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the_rickster 11-16-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverBlitz (Post 6685745)
would this be under entrapment?

do you know what entrapment is?


if it was a cab full of money and the door was unlocked and there was a sign on top that said "steal this car full of money", but it was being monitored by a group of police from a distance who were recording the whole thing, then busted you as you attempted to steal the car, it would entrapment. this is just an undercover cop car dressed up as a taxi.

InvisibleSoul 11-16-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by the_rickster (Post 6686228)
do you know what entrapment is?


if it was a cab full of money and the door was unlocked and there was a sign on top that said "steal this car full of money", but it was being monitored by a group of police from a distance who were recording the whole thing, then busted you as you attempted to steal the car, it would entrapment. this is just an undercover cop car dressed up as a taxi.

Um... I don't believe your example qualifies as entrapment either.

I think entrapment is where the police put pressure on you to commit an illegal act.

In your example, even though the police are certainly enticing you, there is no pressure from them to make you steal the car.

penner2k 11-16-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by godwin (Post 6686113)
They are connected via APRS packet radio, no need for a router, it is on a card.

oh that sucks..
I was reading about how in some areas of the states some ppl when looking for networks would pick up a certain network whenever a cop was parked by their house... The network usually had something about police right in the name too. If that worked out here it would make it really easy to track police (more so in not so populated areas)

Cman333 11-16-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hotjoint (Post 6685770)
do taxi drivers get get pulled over for speeding? those motherfuckers speed like crazy

I've seen it many times before. Especially during that time they were enforcing Granville st.

Cman333 11-16-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the_rickster (Post 6686228)
do you know what entrapment is?


if it was a cab full of money and the door was unlocked and there was a sign on top that said "steal this car full of money", but it was being monitored by a group of police from a distance who were recording the whole thing, then busted you as you attempted to steal the car, it would entrapment. this is just an undercover cop car dressed up as a taxi.

Don't think that's entrapment. If it was our ICBC Bait Car program would fail.

They basically do something similar like leave a wallet or something valuable in the car to entice the thieves.

jeepwreck 11-16-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 6685890)
those steelies with fat sliver centercaps are dead giveaaway

lol ya and the color is a give away too not too many non yellow or orange cabs running around the city

lilaznviper 11-16-2009 07:47 PM

i saw a camery ghost car
now that was something new

jaguar604 11-16-2009 08:07 PM

what if i get into that thing drunk, thinking its a taxi and they take me to cells. is that entrapment? lol

slammer111 11-16-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul (Post 6686270)
Um... I don't believe your example qualifies as entrapment either.

I think entrapment is where the police put pressure on you to commit an illegal act.

In your example, even though the police are certainly enticing you, there is no pressure from them to make you steal the car.

If a cop tailgated you on the highway, switched lanes when you did (to stay behind you), then pulled you over when you tried speeding up to put some distance between the two of you, that'd be entrapment.

Happened to me once back in tha day. I was then busted for speeding, what a prick. Too scared to dispute though (Chinese upbringing) so I just paid it. :cry:

moomooCow 11-16-2009 10:28 PM

^ don't think you could have disputed it as you could have lightly tapped your brakes or just pull over and let them pass, that's what they would say to you.

cococly 11-16-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 6685890)
those steelies with fat sliver centercaps are dead giveaaway

YES! I spotted that too.

Why didn't they just use a PRUIS taxi as a ghost car? I mean not too many people would have guts to try to run away :)?

lilkulit 11-17-2009 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by hotjoint (Post 6685770)
do taxi drivers get get pulled over for speeding? those motherfuckers speed like crazy

seen a few, but there was this one time a taxi zoom by me going over 100km and then saw a nissan exterra(?) with N following the taxi going the same speed. next thing i know the exterra flashes the blue and red lights. now that's more of a ghost car than that taxi. heck i even saw a beat up mazda 626 in downtown pulling over someone.

thumper 11-17-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepwreck (Post 6686620)
lol ya and the color is a give away too not too many non yellow or orange cabs running around the city

keep in mind that this is in ontario, not bc. they still use ex-police cars over there, so no priuses, corollas, etc... that's just a west coast thing.

underscore 11-17-2009 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by thumper (Post 6687303)
keep in mind that this is in ontario, not bc. they still use ex-police cars over there, so no priuses, corollas, etc... that's just a west coast thing.

I'm in Ontario right now, none of the cabs are ex cop cars as best I can tell, they're a whole mix of stuff but none of them are purple Crown Vics.

Then again my friend from Timmins tried to wave down a campus security van thinking it was a cab and promptly got busted for having an open beer :lol so maybe parts of Ontario are like that? idk

thumper 11-17-2009 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 6687324)
I'm in Ontario right now, none of the cabs are ex cop cars as best I can tell, they're a whole mix of stuff but none of them are purple Crown Vics.

really... my cousin was in ontario and he said that at pearson there was many crown vics in the taxi waiting line :confused:

underscore 11-17-2009 06:54 AM

Maybe in Toronto but I don't see running a Crown Vic around a big city like that to be a good idea (gas wise), either way even the shitty cab companies here (Thunder Bay) paint their cars so I don't think anyone would run a purple CV with no paint or logo or anything.

static 11-17-2009 07:17 AM

It'd be entrapment if the cop pulled up alongside you called you a good for nothing ricer that could never catch him in your import piece of shit and offered to race you for your pride or that of your virgin gfs. Completed aforementioned race, and then turned on the red and blues.

penner2k 11-17-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cococly (Post 6687057)
YES! I spotted that too.

Why didn't they just use a PRUIS taxi as a ghost car? I mean not too many people would have guts to try to run away :)?

Why wouldnt ppl have the guts to run from the Prius?
Unless you are driving it like it is supposed to it gets pretty horrible gas mileage.. Top Gear did a test before. M3 vs Prius. The M3 just had to keep up with the Prius around the track. M3 made better gas mileage.

jlenko 11-17-2009 12:28 PM

It may have a bubble on top like a taxi... but that number is the police, and it clearly says "Police" on the top, not Taxi.

godwin 11-17-2009 02:14 PM

Actually Toyota is only big in West Coast.. it is Ford city out East. Remember Toronto is way bigger than BC. There aren't that many stop and go traffic.

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 6687334)
Maybe in Toronto but I don't see running a Crown Vic around a big city like that to be a good idea (gas wise), either way even the shitty cab companies here (Thunder Bay) paint their cars so I don't think anyone would run a purple CV with no paint or logo or anything.


the_rickster 11-19-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul (Post 6686270)
Um... I don't believe your example qualifies as entrapment either.

I think entrapment is where the police put pressure on you to commit an illegal act.

In your example, even though the police are certainly enticing you, there is no pressure from them to make you steal the car.

enticing you into a crime with the purpose of prosecuting you for it. thats what entrapment is. and thats exactly what i exemplified.

The_AK 11-20-2009 12:55 AM

off-topic but how successful HAS the bait car program been?

Qmx323 11-20-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The_AK (Post 6691837)
off-topic but how successful HAS the bait car program been?


bait car as in car waiting for u to steal? or bait car as in try to make u race them.

either way i'd say low cuz no ones that stupid

thumper 11-20-2009 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The_AK (Post 6691837)
off-topic but how successful HAS the bait car program been?

http://www.baitcar.com/

InvisibleSoul 11-20-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by the_rickster (Post 6691115)
enticing you into a crime with the purpose of prosecuting you for it. thats what entrapment is. and thats exactly what i exemplified.

And what I said is just the act of enticing is not sufficient. They must be a distinct element of being pressured to perform the illegal act.


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