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Kamui712 12-19-2009 01:31 AM

fights tend to be up close hand to hand and more often than not end up on the ground.

Boxing, Wing Chun, JuJitsu are pretty good.

I've done various martial arts, Jujitsu was really good for on the ground and submissions. Boxing and wing chun are good for fast/accurate hits.

Really... it depends most on who's teaching, and your own abilities.

I'd recommend NOT fighting at all if possible.

SkinnyPupp 12-19-2009 03:40 AM

Learn some BJJ. You will get mad street cred if you put a guy in a triangle during a fight! ;)

CanadaGoose 12-19-2009 07:48 AM

The best self defense is not looking like a sucker to begin with... your friend should've NEVER been walking at night with headphones on, that was a very dumb idea. You wouldn't walk around blind folded at night, so why would anyone walk around with basically ear plugs in? Building that street sense and always being aware of the situation you're in is going to help you a lot more then any self defense class ever will.

But for self defense, you NEED a weapon. Because it doesn't matter how much training in anything you have, if someone rushes you with a pipe, a bat, a machete or an icepick, you're done. So keep a weapon in your trunk, and if something goes down, make a run for your car (yes, run away first) and THEN decide if you want to come back. Otherwise just run and stay away safe, or if you really think it's worth it use your car as a weapon. Getting jumped on the streets is no joke, people get mangled, their faces busted over curbs, stabbed with dirty weapons, put in wheelchairs for life... don't believe you have to stay and fight, you can always run and live to fight another day.

LengJai 12-19-2009 07:50 AM

well as eclypz said, learn to walk away
at my gym, tho we train muay thai, BJJ, best method, is ALWAYS the ABCs
Avoid [the problem first hand]
Breathe [relax yourself, dont' get yourself heated]
Communicate [Use your words]

following those is, if all else fails, then kick the guy's ass
but in all circumstances, it all starts with avoiding, whether it be avoiding situations where shit could occur, avoiding areas, certain gatherings, people, etc etc

besides, once you have the ability to severly hurt someone, you don't want to. for me anyway, i am a real hothead, but ever since i started training a few years ago, my temper has gone down cuz of the responsibility

like spiderman says, with great power comes great responsbility, use your spidey sense and try to bang felicia harding and mary jane at the same time

CanadaGoose 12-19-2009 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LengJai (Post 6735021)
like spiderman says, with great power comes great responsbility, use your spidey sense and try to bang felicia harding and mary jane at the same time

Wahh~ ho leng jai, because SPIDEYSENSE is going to help you more then any martial art on the street. Avoiding getting yourself into a situation is a lot easier then trying to dig your way out of one.

GLOW 12-19-2009 09:07 AM

just take a self defense course and boxing as stated above. self defense courses should teach you how to act, think, and avoid being a victim if possible. such as not walking around at night with headphones on, taking away a vital sense: hearing. and also when you know there's trouble you cant get out of, how to look meek and use surprise to your advantage.

and whoever said tai chi is useless, i hope that's a joke

jeff_alexander 12-19-2009 09:46 AM

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SkinnyPupp 12-19-2009 09:57 AM

Press play :D

Supafly 12-19-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6735117)

:haha:

spoon.ek9 12-19-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by s2k_powa (Post 6734870)
spoon.ek9: Nothing in particular but I mean the flashy stuff, like some martial-arts are extremely flashy and could easily be countered.

"Sprinting" is a good idea but your SO or family member might not be as quick of a runner as you.

azzurro32: Exactly! I doubt busting an arm-bar or something of the likes is any useful during a all-out street fight. Boxing is a good suggestion or maybe kick-boxing might be good too.

if you're talking about something like wushu, then yes i agree. you're not exactly gonna do a no-hand cartwheel in a street fight :lol

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Originally Posted by PiuYi (Post 6734755)
"tai gik" granny style :lol

just because a technique is practiced slow, does not mean it's useless ;)
you'd be surprised how many grannies and grandpas who would kick your ass

nack 12-19-2009 10:27 AM

krav maga, hands down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcyrGuUnmMk

EDIT: if you get bullied, send a video explaining your problem to Mayhem from Bully Beatdown. :{D

s2k_powa 12-19-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by E N D L E S S (Post 6735020)
The best self defense is not looking like a sucker to begin with... your friend should've NEVER been walking at night with headphones on, that was a very dumb idea. You wouldn't walk around blind folded at night, so why would anyone walk around with basically ear plugs in? Building that street sense and always being aware of the situation you're in is going to help you a lot more then any self defense class ever will.

