New Proposed Left turn Lanes on 57th and Knight
 

So i live in the area, and they sent me a letter recently about some new left turn lanes etc etc.

here's a shot of the diagram.
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so what they're proposing is to have TWO left turn lanes going westbound on 57th onto Knight st southbound and to have a left turn lane in both directions south and north on Knight st.

they're goign to have to removed the sidewalk on one side of knight st to make way for the extra lane, which will be construction and more delays for drivers.

i've been living in that area since i was 4, and i think with the dual turning lanes onto knight st bridge, more people will be able to get onto knight st, but not necessarily make your commute quicker as the bridge is normally quite backed up anyhow.

Seems like they're going to initiate this next year and it''ll be a trial run before anything is finalized.

so what do you guys think? will it be safer? will it be quicker?

YES!!!!! Southbound is terrible since the left lane is always super long with people trying to left turn. Northbound you always get d-bags who left turn during prohibited hours.

its about freakin time its always so packed during rush hours there

I don't really get the dual westbound left turn lanes, in my experience that lane is rarely ever that busy.

Where they really need left turn lanes are at Knight and 33rd.

I go by that intersection at least twice a day since I live around there and go to work in Richmond. Knight is 3 lanes anyways and rarely will people turn onto 57th from Knight, either southbound or northbound. I guess it will make my commute faster, but not by a lot.

They should instead put no left turn signs on 60-63th st. when going downhill (southbound) on Knight towards richmond. I've seen very many near accidents when somebody is tail gating and suddenly have to hard brake because the person in front is turning left onto those streets. Nobody will stick by the speed limit going downhill anyways.

Got a letter in the mail last week about this.
Wasn't there a meeting that discussed about experimenting the two left turn lane or has it already been approved?

might as well, i see douchebags doing illegal left turns in the non-turning lane in rush hour all the time. at least this way they wont cause an accident b/c people will be expecting another car turning next to them

not really necessary southbound imo. i used to live on knight and going down towards richmond every day, 9/10 times there are no left turners on 57th at 830am.

going northbound is a little different. you cant turn left on 57th during the day so ppl turn left, right before the chevron (drives me crazy) and all along side streets intersecting knight. hate that! they def need the turning lane northbound.

Housing is gonna get raped again. They removed some of the sidewalk many many years ago. Now the houses have no front lawns or sidwalks. LOl so sad...

^^ that's the price of living near a major road artery.
that's just the way the cookie crumbles..

you mean westbound lanes... the two left turn lanes is on the east side.. but that doesn't mean it's eastbound...

anyways. having two turn lanes is fine at 57th because at the moment, there are two lanes that go westbound that no one really uses. So having one west bound lane would be fine. And after knight, 57th street is only one lane anyways..

what they need to do is pave over every body of water so that there are no bridges to bottleneck us.

heh, actually i don't mind this trial. at least it will service ALOT more people than that fucking cycling lane 'trial' on burrard st. bridge.

dual left turn lanes on 57th 2thumbsup.

usually... trial = permanent.

Look at Burrard bike lanes... 2 weeks of trials and boom, its permanent - even though during the trial it proved to be a headache for many people

so is this like the 7-11 one? lol sweet i have to left turn there to get home afterschool :)
yay for traffic haha

Quoted for Truth. I'm going to extend this and say they need left turn lanes on almost all the 33rd ave intersections. I've witnessed too many accidents at 33rd and Granville alone.

left turn lanes would be useful. no parking anytime on knight and that section of 57 would ease traffic a lot. the only thing that concerns me is how slow they would build it.

before they spend the money just for one more left turn lane, which I think is useless... please fix the two small bumps westbound on 57th ave first
One is near the crosswalk and the other one right before where the left turn lane is. Anybody noticed it at all?

dual left turn lanes would be very usefull during rush hour, i used to commute that way and it was a sure pain in the ass.

Sometimes during rush hour, it is a problem where the left turn lane gets so backed up that it overflows onto the straight through lane and stops traffic...

^ Canada Way/Willingdon intersection left turn towards BCIT, the straight-through lane is always backed up cause someone is trying to cut in or it's just really backed up.

yeah, i've experienced this. i'm all for the idea. they should also have this on 33rd and knight. 41st and victoria should have this as well. damn annoying with left lane turners.

so 7-11 side is getting riped up?

If they make the left turn lanes on Knight and 57th with advance left turn lights, traffic gonna be back up even more

They should have just kept the Fraser street bridge with an expansion of 6 lanes. :/

there was a Fraser street bridge?

While this extra left turn lane sounds good on paper, I'm not sure if it is necessary. This is gonna fill up Knight Street with cars coming in from the east end of 57th. It won't allow those coming from the north or west to cross that intersection.

WAIT A SEC.

Are these just new left turn LANES? and NO lights?
because right now. at that intersection the only left turn LIGHT is going westbound turning onto Knight street.

or are they proposing to put left turn lights on all 4 intersections? and if they are.. that is stupid..
going eastbound on 57th does not need a left turn light at all.