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12-02-2009, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bengy  A CEO can decide to cut everyone's pay by 10%, saving a company X% of money on payroll, thus getting himself a nice bonus. Or you know, decide that for this year, no merrit raises for anyone... yes smart decisions... | or if he doesn't, the stock tanks, investors flee, stock loses capital, and more people eventually lose their job.
Why is the CEO so aware of stock prices? Think of some of the largest investors in Canada - pension funds. These funds require 8% growth to pay for themselves, yet our economy doesn't grow 8%. So these investors start to look elsewhere for investments if the CEO doesn't stay competitive.
Who pushes those pension returns? The same working class people getting a 10% pay cut from their employer.
Its a vicious circle.
I do agree the financial rewards have gone looney-tunes lately, upper management making millions for poor decisions. The advantage of private CEOs is that eventually bad ones are punted, unlike the heads of Translink, BC Rail, BC ferries that cannot be punted and collect looney-tunes bonuses.
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12-02-2009, 11:24 AM
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|  your title says "rage" not "wage" i came in here thinking about road ragers
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12-02-2009, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo Buddy, please. Could this be any more mental masturbation? If you are going to whine about the system, at least have a game plan. | Read his post again. The bold portions are quoted from the article.
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12-02-2009, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hotjoint your title says "rage" not "wage" i came in here thinking about road ragers | Hmm, I think the OP meant to say "did anyone read the article and then raged (or got mad)?"
Not about wage.
Rage is an emotion and verb! Or atleast it is on the internet...
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12-02-2009, 12:53 PM
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#30 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo Buddy, please. Could this be any more mental masturbation? If you are going to whine about the system, at least have a game plan.
So what's the game plan? I really hate these threads that basically deny the reality of life.
-Is it fair you have more money than over 2-3 billion people in this world? (A good chunk that live for under a $1USD a day?
-Why is it so important that you have hot running water to wash your ass with, when there are MILLIONS in this world who don't have access to clean FRESH water?
-Why do you cause unnecessary suffering by purchasing a pair of Nike shoes made in a factory where the work who put it together makes $2/hr? Do you complain about that?
I really fail to see how anyone could POSSIBLY complain about the world we live in, especially we are fortunate enough to be living in First World country.
Hell, our lives are so good we COMPLAIN about the rich having more money than us. That's our biggest problem?
Other people have to walk 30 fucking miles to a watering hole just to get fresh water to LIVE. I was in Nepal earlier and I met a guy who was a farmer, and we chatted a bit. I said "Great! What crops do sell?". He replied.
"Oh. I grow food just to feed my family. I don't have very much land. It's just enough food so we can live."
Completely humbling and mentally brought me to my knees. This is why I hate posts on the internet about this very topic. Whining and bitching about essentially nothing. Really, if you were at the very top of the pyramid, I highly doubt you'd complain. In a way you ARE already at the top of the WORLD pyramid, by the fact you own a computer connected to the internet, and water magically comes out of a tap warm and sanitized, ready to wash your ass with!
Instead of being greedy like the CEOs you so despise and "RAGE" on, how about helping the people below us in this pyramid of life, rather than whining about how you can't reach the top? | Reading comprehension fail hahahahah...the bolded quotes are from the article retard.
Where was I defending the author's opinion? Wow you are dense
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12-02-2009, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sid Vicious Reading comprehension fail hahahahah...the bolded quotes are from the article retard.
Where was I defending the author's opinion? Wow you are dense | Dude, a number of people who have misinterpreted your original post. That is a sign that you did a poor job of effectively getting your point across, especially considering some of the intelligent posts here, its weird that we all misread your words.
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12-02-2009, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sid Vicious Reading comprehension fail hahahahah...the bolded quotes are from the article retard.
Where was I defending the author's opinion? Wow you are dense | What'd you mean by 'rage'?
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12-02-2009, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Dude, a number of people who have misinterpreted your original post. That is a sign that you did a poor job of effectively getting your point across, especially considering some of the intelligent posts here, its weird that we all misread your words. | i think its because most people did not read the article, and skimmed my post. i should've put CLIFFS from the articles, or something even simpler Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo What'd you mean by 'rage'? | fury: a feeling of intense anger;
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12-02-2009, 01:58 PM
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The author of the article clearly has good intentions. But her ideals exist in a simple world where everything works. The issues in existence that control how society is shaped are so enormous and complex that it can't be simply solved by stealing from the very rich and giving it to the poor. The poor underclass would slowly form again from whatever avenues, and the system would quickly find itself lopsided again.
