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Old 12-16-2009, 10:56 PM   #26
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i rather donate my own time than money .........why is people donating ? for a good cause? to help the poor ? to help a homeless guy on the street? All of the above... but im pretty sure many people who donate are because of the tax deduction
Not saying its a good thing, hell... i rather donate to people then send it all back to government... but the whole donating ideal is twisted
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Yea I am pretty sure the reason there are more "giving" ppl in the US is because there are far more millionaires in the US who are doing it for tax purposes. I mean I am not saying that's the only reason they do it, but statistically speaking it makes us look bad.
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How hard is it to donate some of your pocket change?
Donate some of your change and let the volunteers go home earlier.
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I wonder how they got the 23%.. seems kinda made up.
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What bugs me is I saw a giant truck outside of safeway accepting food donations. Walk into safeway and the first thing you see are prepackaged donation kits for $10. You are a big corporation, donate the fucking things yourselves.
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I'm not surprised only 23% donate, just reading the posts on RS from all the cold hearted, stuck up, ignorant assholes is proof enough that most ppl don't care
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I'm not surprised only 23% donate, just reading the posts on RS from all the cold hearted, stuck up, ignorant assholes is proof enough that most ppl don't care
I don't get it. What's wrong with having a 23% donation rate? How about you tell us what is a suitable percentage??

If you think about it, 23% is quite high for an expensive living city. You do realized that not everyone is baller like you StylinRed.

You make me sick by calling people who aren't baller like you and aren't living on the street cold hearted, stuck up, ignorant assholes.
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you guys should help donate to this thing , its for a good cause + chicks dig this shit.


for 11$ at any BC LIQUOR STORE you can purchase a bear in which another bear identical to it will be donated to needy kids

i have bought these bears for my exs/gfs/hot chicks and they totally love them + you tell them its for charity and its a win-win situation


Each year, during the holiday season, BC Liquor Stores invite customers to Share A Bear to support a good cause. For $11, customers choose one bear to take home while its twin is donated to a shelter, hospital or other worthwhile charity to brighten the holiday season for a child.

The 2009-10 bears each wear a tartan scarf - one is a black bear and the other, a white bear - each as cuddly and soft as can be.

Last year, thanks to BC Liquor Store customers, more than 30,000 bears were donated to children in various hospitals, shelters and special homes throughout the province. Since the program began in 1989, more than 288,000 bears have been donated to British Columbia charities.

Share A Bear this year and help brighten the holiday season for a child!



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I don't get it. What's wrong with having a 23% donation rate? How about you tell us what is a suitable percentage??

If you think about it, 23% is quite high for an expensive living city. You do realized that not everyone is baller like you StylinRed.

You make me sick by calling people who aren't baller like you and aren't living on the street cold hearted, stuck up, ignorant assholes.
what are you stupid??

it says only 23% of THE POPULATION that means 77% of PPL DONT GIVE SHIT not they're only giving 23% of their money away...

get it... out of 100 people only 23 people donated anything the other 77 just keep walking


edit: not Don't give a shit but dont give anything read what it says "ppl dont give shit" and as i siad in my prior post im sure its because MOST of them are assholes

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If I do donate I do it anonymously. Nothing worse then making donations then having that agency hound you nonstop for more money. I'll donate when I want to when I have extra money not because you called me and harassed me into it.
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30-40% of Canadians pay zero income tax cause they don't make enough $$$. So realistically, the 23% is of 60-70% and about 1 out of 3 people that have enough money to donate.
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pfff i barely have enough for myself, forget about the donation


if ppl cant even help themself, how can they help others
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pfff i barely have enough for myself, forget about the donation


if ppl cant even help themself, how can they help others
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There's too many different causes to donate to, plus I'm not even sure if all of our money(only 20% has to be donated) is going towards the cause. Nonetheless I still donate.
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Before I go on a rant, I have always donated money to organizations and also volunteered my time. Some of you might think it means very little since I have an abundance of free time now but I used to do this even when I was working a full time job and had the stresses of the average person.

