REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Automotive Chat > Vancouver Auto Chat

Vancouver Auto Chat 2016 VAC Community Head Moderator: Raid3n

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-01-2009, 10:01 PM   #1
My homepage has been set to RS
 
03c0upe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Van
Posts: 2,082
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
icbc injury claim accident

i got in a car accident few months ago and my adjuster said i have 2months to go to therapy in which icbc will cover. i went to physio for awhile and it didn't help me. so now i want to try massage therapy or something else and my adjuster said no u had 2 months for that. but my doctor said i shouldn't try physio and massage at the same time. i don't have a lawyer, what can i do this about this? can i get a different adjuster? my adjuster just wants me to settle, but im not recovered.
Advertisement
03c0upe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2009, 10:25 PM   #2
RS.net Licensed Sponsor Dealer
 
Autorice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: AutoRice.com
Posts: 1,962
Thanked 74 Times in 37 Posts
getting a different adjust won't help you. if you are still injured then you need to get a lawyer. take the advice from your doctor and get whatever therapy you require but keep receipts for everything. if you can photocopy the referal notes from your doctor to the specialist, you can bring them to your adjuster.

and don't settle, talk to a lawyer. they will charge 40-50% of your settlement but won't charge anything until the case is closed.
Autorice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2009, 10:54 PM   #3
VLS Moderator
 
Senna4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 16,351
Thanked 2,591 Times in 832 Posts
I think the going rate for most lawyers is 33%. You have 2 years from the date of your accident to settle, so take your time. I waited until 1 week before the deadline to start my fight against ICBC. Go to your doctor on a regular basis...just be honest. If you are not at fault, and ICBC has ruled 100% in your favour then you have nothing to fear. It may take time, but your settlement may be larger if you are patient. I got much more than I would have gotten had I not waited.

Were you hurt badly? Of course, how much you are entitled to depends on your injuries.
__________________
2007 Volvo V50
Taken by ex: 2005 Toyota Prius.
R.I.P. 1997 Lexus ES300.
R.I.P. 1989 Acura Legend Coupe LS.
Senna4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 12:22 AM   #4
My name is Michael. J. Caboose, and I hate BABIES!
 
Inaii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MoI
Posts: 6,576
Thanked 1,421 Times in 678 Posts
It's actually a law that they aren't allowed to charge more than 33% of the total settlement. But like Senna and Autorice are saying, get a lawyer.
__________________
"Can you match my resolve? If so then you will succeed. I believe that the human spirit is indomitable. If you endeavour to achieve, it will happen given enough resolve." -- Monty Oum

Quote:
Originally Posted by STATUS105 View Post
IF I FIND YOU
I WILL EAT YOUR RICE!
Inaii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 07:41 AM   #5
Banned (BBM)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 16,142
Thanked 627 Times in 368 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inaii View Post
It's actually a law that they aren't allowed to charge more than 33% of the total settlement. But like Senna and Autorice are saying, get a lawyer.
is this confirmed? no more than 33%/
Mugen EvOlutioN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 10:30 AM   #6
My name is Michael. J. Caboose, and I hate BABIES!
 
Inaii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MoI
Posts: 6,576
Thanked 1,421 Times in 678 Posts
Well considering that's what the lawyer told me when I went in for a consult week before last, I'm going to go with yes.
__________________
"Can you match my resolve? If so then you will succeed. I believe that the human spirit is indomitable. If you endeavour to achieve, it will happen given enough resolve." -- Monty Oum

Quote:
Originally Posted by STATUS105 View Post
IF I FIND YOU
I WILL EAT YOUR RICE!
Inaii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 10:39 AM   #7
My homepage has been set to RS
 
03c0upe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Van
Posts: 2,082
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
will me getting a lawyer give me more rights, such as icbc paying for my rehab. massage etc? If i dont want a lawyer whats the best approach? When my adjuster makes an offer i should say no is to low? should i tell my adjuster im thinking of getting a lawyer, so that way my adjuster will consider paying for more therapy?
03c0upe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 11:18 AM   #8
CRS
ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
 
CRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 14,957
Thanked 6,310 Times in 1,777 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03c0upe View Post
will me getting a lawyer give me more rights, such as icbc paying for my rehab. massage etc? If i dont want a lawyer whats the best approach? When my adjuster makes an offer i should say no is to low? should i tell my adjuster im thinking of getting a lawyer, so that way my adjuster will consider paying for more therapy?
Those are all questions a lawyer can answer in a free consultation.

Or you can go to the UBC free legal advise site.
__________________
Revscene Classifieds Moderator

My FeedBack 53-0-0
CRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 02:09 PM   #9
Banned (ABWS)
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Richmond
Posts: 5,138
Thanked 2,216 Times in 510 Posts
what is your guys' take on a 50/50 settlement?

should the victim still bother with a lawyer even though it's a 50/50 settlement

(No witnesses) and there's no real way to argue to win a 100/0 settlement?
illicitstylz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 03:25 PM   #10
OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
 
Leopold Stotch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 6,044
Thanked 315 Times in 149 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03c0upe View Post
i got in a car accident few months ago and my adjuster said i have 2months to go to therapy in which icbc will cover. i went to physio for awhile and it didn't help me. so now i want to try massage therapy or something else and my adjuster said no u had 2 months for that. but my doctor said i shouldn't try physio and massage at the same time. i don't have a lawyer, what can i do this about this? can i get a different adjuster? my adjuster just wants me to settle, but im not recovered.
i just talked to icbc today about my accident

what the guy explained to me was ICBC can't tell you not to listen to your doctor's orders.

