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Old 11-29-2009, 02:15 PM   #26
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Then, I suppose "Damn Amtrak" will have to do.

Going to be interesting to see what develops from this, and if they take the guy in alive.
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Kids on RS need to learn to reserve judgement instead of jumping to conclusions and spreading retarded thoughts.

How hard is it to simply say "RIP" or "My thoughts & prayers to their families" and be on your way? No, you have to play detective/FOX news anchor by sensationalizing the story, and trying to solve the crime.

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Kids on RS need to learn to reserve judgement instead of jumping to conclusions and spreading retarded thoughts.

How hard is it to simply say "RIP" or "My thoughts & prayers to their families" and be on your way? No, you have to play detective/FOX news anchor by sensationalizing the story, and trying to solve the crime.

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fuck you if you don't like the comments don't read it .. everyone is entitled to their opinions
if they choose to voice their opinion on a public forum then its their choice
who the fuck are you to say what people should be and shouldn't be doing
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fuck you if you don't like the comments don't read it .. everyone is entitled to their opinions
if they choose to voice their opinion on a public forum then its their choice
who the fuck are you to say what people should be and shouldn't be doing
umm, maybe you should apply your comment to yourself and shut up too? after all "everyone is entitled to their opinions " which he was expressing...

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umm, maybe you should apply your comment to yourself and shut up too? after all "everyone is entitled to their opinions " which he was expressing...

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yes, and i retorted with my own opinion
so you telling me to stfu make yourself a fucking fool dumbfuck
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yes, and i retorted with my own opinion
so you telling me to stfu make yourself a fucking fool dumbfuck
I was mainly referring to the "fuck you if you don't like the comments don't read it .. " part, but I guess you don't practice what you preach.
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I was mainly referring to the "fuck you if you don't like the comments don't read it .. " part, but I guess you don't practice what you preach.
no i enjoyed his comment but i just have my own opinion
i encourage him to post more comments up for me to retort same goes for you
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yes, and i retorted with my own opinion
so you telling me to stfu make yourself a fucking fool dumbfuck
Hey. Listen up. Shut the fuck up and show some respect.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1381850/

Jerry Arnold, 45, was in bed when he was awakened by sirens. He's lived there seven years and never seen anything close to Sunday's scene.

“I hope they get them. I can't sleep until they do,” he said. “Those guys could be hiding in my backyard.”

No Jerry, they are not hiding in your backyard.
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Hey, 67ss, StylinRed. If you support Pandalove, by all means fail me for telling him off. But know that that's who I was telling off.

No updates as to follow-up on the story from this morning on the news, either.
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Wow, that's brazen.

Yesterday, I was at the Esso at Kingsway and Victoria Drive and there were seven police officers inside there doing a pow wow to decide where to go for dinner.
their always there. i think that gas station must have the least ammount of thefts or shit stolen from them

everytime im pennies or even 5cent short the guy dosent even seem to care (y)
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Here is the suspect they are looking for:


The four officers:


This nut job sounds like he's short a few marbles
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Seattle, Washington (CNN) -- The suspect in the fatal shooting of four police officers kept authorities at bay early Monday -- seven hours after a massive manhunt tracked him to a house in an east Seattle neighborhood.

Authorities had been looking for Maurice Clemmons in connection with an "ambush" Sunday morning at a coffee shop near Tacoma in Pierce County. Four officers -- three males, one female -- died in the attack.

Authorities identified the victims as Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39; Officer Ronald Owens, 37; Officer Tina Griswold, 40; and Officer Greg Richards, 42. All four had been with the department since its inception, and all of them were parents.

Witnesses told police they had seen Clemmons struck in the leg by a bullet while he struggled with an officer during the attack.

Early Monday, authorities started identifying Clemmons as a suspect, rather than as someone wanted for questioning.

Police were not looking for anyone else, but had arrested several people who had "helped" Clemmons, said Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer.

The night before the shootings, Clemmons had threatened to kill police officers, but witnesses did not report those threats till after the slayings, Troyer told "Good Morning America."