It's best you don't jump to conclusions :) It was around 3:30-4:30pm, even in the Winter the sun would still be brightly visible. I never asked him if he had his headphones on or not, so I wouldn't jump to that conclusion as well.

cococly 12-19-2009 10:57 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZGL-JIs3as

GFunk 12-19-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by s2k_powa (Post 6734311)
That's false. For instance my friend was walking home and he had a pair of earphones on, they weren't even white or ipod ones. The guys kicked the shit outta him and jacked him up. I'm sure he didn't provoke them or anything cause hes one of the nicest guys I know.

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Originally Posted by s2k_powa (Post 6735175)
It's best you don't jump to conclusions :) It was around 3:30-4:30pm, even in the Winter the sun would still be brightly visible. I never asked him if he had his headphones on or not, so I wouldn't jump to that conclusion as well.

Why wouldn't he assume that his headphone were on considering YOU were the one that said they were in the first place

s2k_powa 12-19-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GFunk (Post 6735186)
Why wouldn't he assume that his headphone were on considering YOU were the one that said they were in the first place

Ooo I can see how that can be miss-interpreted. My bad, but I'm not sure if he had them on or took them off when he was walking or when he just got off the bus. :thumbsup: better?

AzNightmare 12-19-2009 11:31 AM

In my opinion, people should learn/train martial arts because to stay fit and for the enjoyment of learning the martial art.

It can be used for self defense, but probably best if you would never have to use it outside of an official event.

Too many factors take place in a street fight for any martial arts to really be practical.
And if you get jumped by a few guys... chances are, you wouldn't stand a chance anyway.

Real Life is not like Ong Bak and Jackie Chan movies.

spyker 12-19-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jlo mein (Post 6734856)
I've heard there's Krav Maga training in downtown Vancouver. Always thought about trying it but I would prefer to go with a friend and none of mine are interested.

There is,I think 2-3 places that teach it,but I want to learn it from this particular instructor in L.A.He is one of the best in the world when it comes to Krav Maga.You should just go yourself,you will quickly make new friends while your learning.

To OP,never carry a weapon on you if you don't know how to use it,especially if your being confronted.The last thing you want to happen is have the weapon being taken away from you and used against you by the attacker.

kangel 12-19-2009 04:45 PM

Like what endless said, use a weapon. go to canadian tires and buy urself a can of bearmace and use it when u feal threaten

Gh0stRider 12-19-2009 05:39 PM

hehe..bas rutten

Ch28 12-19-2009 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlo mein (Post 6734856)
I've heard there's Krav Maga training in downtown Vancouver. Always thought about trying it but I would prefer to go with a friend and none of mine are interested.

To OP: Best self-defense technique to learn would be sprinting. Being able to quickly avoid a fight is the best self-defense.

Msg 7seven.

He has krav maga training and will be able to point you in the right direction.

Gh0stRider 12-19-2009 05:49 PM

fitness world offers Krav Maga, but don't go there..lol

GabAlmighty 12-19-2009 08:29 PM

I can beat up everyone, I have no fear. hahaha

dimsum119 12-20-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Eclypz (Post 6734271)
Just learn to walk away...it's more effective.

Knowing how to fight gets you into more trouble than you know. It's always in the back of your mind that "I'm probably more trained than this guy...let's put my 3 years fighting training to use". Trained fighters don't walk away from fights....an untrained person will, and it's almost always the better decision.

And all it takes is for the guy to pull weapon on you....game over.

I tend to disagree in my own case anyways, Ive had 9 yrs of training in muay thai and a 7 years in bjj. For myself, knowing how to fight and what I CAN do the person has stopped me from fighting adn also the training helps you calm down and attempt to talk it out first.

I believe the ones who don't know how to fight would be the ones actually scrapping it out because they have something to prove whether to themselves or others. Ones who train extensively for a long tend not to fight unless absolutely forced to.

notching 12-20-2009 11:08 AM

learn sanshou

GabAlmighty 12-20-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dimsum119 (Post 6736154)
I tend to disagree in my own case anyways, Ive had 9 yrs of training in muay thai and a 7 years in bjj. For myself, knowing how to fight and what I CAN do the person has stopped me from fighting adn also the training helps you calm down and attempt to talk it out first.

I believe the ones who don't know how to fight would be the ones actually scrapping it out because they have something to prove whether to themselves or others. Ones who train extensively for a long tend not to fight unless absolutely forced to.

I agree with this. It teaches you discipline and self control. All that matters is that YOU know what you can do to the guy.


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