs200 10-28-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzystar (Post 6657194)
fuck, I'm really starting to hate BC,

every fucking piece of legislation handed down intended to make any industry better makes it worse, and strangles every businessman to death until they close shop, so they can plow everything down and turn it into condos for old people, I mean... look at Victoria.


+1 BOOOOO

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgill (Post 6657264)
city of vancouver are boneheads
take for example the new robson square / ice rink renovations.
there were plans for a clam shell type structure

and not to mention Richmond, putting plants in the middle of NO3 road is the best idea EVER!!! FAIL!

Great68 10-28-2009 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idga-f (Post 6657340)

They should base it on # of drinks like someone mentioned and use like a ratio or something. For every 'meal' you are allowed 6 drinks. If you count a bottle of wine as 3 glasses I think that would suffice.

Or how about getting rid of this stupid licensing scheme altogether.

Serve them all the booze they want, or all the food they want, why does there have to be this distinction between the "type" of establishment?

I never went anywhere in europe that forced me to buy food if I just wanted to drink, why the hell do we make it so difficult over here?

blum2001 10-28-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 6657049)
I'm pretty much at restaurants like Joeys, Glowbal & Cactus daily after the market close, and my bill is usually always 100% liquor

bullshit.
I know there's a chilli chicken appy in there somewhere! hahaha

Cman333 10-28-2009 03:29 PM

First HST now this. Man, way to try and kill the restaurant industry.

7seven 10-28-2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blum2001 (Post 6657641)
bullshit.
I know there's a chilli chicken appy in there somewhere! hahaha

U just got chilli chicken on the brain cause the bartender ho intro'd u to her chilli chicken on mash creation haha. U'll see a 100% liquor bill tomorrow if I don't have to be on set tomorrow lol
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Tim Budong 10-28-2009 03:44 PM

im sooo against this
my regular watering hole gets inspected almost weekly now. this has been going on for the past two months. they caught them for that dumbass all beer no food thing. guess what..we go back the next day, they throw free food on our table to show inspectors that we have ordered food. Now when i go in, theres free edamame for us when we drink.

regardless, this rule is dumb. especially to those resturants in the DT core like Joeys and Cactus. It doesnt really matter if this is done over that 8hr shift/period. When the olympics get here, places in DT such as globowl will be serving more alcohol to food as the whole damn event is a party. Whether this be a bottle of wine or a round of shots.

either lower liquor prices so this thing can look good or fuck it period

Vansterdam 10-28-2009 03:57 PM

The city is imposing an annual $3-a-seat tax on all city restaurants, raising money to hire food police who will make sure restaurants comply.



whack!

Meowjin 10-28-2009 04:05 PM

is this a city or provincal thing?

PiuYi 10-28-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgill (Post 6657264)
city of vancouver are boneheads
take for example the new robson square / ice rink renovations.
there were plans for a clam shell type structure
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...tcav/North.jpg

so they build this with no way to get down there directly from the street
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1854/p9011143.jpg

&then they put up hedges infront of a glass railing
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9...sept2409p1.jpg

&then the bc government does this
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2428/...cec76db5_b.jpg

THATS THE UGLIEST POS IVE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
why does the actual thing look nothing like the drawing lol

and dont even tell me how much that cost.. i seriously might puke :mad:

Nightwalker 10-28-2009 05:34 PM

^ yeah that looks nothing like the concept drawing. Not very pretty.

Glad this isn't province wide! At least I don't really have to worry about it.

impactX 10-28-2009 06:25 PM

So who voted for this piece of shit and for Vision Vancouver:

http://theyrep.com/wp-content/upload...ertson_072.jpg

PiuYi 10-28-2009 08:08 PM

^ i think it was actually gordy campbell who started the Shithole Project

wahyinghung 10-28-2009 08:14 PM

First the HST and now the liquor bylaw......... Vancouver resturants is gonna to be screwed..........

StylinRed 11-23-2009 11:56 PM

UPDATE:

Quote:

Restaurants pleased with revised liquor bylaw
Evan Kelly/Sheila Scott VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) 2009-11-23 22:30
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VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Vancouver City Council has revised a bylaw that put restrictions on the amount of booze a restaurant can sell.

The previous bylaw passed last month said booze and food sales had to be split half and half. Restaurant owners were concerned that an expensive bottle of wine could easily exceed the 50 per cent limit.

Council has decided to remove the policy, but under the new rules restaurants must offer the full menu while booze is being served.

Ian Tostenson from the BC Restaurant and Foodservices Association says the new bylaw will help set apart restaurants and bars. "If you walk into a place and the kitchen is open, and there's food available, it's obviously a restaurant, and that's their standard, and I think it's great."

Tostenson says Vancouver restaurants seem to be pleased with the new rules, especially with the Olympics just a few months away.

Other changes to liquor hours approved last month remain in effect. Restaurant owners can still apply to extend their hours to serve alcohol until 1 a.m. on weekdays and 2 a.m. on weekends.

asahai69 11-24-2009 12:49 AM

thank god

slammer111 11-24-2009 01:00 AM

That works WAY better. And I like how that forces the kitchen to close later too. Nothing worse than getting the munchies at midnight and realize that Last Call already happened.

ps if you hate our current mayor, stop buying Happy Planet juice. He's a co-founder + co-owner.

moomooCow 11-24-2009 02:37 AM

hahahah WOW I've never seen them rectify a problem THAT FAST!!

Guess they must have gotten A LOT of shit for it hahah

Ulic Qel-Droma 11-24-2009 05:16 AM

no, because alcohol is the only legal drug those guys have access to, and everyone likes their legal drugs.

Vansterdam 11-24-2009 06:20 AM

fail turn ok

ws6ta 11-24-2009 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 6657049)
Pretty idiotic if you ask me. I'm pretty much at restaurants like Joeys, Glowbal & Cactus daily after the market close, and my bill is usually always 100% liquor and that goes for all my co-workers and other people I see after the market in these places. Even when I go out for dinner, at best my bill is 80% liquor 20% food.

I'm with you on this 100%!!!

edit: Just realized they already decided to not go through with the changes lol


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