if your doctor recommends or tells you to get massage therapy they can't really say you're not allowed to, and if you're the victim they should cover it

at least that's how the person i was on the phone with explained it to me.
__________________
1996 Honda Accord
1995 Nissan 240sx
2004 Infiniti G35
2005 Honda Jazz

BuySell Feedback
Quote:
"It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good ... They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time. "
Leopold Stotch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 04:30 PM   #11
Rs has made me the woman i am today!
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Richmond
Posts: 4,457
Thanked 2,259 Times in 439 Posts
What you should do is talk to the lawyer and ask them how much do you think you will get?

ie. ICBC wants to settle for $5000.
Lawyer thinks you can get $9000.. after 40% fees = $5400

is that $400 worth it?

you should try to figure out the quotes before you make a decision!
hope you're okay and recover 100% good luck!

Last edited by TheKingdom2000; 12-02-2009 at 04:32 PM. Reason: not reliable information
TheKingdom2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 04:34 PM   #12
Banned (ABWS)
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Richmond
Posts: 5,138
Thanked 2,216 Times in 510 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leopold Stotch View Post

if your doctor recommends or tells you to get massage therapy they can't really say you're not allowed to, and if you're the victim they should cover it


That's where the gray area would be. I was in the same situation, I was allowed to go to my allocated 8 sessions with my chiropractor after my accident. After that, even with consent from my chiropractor to continue my treatment, the adjustor wouldn't allow it. He said the chiropractor is a business as well and they're just trying to make money, however, isn't ICBC a business just as much as the chiropractor firm is?

I'd double check because of course ICBC can't tell you not to go to treatment, it's just a matter of whether they'll be willing to pay for it.
illicitstylz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 06:06 PM   #13
OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
 
Leopold Stotch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 6,044
Thanked 315 Times in 149 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by illicitstylz View Post
That's where the gray area would be. I was in the same situation, I was allowed to go to my allocated 8 sessions with my chiropractor after my accident. After that, even with consent from my chiropractor to continue my treatment, the adjustor wouldn't allow it. He said the chiropractor is a business as well and they're just trying to make money, however, isn't ICBC a business just as much as the chiropractor firm is?

I'd double check because of course ICBC can't tell you not to go to treatment, it's just a matter of whether they'll be willing to pay for it.
It's not up to them.

it's up to your doctor. go see your doctor, if your docotor says you need more sessions icbc can't decline. after you're allocated amount of sessions you have to get like re-evaluated or something at the doctors, which was true with my case.

hope that's helpful
__________________
1996 Honda Accord
1995 Nissan 240sx
2004 Infiniti G35
2005 Honda Jazz

BuySell Feedback
Quote:
"It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good ... They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time. "
Leopold Stotch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 06:38 PM   #14
Ready to be Man handled by RS!
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 75
Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts
A friend of mine was in a serious accident (rear ended) and suffered serious back and neck injuries which prevented them from working or sitting. ICBC said they would offer $2k take it or leave it. My friend hired a lawyer and 4 years later (yes, 4, I don't know how ICBC managed to drag it out that long), they got $130k (minus 30% for lawyer).
Another person I know was hit twice by a car while crossing the sidewalk (in the span of 2 years), they had to be in the hospital for a month in one case and a week in the other (both cases it was the drivers fault). ICBC offered $2k (as usual) and they took it (needed money because they couldn't work). They could have easily got $200k plus if they hired a lawyer.

NEVER SETTLE ON YOUR OWN WITH ICBC. Go to another doctor and get them to give you something to show that you need more sessions. ICBC uses all the doctor stuff against you, so make sure your doctor is 100% on your side.
ivanz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2009, 07:48 AM   #15
Banned (ABWS)
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Richmond
Posts: 5,138
Thanked 2,216 Times in 510 Posts
Lol they offered my 2k too. Obviously declined.
Just waiting out the two years to see how their offer pans out
Posted via RS Mobile
illicitstylz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2009, 11:51 AM   #16
My homepage has been set to RS
 
03c0upe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Van
Posts: 2,082
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leopold Stotch View Post
It's not up to them.

it's up to your doctor. go see your doctor, if your docotor says you need more sessions icbc can't decline. after you're allocated amount of sessions you have to get like re-evaluated or something at the doctors, which was true with my case.

hope that's helpful
I told my adjuster that my doctor recommended massage therapy, my adjuster said no its our "policy" that we cant cover after 2monthes of accident. She also said if you think massage therapy will really help you, you should spend your own money on it and at least you will get better. Adjuster said shes ready to settle, i told her id think about it i dont know the offer.
03c0upe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2009, 09:14 PM   #17
OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
 
Leopold Stotch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 6,044
Thanked 315 Times in 149 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03c0upe View Post
I told my adjuster that my doctor recommended massage therapy, my adjuster said no its our "policy" that we cant cover after 2monthes of accident. She also said if you think massage therapy will really help you, you should spend your own money on it and at least you will get better. Adjuster said shes ready to settle, i told her id think about it i dont know the offer.
that's shitty to hear,

iuno what their rules are for massage therapy

but i was allocated 12 sessions for physio and i ended up using it all
revisiting my doctor and doing another 12 sessions. and it was all covered and ICBC was okay with it.

it also depends on the severity of the accident i suppose.
__________________
1996 Honda Accord
1995 Nissan 240sx
2004 Infiniti G35
2005 Honda Jazz

BuySell Feedback
Quote:
"It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good ... They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time. "
Leopold Stotch is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net