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ShyGuy 11-25-2009 08:39 PM

yah me too...my volkswagens and audi's were solid...all cars have problems to some extent.

JesseBlue 11-25-2009 09:24 PM

go chevy...you know their slogan now...may the best car win...even though the company already lost and got bailed out...

orange7 11-25-2009 10:02 PM

your one WV car != all WV cars

metal 11-26-2009 01:04 AM

I ruv mah jetta!

Vitality 11-26-2009 01:16 AM

this thread is win.. have u even checked your cam follower or cam? u're suppose to check every 10000 km. Also, a aftermarket HPFP wears your cams faster than stock FYI

Tim Budong 11-26-2009 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitality (Post 6701188)
this thread is win.. have u even checked your cam follower or cam? u're suppose to check every 10000 km. Also, a aftermarket HPFP wears your cams faster than stock FYI

i checked my cams 3000km ago
it was fine

J-Chow 11-26-2009 02:33 AM

ouch will. I can feel the hatred in you.

hahaha, so is it a good thing i stayed away from the GTI?

I think i'll put my downpayment on that genesis instead :P

Shun Izaki 11-26-2009 02:54 AM

i'm gonna hate since you thought this was the best thing ever... :)

i've nearly total lossed my car (not my fault, flamesuit :P) and it's still running JUST fine...

BTW: never rant on RS and expect to get off scott free :P

Tim Budong 11-26-2009 03:17 AM

hahah
chowman
TSI and FSI are completely different in a sense that the TSI engine fixed all the flaws of the FSI

and no...i dont expect to get off scottfree or anything like this, im sure the more well educated people of the forum will say things taht FOREVER trump that of a inconsiderate/rude asshole

the sophisticated will always be better

Great68 11-26-2009 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitality (Post 6701188)
this thread is win.. have u even checked your cam follower or cam? u're suppose to check every 10000 km.

Is this a VW requirement?

10000km is almost every oil change. Sounds pretty rediculous to me that VW would have someone unbolt a semi-major part of their motor every oil change. Then again, this is VW we're talking about..

thumper 11-26-2009 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 6701301)
Is this a VW requirement?

10000km is almost every oil change. Sounds pretty rediculous to me that VW would have someone unbolt a semi-major part of their motor every oil change. Then again, this is VW we're talking about..

the turbo engine in the GTI is a direct-injection setup, hence the need for a high-pressure fuel pump. because it's under so much load (120bar), and the stupid follower is a bucket design, the bucket becomes prone to premature wear and can fail before the recommended service/inspection intervals depending on oil/usage. as a result the plunger will hole the bucket and eat the cam lobe... you get the idea.

and it dosen't matter if the pump is stock or aftermarket... both will fail.

the new TSI engine dosen't use the bucket design anymore. vw changed it to a rollower bearing follower... and of course it's not something that can be retrofitted to us FSI owners :flamemad:

there is a company in ontario called H2sport that has designed a roller bearing follower for the FSI (after one of their sponsored cars blew up at the car and driver one lap of america event this year), but it's still going through R&D until they are 110% sure it will not fail... but it's been over a half-year now and still not ready :cry:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4484254

Great68 11-26-2009 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thumper (Post 6701324)
the turbo engine in the GTI is a direct-injection setup, hence the need for a high-pressure fuel pump. because it's under so much load, and the stupid follower is a bucket design, the bucket becomes prone to premature wear and can fail before the recommended service/inspection intervals depending on oil/usage. as a result the plunger will hole the bucket and eat the cam lobe... you get the idea.

and it dosen't matter if the pump is stock or aftermarket... both will fail.

the new TSI engine dosen't use the bucket design anymore. vw changed it to a rollower bearing follower... and of course it's not something that can be retrofitted to us FSI owners :flamemad:

there is a company in ontario called H2sport that has designed a roller bearing follower for the FSI (after one of their sponsored cars blew up at the car and driver one lap of america event this year), but it's still going through R&D until they are 110% sure it will not fail... but it's been over a half-year now and still not ready :cry:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4484254

I know how direct injection engines work. I was wondering if pulling the HP pump every 10k is a VW service requirement on the car. If it is, that's pretty stupid.