One thing that I do not donate to are large organizations such as United Way etc. I am not suggesting they are bad, or it is bad to donate to them but when I learned how much of my money was REALLY getting to the end user I decided I was going to find another way. Now, I donate about 10% of my earned income to churches that actually donate their time to help others. If I give them $10,000, I know that every penny of that is going towards helping people. I volunteer my time to these organizations to buy the food and clothes etc so I know where every cent is going plus I'm giving my time, which is the most precious thing that anyone can give.

The fact that BC donates what they donate does not surprise me considering the cost of living vs. income is highest in the lower mainland versus most other places worldwide.

A recent stat suggests that over 70% of the average family income is used to pay for their own home. We have an all time low savings rate and in Vancouver specifically, a negative savings rate (which means we spend more than we take in).

Here is the problem. Many of us claim to care because we simply look like total assholes if we outright say we don't give a shit. It's actually trendy to give to the poor because it makes us look socially responsible. "Wow, look how civilized we are." "I care about other people and I'm a good person."

Then, we vote for events and statues of law that clearly do NOT help those less fortunate. Then we think that putting a couple cans of food and an old sweater is going to solve the problem. Before I go on, YES it is our problem. If you don't think so, why has there been projects that our tax dollars have funded to get the homeless people out of sight during the Olympics? When vandalism and crime increase it's an effect on our high homeless population as well.

On that note, lets use the Olympics as an example. The day it was announced, the first thing that crossed my mind was, "how much over budget are we going to be." The cost overruns of the Olympics alone would help a significant number of working class families AND poor/homeless people.

Of course, we were told it would make money which is absolute bullshit. Look at this province's track record! We have not done a thing that has not ended up resulting in increased taxes due to overspending.

I'd like to see someone care enough to give up their cars or stop paying $300 for a pair of jeans. I think deep down people care, but they say they care a lot more than they do because it's the 'right' thing to do. There is nothing wrong with this but so many people like to play the humanitarian roll while sucking on their parents trust fund.

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what are you stupid??

it says only 23% of THE POPULATION that means 77% of the PPL DONT GIVE SHIT not they're only giving 23% of their money away...

get it... out of 100 people only 23 people donated anything the other 77 just keep walking
No, you are dumb. Get your facts straight. I never said ppl gave away 23% of their total wealth. I completely understood that it was 23 / 100 people who donated anything at all.

I don't see a problem with only 23 / 100 ppl actually donating anything at all. I said this city is expensive as hell to live in. In other words, you should expect 77 / 100 ppl feeding their family on their pay cheques. Also, you need to take note that many ppl have cars and houses mortgaged. Not everyone is rich like you, so I would appreciate it if you don't call poor ppl assholes just because they have no spare money to donate. Also, have you considered those poor people who provide weekly free service to this city and don't donate? I'm pretty sure those amazingly wonderful people belong in the 77%, and I really don't think you should be calling them assholes because that is mean.

YOU NEED TO REMEMBER that this reported 77% of not donating includes everyone such as homeless bums, single moms with 7 children, ppl with no left over money at the end of each month, etc.. I don't like ppl who call single moms living on their pay-cheques assholes. Hence, you sicken me.

So if you take all that into consideration, 23% is about right.
Obviously this article wants more ppl to donate, therefore instead of only having the rich population it takes into an account of the poor ppl. In that case, I don't see a problem with 23%. I would agree with you if they neglected the bums and homeless, but they didn't.

