I hate vegetarians and stupid people who whine about dogs being used for food.

[The7even]

Originally Posted by penner2k

This article is by someone that is much more educated and open minded then you.

Yeah, probably true but I'm just venting.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by cococly

Did the OP forget some people are vegetarians due to religous reasons?

Hippo has canine teeth too



Just a thought.

and hippo's also eat meat, your point?

[you!]

shit i want some good meat right now

[PiuYi]

Originally Posted by The7even

Fuck you and your logic.
First off, there are about 1 billion people starving today.
Do you honestly think that those people who would do anything for a loaf of bread have a god damn choice?
Most of us aren't fucking eating your

[insert your version of cute animal here]

because we want to, we do it because we have to.

uhh logically speaking starving ppl shud be the biggest vegetarians out there... they can't afford to eat meat, its too expensive and pricey, they'd keep their goats and cattle for milk and farming

Originally Posted by Blaupunkt69

I've witnessed much more teasing, judging, and preaching from meat-eaters when they find out someone is vegetarian. the guilt trip coming the other way only seems to occur from a defensive standpoint. none of my veggie friends have been pushy or tried to make me feel guilty for my diet - except for when i poach all their vegetarian food (some of that stuff is effin good too).

+1

[versep]

i fucking love meat.

[SkinnyPupp]

Anyone who chooses to become a vegetarian, be it for religious reasons or whatever, is literally living their lives the wrong way. It is scientific proven fact that humans are omnivores. We always have been, and we always will be.

So if you want to live like that, fine. But don't even try to suggest that anyone else should too, or that it is anything other than a drastic alternative to the normal way of life for our species. Because it's not.

[scottsman]

This thread reminds me how much I hate the show Whale Wars.

I hope that boat sinks and all those green peace radicals get eaten by a whale.

the real question is what event lead up to this rant

[tegz]

The only thing good about vegetarians is how good their vaginal fluids smell.

[scottsman]

^ sig worthy.

[TheKingdom2000]

lol. this was actually a really good read..

i agree with you..
but you don't need meat in your diet to get all the essential nutrients. there are vegie alternatives for almost everything in meat.. and in this day in age, there are supplements that you can take..
so you are wrong in a sense that you can't get key nutrients from meat.

otherwise you're bang on.

[AzNightmare]

I agree with everything you said, and your opinion.
Except I believe for a fact that humans are naturally herbivores.

If you look at the human teeth, we actually have teeth with a flat bottom, rather than a carnivore with sharp pointed teeth. (think Lion, Tiger, even dogs etc)

But that being said, humans dominate the earth, and there's no reason why we cannot eat meat if we please to, especially if it's for survival.

Other support that humans are naturally herbivore.
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...-herbivores-2/

[LiquidTurbo]

Originally Posted by The7even

Before I explain why, I'd like to say that I do not hate all dog lovers. I'm a dog lover my self.

Anyway, moving on to vegeterians...

Aside from the fact that you're all retarded and posses the inability to relate to other people, how did you idiots come to the conclusion that not eating meat can be healthy?

I bet you would make great friends with Scientologists.

I don't really give a shit that you decided on the idea of denying your body key nutrients . What gets me is the fact that you somehow think everyone else that doesn't see things the way you do is a cruel beast who eats babies and cooks live kittens when he gets the munchies.

Look, most of us don't like that some animals get treated so poorly, and honestly if we were there first hand, we'd go the extra mile to make sure that none of the [insert tasty animal here] were about to enjoy go through any kind of unnecesary pain. But the fact is , ther are 6 billion of us here and in order to keep up with the high demand , some shortcuts have to be taken.

But I really, don't give a fuck about why you think everyone should be a vegetarian and how "healthy" it is.

Fuck you and your logic.
First off, there are about 1 billion people starving today.
Do you honestly think that those people who would do anything for a loaf of bread have a god damn choice?
Most of us aren't fucking eating your

[insert your version of cute animal here]

because we want to, we do it because we have to.
People need to eat meat , it's how we were designed. Don't believe me? Pick up a mirror and take a look at your teeth.. I bet the look on your face when you realize that you too are a 'monster' who was created to eat meat, will be priceless.