Mugen EvOlutioN 11-26-2009 07:12 AM

the more you mod the more problems you shall encounter



but damn 08 is pretty damn new

thumper 11-26-2009 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 6701330)
I know how direct injection engines work. I was wondering if pulling the HP pump every 10k is a VW service requirement on the car. If it is, that's pretty stupid.

no it wasn't supposed to be, but it is now :(

thankfully it's not a major job. it took 20 minutes for mine to be replaced. but pulling the cam out replace after the pump munched the end off of it, and having to poke around inside the engine to find whatever is left of the bucket follower... very major :o

this is the TSB for audi from apr, but it's the same for VW:

http://www.goapr.com/support/fsi_fue...stallation.pdf

hk20000 11-26-2009 08:14 AM

If you don't like to fiddle with your car and you bought a VW......May God help you.

If you like to "drive" a car and not "fix" a car, then buy a TSX or something.

Dentz 11-26-2009 09:28 AM

I love our VW, but lately it's been a bitch - then again it has a 1.8T so it's a finicky engine anyways.

orange7 11-26-2009 05:35 PM

why is it that only the negative stuff gets pointed out?

we need someone with good experience with VW to say a few things in this thread.

danizer 11-26-2009 05:42 PM

had the GTI for 7.5K km and only have good experiences...is my daily driver, have alot of fun driving it (by fun i dont mean driving like a douche bag weaving in and out of traffic cutting ppl off and speeding). haven't had a problem with the car so far and pretty sure it will stay this way, car still drives like new!

if i were to complain about one thing (which is my fault) is the steering does rebound a bit on account of the H&R springs i had put in without coilovers ^^"

im sure ppl who are complaining about VW just got the unlucky few :( even great car companies (like VW) have a few...excuse the cliche...rotten eggs...those of you suggesting alternative markets (such as japanese or US) im positive they have a few bugs too!

EuroRepresent 11-26-2009 09:46 PM

I just put down deposit for an 06 Jetta 2.0t FSI. It's got 40,000km and i'll let you know if something goes wrong!

hatasir 11-26-2009 09:53 PM

told YA!

dinamix 11-26-2009 10:28 PM

i feel ya man..my 2nd car was a mk2 GTI..it had just over 142k ..fuel pump broke..shock tower bolts gave up..syncros were fucked..all that in a 6 month period..last vw ive ever owned..

Lomac 11-26-2009 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinamix (Post 6702341)
i feel ya man..my 2nd car was a mk2 GTI..it had just over 142k ..fuel pump broke..shock tower bolts gave up..syncros were fucked..all that in a 6 month period..last vw ive ever owned..

And you expect a 20 year old car not to have any problems?

:rolleyes:

dinamix 11-26-2009 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 6702370)
And you expect a 20 year old car not to have any problems?

:rolleyes:

i did but not to that extent. I loved that car to death but the maintainance was hurting me too much financially. I had a 88 crx,90 EK si and a 91 240sx with the same clicks that game me less of a headache. Its just from my experience. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5452/dsc07088f.jpg
maybe its just me but i hear too much stories of VWs being unreliable.

Lomac 11-26-2009 11:42 PM

Was that yours? If so, I think I must have met you at one of the DOV/Dubberz meets... If not, there's one running around locally that looked the exact same. :lol

I'll admit that there are a few VW's out there that definitely had a larger than normal amount of issues (MK3's auto tranny's, B3 Passat's entire electrical system, MK4's VR6 coilpack, etc), but as a whole -- and presuming the cars are maintained properly -- they're just as (un)reliable as any other car out there.

seakrait 11-27-2009 01:02 AM

love my 2002 gti 337 (admittedly with low mileage - 70k+). love the 1.8t engine. at least it isn't a vr6. *runs and hides*

quality of manufacture. solidness of car. low down punch of the 1.8t. 1.8t easily chipped for greater power. love it.

no qualms about owning another VW (like a mk5 5dr gti with DSG *dreams*).


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