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Old 11-19-2009, 09:18 PM   #1
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Is a facebook picture an accurate gauge of your emotional state ?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...-benefits.html

Nathalie Blanchard, 29, has been on leave from her job at IBM in Bromont, Que., for the last year and a half after she was diagnosed with major depression.

The Eastern Townships woman was receiving monthly sick-leave benefits from Manulife, her insurance company, but the payments dried up this fall.

When Blanchard called Manulife, the company said that "I'm available to work, because of Facebook," she told CBC News this week.

She said her insurance agent described several pictures Blanchard posted on the popular social networking site, including ones showing her having a good time at a Chippendales bar show, at her birthday party and on a sun holiday — evidence that she is no longer depressed, Manulife said.
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wow thats ridiculous, she locked her facebook page but Manulife still accessed it
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:24 PM   #3
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Kids, this is why you don't use facebook. Delete the sucker.
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i bet manulife investigated and found one of her "friends" to turn on her. That or there is some loophole that facebook has in their terms of service agreement.

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1. For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos ("IP content"), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.

I am not a lawyer but i don't see anything there about your personal user settings trumping facebook's rights. Conceivably even setting the most stringent security settings are only with regards to "friends" etc, not facebook the overarching entity.
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i bet manulife investigated and found one of her "friends" to turn on her. That or there is some loophole that facebook has in their terms of service agreement.

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I am not a lawyer but i don't see anything there about your personal user settings trumping facebook's rights. Conceivably even setting the most stringent security settings are only with regards to "friends" etc, not facebook the overarching entity.
Umm, how about, "you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings"?

All this paragraph is for, is to insulate FB from liability in a "theft of intellectual property" claim. Without it, someone could post a picture, say, of his artwork... someone on his friends or in a group that he posts it to could then re-post it... the original person might then sue that person for copyright infringement in "stealing" that artwork, and then sue FB for facilitating it.

The wording merely gives FB a LICENSE (not ownership) to "publish" the content, without paying royalties, and they specifically state that if you delete your account, their license is terminated.
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i even removed my friends from work just because i didnt want others seeing my pictures and what not transitively
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Umm, how about, "you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings"?

All this paragraph is for, is to insulate FB from liability in a "theft of intellectual property" claim. Without it, someone could post a picture, say, of his artwork... someone on his friends or in a group that he posts it to could then re-post it... the original person might then sue that person for copyright infringement in "stealing" that artwork, and then sue FB for facilitating it.

The wording merely gives FB a LICENSE (not ownership) to "publish" the content, without paying royalties, and they specifically state that if you delete your account, their license is terminated.
however, even if you erase the pictures off facebook the images still remain open to distribution if they are tagged etc, and once your account is reactivated your pictures remain. which means, ultimately, your images are merely archived rather than erased.
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Thats absolutely rediculous. If you have major depression, you aren't depressed 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Everyone can be happy on a vacation. Obviously no medical reason to stop this claim. It likely made her depression even worse.
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however, even if you erase the pictures off facebook the images still remain open to distribution if they are tagged etc, and once your account is reactivated your pictures remain. which means, ultimately, your images are merely archived rather than erased.
Sounds about right?.. isnt FB like half owned or supported by the US government apparently..? All pics/what ever u put on is government property once u submit it.. (your example when u try to delete your account, they still have back ups)
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however, even if you erase the pictures off facebook the images still remain open to distribution if they are tagged etc, and once your account is reactivated your pictures remain. which means, ultimately, your images are merely archived rather than erased.
"This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it."

That's not tagging... that's if one of your friends reposts your picture, FB retains license to it. Again, it's a CYA clause - you can't go back to them and say, "well *I* deleted it, therefor you're now stealing it from me."
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Old 11-20-2009, 05:58 AM   #15
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well i generally don't think so, most people i know have their facebook full of party pics cuz well, when the else do you take pictures?

why would you post non happy pictures of yourself on facebook? lol only emos do that.
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"This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it."

That's not tagging... that's if one of your friends reposts your picture, FB retains license to it. Again, it's a CYA clause - you can't go back to them and say, "well *I* deleted it, therefor you're now stealing it from me."
yeah thats what i meant, when others post pictures of you and tag you, your untagging does not remove that image. (unfortunately).
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yeah thats what i meant, when others post pictures of you and tag you, your untagging does not remove that image. (unfortunately).
Well of course not - if it's not posted on your account, it's not really your image to remove. What if there are a half-dozen other people tagged in it? All you can do is ask your friend to remove it, or photoshop you out of it.
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