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Old 11-20-2009, 06:19 AM   #1
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bc ferries fast cats?

does anyone know what is going on with the old bc ferries fast cats? i thought they were docked near londsdale quay in north van, but i was in deep cove last night and saw one of them sitting on some sort of transport ship just outside of the cove:



what is going on?
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they have been sold...apparently they sold it for 20Mil...and the dude who bought it flipped it for 25% profit.
His name just slipped my mind..I will comeback with the name...
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Jesus christ, they lost A LOT of money on these pieces of shit.
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We lost $425mil on those fucking things.

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they have been sold...apparently they sold it for 20Mil...and the dude who bought it flipped it for 25% profit.
His name just slipped my mind..I will comeback with the name...


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Old 11-20-2009, 08:42 AM   #7
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that's money that's gone to some west van people's houses. GG government for not doing research before doing big ass projects!
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The original buyer was the builder.
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The original buyer was the builder.
the original builder was the most recent buyer.

we were the original buyers.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:41 AM   #10
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Huh? According to Wikipedia, they were built by Catamaran Ferries International of Vancouver BC (owned by BC government). Then Washington Marine Group bought them at auction (for 4% of the original cost) once we decided to abandon them.

So is WMG related to CFI?
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:45 AM   #11
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Wonder what it will be used for. Transporting billionaires to their own private islands?
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:18 PM   #13
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Then why are some people saying that the original builder was the most recent buyer?
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:56 PM   #14
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Then why are some people saying that the original builder was the most recent buyer?
I don't know. They're idiots?
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And they dare to say they need money to build those damn skytrain when they literally flushed all that money down the toilet.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:19 PM   #16
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I don't know. They're idiots?
Bingo!!!

Washington Marine didn't build them. They bought them (cheap) after the project was scrapped. Had plans to use them as truck/freight transport, scrapped that idea and sold them to the Middle East.
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The government could have sold them for a lot more money. I got the chance to ride them once, and they were actually pretty nice. If you ask me they should have kept using them, fuck the hippies that complained about the big wake.
It was political to dump them cheap, keep people pissed off at the previous government for building them.
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Old 11-20-2009, 05:23 PM   #18
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If I'm not mistaken, they left huge wakes, were crap on fuel, didn't fit into some of the docks, were cramped for parking and for interior space.

NDP fail for commissioning the build of something that wouldn't work as needed, spending more than double what they projected, allowing the project to be delayed by 3 years and using shipbuilders that weren't familiar with aluminum construction on that scale. They spent so much of our money, trying to be new and innovative when, if they went with something tried and true, could've got the job done faster and cheaper.

Liberal fail for what they sold it for.
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i also had the chance to ride in them. A lot nicer than the current " celebration " ferries. I remember the vehicle decks had aluminum floors.
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How was it the NDP's fault? If I recall, it were the Liberals who pawned them off.
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NDP fail for commissioning the build of something that wouldn't work as needed, spending more than double what they projected, allowing the project to be delayed by 3 years and using shipbuilders that weren't familiar with aluminum construction on that scale. They spent so much of our money, trying to be new and innovative when, if they went with something tried and true, could've got the job done faster and cheaper.
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i also had the chance to ride in them. A lot nicer than the current " celebration " ferries. I remember the vehicle decks had aluminum floors.
"Nicer" how? The aluminum car decks were slick and murder for cyclists. You weren't allowed to stay in your car at all; the car decks had no windows at all. The carpet in the things was technicolor vomit. The stairs to the upper deck were barely wide enough for a single person to pass, let alone people going up AND down. There was very, very little outside deck space. They rolled HORRIBLY in even moderate seas that you wouldn't even feel on a standard deep-V hull (on the plus side, playing pinball in the arcade was a wild experience in those conditions), and the last time I took one, they had to stop and back up to clear debris from the jet intakes... and apparently this was a fairly regular occurrence.

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If I'm not mistaken, they left huge wakes, were crap on fuel, didn't fit into some of the docks, were cramped for parking and for interior space.
And all that, too.

They looked slick and high-tech from the outside, but that's about all that was good about them.
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They've been trying to sell them for years, and they've sat there rotting. They got what they could for them. That someone else is a better shyster that managed to flip them for more isn't their fault.
Not the mention it took them 6 years to "flip them" for a measly 25% profit.
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Not the mention it took them 6 years to "flip them" for a measly 25% profit.
I'm sure for the first few years, WMG had big plans for them that never materialized. They did do work on them at the Drydock and Seaspan (retrofits for non-public use). But yeah, even with good contacts, they didn't make much, if anything.
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shoulda parked em somewhere and moved the DTES into em
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