About 8 p.m. Sunday, police received word that Clemmons had holed up in a home in the Leschi neighborhood.

Police blocked off streets and asked residents to stay inside with their doors locked.

Not knowing the extent of Clemmons' wounds, paramedics stood by to assess his condition once the standoff ended.

At 4:30 a.m., police were preparing to send a robot door-to-door in the cluster of residences that make up the property where Clemmons is believed to be hiding, said Seattle police spokesman Jeff Kappel.

Repeated attempts to make contact with Clemmons were unsuccessful, he said.

Clemmons is a convicted criminal with a long rap sheet who had a 95-year prison sentence commuted in 2000 by then-Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, said Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer.

Huckabee, a Republican presidential candidate in 2008, is considering a run for president in 2012.

"Should [Clemmons] be found responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington state," Huckabee's office said in a statement Sunday night.

Clemmons, 37, of Pierce County has an "extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas, including aggravated robbery and theft," the sheriff's department said in a statement.

He also was recently charged in Pierce County in the assault of a police officer and rape of a child, according to the statement.

Troyer said Arkansan law enforcement officials had indicated that they were willing to forgo Clemmons' warrants in that state to avoid extraditing him if needed.

Clemmons was sentenced to 95 years in prison in 1989 for a host of charges, including robberies, burglaries, thefts and bringing a gun to school.

During a pretrial hearing, he hid a piece of metal in his sock, media reports at the time said. Before the start of another hearing, he grabbed a padlock off his holding cell and threw it at a court bailiff. He missed, and the lock hit his mother, who had come to bring him clothes.

Huckabee cited Clemmons' young age -- 17 at the time of his sentencing -- when he announced his decision to commute the sentence, according to newspaper articles.

Clemmons was paroled in August 2000, after serving 11 years of his sentence.

"It was not something I was pleased with at the time," said Larry Jegley, who prosecuted Clemmons for aggravated robbery and other charges in Pulaski County, Arkansas. "I would be most distressed if this is the same guy."

Huckabee's office said Clemmons' commutation was based on the recommendation of the parole board that determined that he met the conditions for early release.

"He was arrested later for parole violation and taken back to prison to serve his full term, but prosecutors dropped the charges that would have held him," the statement said.

CNN could not immediately confirm the account. But the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper reported that a year after his release, Clemmons was arrested for aggravated robbery and theft.

He was taken back to prison for parole violation. But, said the paper, he was not served with the arrest warrants for the robbery and theft charges until he left prison three years later, in 2004.

His attorney argued the charges should be dismissed because too much time had passed by then. Prosecutors dropped the charges.

Clemmons is thought to have moved to Washington that year, and for a while ran a pressure-washing and landscaping business. The license for the business expired last month, according to the secretary of state's office, with which businesses have to register.

In recent months, Clemmons has displayed increasingly erratic behavior, the Seattle Times reported. In May, he punched a sheriff's deputy in the face, the paper said.

In another incident, he had relatives undress, telling them families need to be "naked for at least five minutes on Sunday," the newspaper said, citing a sheriff's department incident report.

Clemmons also believed he was Jesus and could fly, a deputy wrote, based on conversations with family members.

After serving several months in jail on a pending charge of second-degree rape of a child, Clemmons was released on bond six days ago, according to the Seattle Times.

Sunday's shooting was the first for the Lakewood police department, which was created five years ago for the town of nearly 60,000. Until then, the Pierce County sheriff's office provided law enforcement services there.

The four officers were awaiting the start of their shift at a coffee shop in Parkland, a unincorporated community just south of Lakewood and about 10 miles from Tacoma.

The officers were in uniform and had marked patrol cars parked outside.

The shop on Steele Street is a popular hangout for law enforcement officers and is one of 22 Forza Coffee Co. locations in Washington.

"As a retired police officer, this senseless shooting hits extremely close to home to me," Brad Carpenter, chief executive officer of Forza, said in a statement on the company's Web site.

The attack occurred without warning.

"There's not going to be a big motive other than he was upset about being incarcerated and was going to go gunning after cops in general," Troyer told reporters.