I also dont give a damn about your "at least don't eat dogs" ideology
I can eat whatever I want.
You can take your stupid white washed idea that dogs are off-limits and shove it up your ass, along with the idea that the world will end in 2012 [the mayas them selves don't believe that] and that Xenu is master of the universe. [ and I'm the fucking pope]

Your version of 'cute pet' is someone elses next meal and you have no right to say shit if that meal happens to be a dog or a cat. Just as you wouldn't want a radical hindu walking up to you calling you a murderer for eating beef, we don't want to hear your fucking shit either.

In conclusion I'd like to say that no one has the right to tell anyone what type of food they should eat. I don't care if you think it's cute, you can go fuck your self because if I'm hungry, I'll kill anything and eat it to survive.

Of course this part goes over most peoples heads as they've forgoten how unfortunate and unforgiving some parts of the world can be and these people don't have the ability to choose between pet and food like your over priveledged ass does. They don't have the option of going on a god damn diet because the one they're on right now, is killing them the fuck off. So shut the fuck up.

I hope you get mauled by your pet some day.

Dude. No one cares. Your post is as pathetic as vegetarians hating on meat eating. Eat what you want, and shut the fuck up.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

I agree with everything you said, and your opinion.
Except I believe for a fact that humans are naturally herbivores.

If you look at the human teeth, we actually have teeth with a flat bottom, rather than a carnivore with sharp pointed teeth. (think Lion, Tiger, even dogs etc)

But that being said, humans dominate the earth, and there's no reason why we cannot eat meat if we please to, especially if it's for survival.

Other support that humans are naturally herbivore.
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...-herbivores-2/

Humans are not only omnivores, but are humans because they are omnivores. So you couldn't be more wrong. I'll post an explanation after UFC

[SkinnyPupp]

Here's a quick-note explanation of why we became meat-eating humans with big brains (and flat teeth), instead of continuing to be dumb veggie-eating apes (with flat teeth).

-Right around 2 million years ago, our predecessors' brains suddenly saw a jump in size:



-As you may already know, brains have a very high metabolic rate - they need a lot of fuel to function properly, and throw off a lot of heat. So along with this change in size came a huge need for increased fuel.

-Understanding Kleiber's Law, we know that generally, a mammal's overall metabolic rate is based directly with body size. This is also accepted as fact:



-Based on this tight correlation, we can determine an animal's metabolic rate based on its size. So an 80 lb human will give off the same amount of heat as an 80 lb chimp, for example.

-Because of this law, the fact that our brains are so much bigger than an 80 lb chimp's (or any encephalized animal for that matter), the difference in metabolic rates need to be explained. After all, if we are the same otherwise, why doesn't our huge brain cause our heat production to be 4X higher or more?

-Somewhere along our history, our bodies have found a way to compensate.

-The next most expensive tissue in our body (after the heart) are the digestive organs - guts, basically. The brain, heart, GI tract, kidney, and liver make up the majority of our basic metabolic rate.

-The solution to the problem is that while our brains got bigger, our guts got smaller. Comparing a 150 lb chimpanzee to a 150 lb human, scientists found that the heart, kidneys, and liver were all approximately the same size. However, the GI tract of a human is roughly half the size of the chimp's. And of course you know the brain is about that much bigger than the chimp's.

-So while the overall BMR is about the same even with the larger brain, the smaller gut is what allows this to happen:



-So our brains got bigger (for whatever reason) and to make up for it, our digestive system got smaller. It had to, to obey Kleiber's law.

-So what allowed this to happen? About 2 million years ago, our diets would have to have changed drastically. Instead of foraging for grains, nuts, and berries which are expensive to digest and offer little fuel per weight, hominids had to have started eating a more dense, efficient diet. They started eating more fat and protein. This came from.... meat!

-Because they started eating more easily-digested food packed with more calories, there was no longer a need to have a large gut. Over evolution, our guts shrank, and our brains grew to make up for it.

-Had we remained pure vegetarians, it would have been literally impossible for our guts to shrink, and our brains to grow. Not without violatiing a basical scientific law (which of course is impossible).

-Take a gorilla for example - pure vegetarians. They spend their entire existance foraging and eatins plants, even though they are huge primates. But because of their diet, their species requires a large gut to digest the food they eat. And this did not allow their brains to exand.