The poor and the rich have always existed, even a hundred years ago.
To be fair, and I believe other well traveled members here would agree with me, the poor in Canada and the West in general are incredibly rich when compared with the poverty seen in rural China, the slums of India, or indeed the Congo in Africa.
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12-02-2009, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by achiam The author of the article clearly has good intentions. But her ideals exist in a simple world where everything works. The issues in existence that control how society is shaped are so enormous and complex that it can't be simply solved by stealing from the very rich and giving it to the poor. The poor underclass would slowly form again from whatever avenues, and the system would quickly find itself lopsided again.
The poor and the rich have always existed, even a hundred years ago.
To be fair, and I believe other well traveled members here would agree with me, the poor in Canada and the West in general are incredibly rich when compared with the poverty seen in rural China, the slums of India, or indeed the Congo in Africa. | How does that make anyone feel any better? I'm poor in Canada but I'm better off than some guy in India. We don't live in India. That's comparing apples to oranges.
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12-02-2009, 02:39 PM
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everyone just wants to be on top
crab mentality applies to all
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12-02-2009, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bengy How does that make anyone feel any better? I'm poor in Canada but I'm better off than some guy in India. We don't live in India. That's comparing apples to oranges. | In reference to my previous post: MOVE
If you choose not to move, you choose to be poor, and that's not mine, tax-payers', or society's problem - its your problem.
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12-02-2009, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 In reference to my previous post: MOVE
If you choose not to move, you choose to be poor, and that's not mine, tax-payers', or society's problem - its your problem. | Yes, I'm gonna move to the Indian slums, cuz apparently I'm rich there!  | |
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12-02-2009, 03:18 PM
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stop being a commie.
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12-02-2009, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bengy How does that make anyone feel any better? I'm poor in Canada but I'm better off than some guy in India. We don't live in India. That's comparing apples to oranges. | I wasn't trying to make anyone feel better. My point was to emphasize that the world has never been, nor ever will, be a fair place. In fact, the same applies in nature - smarter, stronger animals kill weaker animals for food. This may be a harsh example, but it is the basic tenet of Darwinism and evolution - survival of the fittest.
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12-02-2009, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 In reference to my previous post: MOVE
If you choose not to move, you choose to be poor, and that's not mine, tax-payers', or society's problem - its your problem. |
I'm curious, have you given this any thought whatsoever?
If someone has no money, and they move to Nova Scotia, they still can't buy a house, and they still won't have a job. They'll just be living off of government assistance in Nova Scotia...which is lower because of a lower cost of living.
Don't even get me started on the whole India thing.
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12-02-2009, 07:28 PM
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Your arguement is constructed very well. 
There's just too much hyprocrisy in today's society. Quote:
Originally Posted by taylor192 I agree with MH: no.
No. Life's not fair.
The imbalance is even worse if you factor in Government employees. The typically upper management Government employee earns far more than the public (many studies have shown this, look them up), and robs it directly from the government funds this article wants directed to the poor.
This is why taxes should be low and government small. Government is a very inefficient way of getting things done.
Our country was founded and continues to grow by rich immigrants bringing their money here to invest. Now picture what happens when the opposite happens.
The better question to ask is: Why do we Canadians buy cheap junk from other countries with social/environment atrocities are far worse than here? If we're so worried about the poor, why do we turn a blind eye to these atrocities in the name of having a cheaper flat screen TV?
There's worse things in this world than the DTES.
Morales work both ways: Is it right to give money to people who continually show they are lazy and unable of being a productive or responsible part of society?
Most will say its not right to support lazy people.
Most will say its not right to see someone suffer.
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12-02-2009, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by carisear you see, i don't read those articles because it just makes me rage.
what she wants, is for her not to work or do anything, and get everything that someone whom has worked hard all their lives has. your standard left wing view. | All she has to do is get married then  | |
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12-03-2009, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by antonito
I'm curious, have you given this any thought whatsoever?
If someone has no money, and they move to Nova Scotia, they still can't buy a house, and they still won't have a job. They'll just be living off of government assistance in Nova Scotia...which is lower because of a lower cost of living.
Don't even get me started on the whole India thing. | I'm curious, have you given this any thought whatsoever?
Nova Scotia was my example, cause I could buy a house and live well off my savings. For others I expect them to move where is best for them if Vancouver is too expensive.
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