The shooter walked past the officers to the counter as if to order coffee before he pulled the gun out of his coat and opened fire at 8:15 a.m., the sheriff's office said.

Two of the officers were "executed" as they sat at a table, said Troyer, the sheriff's spokesman.

Another was shot when he stood up and the fourth was shot after struggling with the gunman all the way out the door, Troyer said.

Two baristas and other customers inside the shop were unharmed. "Just the law enforcement officers were targeted," Troyer said, calling the shooting an ambush.

"What happened in there wasn't just a shooting," he told reporters. "After, we believe, some of the officers were shot, one of them managed to fight his way with the suspect -- fight his way, wrestle, fight all the way out the the doorway until he was shot and died of a gunshot wound.

Witnesses told police they had seen the suspect hit by a gunshot. Investigators checked area hospitals to determine whether the gunman sought medical treatment. A $10,000 reward was offered for information leading to an arrest.
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Huckabee cited Clemmons' young age -- 17 at the time of his sentencing -- when he announced his decision to commute the sentence, according to newspaper articles.

Clemmons was paroled in August 2000, after serving 11 years of his sentence.

"It was not something I was pleased with at the time," said Larry Jegley, who prosecuted Clemmons for aggravated robbery and other charges in Pulaski County, Arkansas. "I would be most distressed if this is the same guy."

Huckabee's office said Clemmons' commutation was based on the recommendation of the parole board that determined that he met the conditions for early release.

"He was arrested later for parole violation and taken back to prison to serve his full term, but prosecutors dropped the charges that would have held him," the statement said.

CNN could not immediately confirm the account. But the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper reported that a year after his release, Clemmons was arrested for aggravated robbery and theft.

He was taken back to prison for parole violation. But, said the paper, he was not served with the arrest warrants for the robbery and theft charges until he left prison three years later, in 2004.

His attorney argued the charges should be dismissed because too much time had passed by then. Prosecutors dropped the charges.
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"There's not going to be a big motive other than he was upset about being incarcerated and was going to go gunning after cops in general," Troyer told reporters.

The shooter walked past the officers to the counter as if to order coffee before he pulled the gun out of his coat and opened fire at 8:15 a.m., the sheriff's office said.

Two of the officers were "executed" as they sat at a table, said Troyer, the sheriff's spokesman.

Another was shot when he stood up and the fourth was shot after struggling with the gunman all the way out the door, Troyer said.

Two baristas and other customers inside the shop were unharmed. "Just the law enforcement officers were targeted," Troyer said, calling the shooting an ambush.

"What happened in there wasn't just a shooting," he told reporters. "After, we believe, some of the officers were shot, one of them managed to fight his way with the suspect -- fight his way, wrestle, fight all the way out the the doorway until he was shot and died of a gunshot wound.
Read what I bolded/underlined. At least 1 officer fought for his life. Do you know what that means? The cop didn't want to lose his life, lose his family, or let the guy who just shot and killed his friends go.

For some you guys to jump to conclusions and spread unsubstantiated/uncorroborated rumors about them being some sort of "dirty cops" is disrespectful to the cops, their familes, and the people close to them. We know nothing about them. The fact that neither you and I know any of them just means that we should respect their memory until more news is released. It does not mean go make up your own facts because you think you know what happened from watching CSI:NY. This is common sense. This is what society promotes, sound reasoning.

The fact that 1 officer genuinely fought for his life, knowing what he/she stood to lose, means that guy is a hero. He didn't run and hide. For some of you to assume they were dirty or crooked before you could grasp any bit of the situation is disgusting. Not only are you spitting on their memory, but spitting on their families too. They were all parents, which means there are at least 4 more kids out there who lost either a mother or father yesterday. That's sad.

Whatever irregular behavior or abnormality that drives some of you to promote such slander in such a situation, instead of genuinely considering the ripples and magnitude such an event causes to others, I hope you correct it, because there is something wrong with you. You are what's wrong with RS these days.

I know this will fall on deaf ears for some. So be it.
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