-Going all the way back to Australopithecus africanus, one of the first encephalized species we found, you can see that their brains were significantly larger in comparison even by that point. And we know that they ate meat. This is where it all began

-So you can thank Lucy for deciding to stop being a vegetarian 3-4 million years ago. Because had she not, we'd all still look and act just like her.

[Great68]

When I go to a restaurant, I like to order a veggie burger with bacon.

[SkinnyPupp]

Wow, I put a lot of research into that post, and it literally destroys any argument veggies may have that humans are supposed to be vegetarians, and not a single thanks or even a response?

[slammer111]

Reminds me of a joke I heard back in highschool.

Q: What is the toughest part of eating vegetables?

A: The wheelchairs.

[Ferra]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

Wow, I put a lot of research into that post, and it literally destroys any argument veggies may have that humans are supposed to be vegetarians, and not a single thanks or even a response?

Your post merely suggested that the added protein and fat in human diet helped the brain's development.

Which is kinda irrelevant since "most" vegetarians are only arguing that we do not need meat to get that extra fat and protein. Nowadays, there are plenty of other sources and supplements people can take to get those extra nutrients found only in a meat diet millions of years ago.

Only a small percentage of retarded people believe that human body does not need the extra nutrient found in meat to do well. And nutritionists have always suggested that if you are going to become a vegetarin, you should either take nutrient supplmement or carefully select the kind of food you eat to make sure you are meeting your body's need.

I am not a vegetarian, but I gotta agree that I see a lot more hate from non-vegetarian towards vegetarian than other way around.

[Noir]

Originally Posted by Ferra

I am not a vegetarian, but I gotta agree that I see a lot more hate from non-vegetarian towards vegetarian than other way around.

Perhaps it's not difference in belief but the air of elitism among them that festers that hate? I notice some "vegetarians" like to throw that title around like its some social class card.

[El Bastardo]

[SpuGen]

Theres smart Vegetarians, and there's dumb Vegetarians. We call the dumb ones Vegans.

Like so
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18574603/

We need meat. Some Vegetarians still eat meat like fish, but stay away from everything else. At least it's meat. My friend is Vegetarian by religion, and other than me bugging him about how good Beef is, he at least eats fish.

[Bonjour43MA]

Hey I'm a vegetarian (no meat at all) but I don't go around pouncing my lifestyle into other people's brains - you eat what you want and if you're healthy then stick with it. No need to hate on others (vege > meat eaters, or vice versa) just because they believe in different things than you.

as far as just how healthy/unhealthy the vegetarian diet is - it really depends on what you eat, how much you eat, and how often you eat. Just have to find the right balance by knowing your food and what's in it.

I started being a vegetarian 13 years ago and acutally gained weight throughout the years - you really just need to eat the right things to make sure you have enough nutrients being put into your body to generate muscle/maintain bodily functions. Vegetarianism isn't all about eatting just vegetables, fruits, salads, bread, etc... I would've died of starvation if those are the only things I've been eating for the last decade.

So yeah, people have different reasons to eat what they want to eat, and there is no reason to be judgmental just because you think your way of life is better/correct.

Now, cannibalism, on the other hand, is a WHOLE different story. LOL

[PiuYi]

LOL very impressive presentation skinny!!! persuasive and concise
A+

....dont know why you spent so much time/effort on a rant-thread tho

[Bonjour43MA]

Originally Posted by The7even

Anyway, moving on to vegeterians...

Aside from the fact that you're all retarded and posses the inability to relate to other people, how did you idiots come to the conclusion that not eating meat can be healthy?

I don't really give a shit that you decided on the idea of denying your body key nutrients . What gets me is the fact that you somehow think everyone else that doesn't see things the way you do is a cruel beast who eats babies and cooks live kittens when he gets the munchies.

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In conclusion I'd like to say that no one has the right to tell anyone what type of food they should eat.

You definitely contradicted yourself in your conclusion there.

[q0192837465]

Well, I dunno why but over the years, my consumption of vegetable starts to rise while meat starts to fall. I didnt force it to happen but it seems that I do not crave meat as much as I used to be from my teenage years.