Come'on man.. I know you're a smart guy since you've been around RS for such a long time, but can you seriously not let that article manipulate your thinking?
Think about what it wants. It wants ppl to feel guilty and donate, so obviously the 23% is calculated by (ppl who donated)/(total population). 23% isn't bad, and I don't see why you are complaining and being mean to the hardworking poor.
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77% of the PPL DONT GIVE SHIT
Think outside the bun. Just because they don't donate money doesn't mean they don't give a shit. Come'on StylinRed.. use your head and try to realize what I'm trying to say here. YOU CAN DO IT!!!


oh ya.. my objective here is not to get into a war with you but to help you realized that you shouldn't stereotype everyone who doesn't donate as assholes. Obviously, you're right to some degree. In that 77% there are way more actual assholes than non assholes, but should you be stereotyping them all??????

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me too i hate bandwagon jumpsters

in multiple threads i've seen just 1 individual with a herd of sheep behind.
i'd be scared to meet some of uguys in life

i think 23% is pretty good. people donate to other places too
they aren't really donating but buying happiness in giving.
not everybodys' happiness is in giving
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It's sad. I know I haven't donated a dime in years. Maybe it's time to change.
actually 100% of british columbians make donations... by force... to the government..
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they help families in need, and its family that helps us stay together
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No, you are dumb. Get your facts straight. I never said ppl gave away 23% of their total wealth. I completely understood that it was 23 / 100 people who donated anything at all.

I don't see a problem with only 23 / 100 ppl actually donating anything at all. I said this city is expensive as hell to live in. In other words, you should expect 77 / 100 ppl feeding their family on their pay cheques. Also, you need to take note that many ppl have cars and houses mortgaged. Not everyone is rich like you, so I would appreciate it if you don't call poor ppl assholes just because they have no spare money to donate. Also, have you considered those poor people who provide weekly free service to this city and don't donate? I'm pretty sure those amazingly wonderful people belong in the 77%, and I really don't think you should be calling them assholes because that is mean.

YOU NEED TO REMEMBER that this reported 77% of not donating includes everyone such as homeless bums, single moms with 7 children, ppl with no left over money at the end of each month, etc.. I don't like ppl who call single moms living on their pay-cheques assholes. Hence, you sicken me.

So if you take all that into consideration, 23% is about right.
Obviously this article wants more ppl to donate, therefore instead of only having the rich population it takes into an account of the poor ppl. In that case, I don't see a problem with 23%. I would agree with you if they neglected the bums and homeless, but they didn't.

Come'on man.. I know you're a smart guy since you've been around RS for such a long time, but can you seriously not let that article manipulate your thinking?
Think about what it wants. It wants ppl to feel guilty and donate, so obviously the 23% is calculated by (ppl who donated)/(total population). 23% isn't bad, and I don't see why you are complaining and being mean to the hardworking poor.
i may have been confused by your english

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^^^ reading that to me says a 23% donation rate = percentage of funds and then "what is a suitable percentage??" = how much money should people be giving

but your new reply is saying something different

which doesn't make sense as to why you'd harp on me... as my original message was harping on people who post in RS in threads about the homeless where they clearly don't give a shit about the homeless and have a mentality that people who need help deserve no help because they got in that position themselves.

for some reason you're confusing "just reading the posts on RS from all the cold hearted, stuck up, ignorant assholes is proof enough that most ppl don't care " as being directed to people who can't afford to donate.

are you saying the cold hearted, stuck up ignorant assholes on RS are all poor? i still don't get how you made your association with people who couldn't afford to donate


you're clearly either stupid (well not stupid but inadequate english/comprehension?) or trying to put words in my mouth









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Think outside the bun. Just because they don't donate money doesn't mean they don't give a shit. Come'on StylinRed.. use your head and try to realize what I'm trying to say here. YOU CAN DO IT!!!


oh ya.. my objective here is not to get into a war with you but to help you realized that you shouldn't stereotype everyone who doesn't donate as assholes. Obviously, you're right to some degree. In that 77% there are way more actual assholes than non assholes, but should you be stereotyping them all??????
i said 77% of the rest of "ppl don't give shit" i didnt say they dont give A shit and i clearly used the word "MOST" in my original post as i've underlined for you above

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