Thanks Super Dipper. Pretty much laid it out nicely. That's what I've noticed with UPS though, they do a lot of "safe drops".

ya UPS is bad for it. I was home one day and they dropped a shipment at my door and peaced out. didnt knock on the door or even make an attempt.

General protocol is to at least "attempt" the delivery, well for canada post that is. UPS is most likely under a different set of provisions and regulations.

Ill be honest, id rather do a safe drop if i can, but i still have to ring the door bell and wait to get an answer. The general rule of thumb for parcel driver and carriers is:

1) ring the door bell
2) as soon as you ring the bell, you begin to fill out the Delivery Notification Card (those white cards we leave that tell where you can go pick up your package after a failed delivery attempt)
3) as soon as we finish filling out the card and no one has answered, we can leave the notice card on your door and we can take off to the next delivery.
4) if you show up to the door midway through me writing out the card, i save the card for the next delivery, or if ive filled out the whole thing, i tear it up, hand over the package and leave for the next delivery.

Safe drops are tricky. I cant speak for other letter carriers/parcel drivers, but the largest package ill drop as a "safe drop" item is usually no bigger than a shoe box. with a package that size, at least i can sort of hide it out the way from the typical passer by. Anything larger and you're asking for it to be jacked.

and ill admit, safe drops are so much easier and on a busy day esp during xmas, but we gotta be concious of where we drop your items and in a manner that keeps them away from those not so prominent members of society.

not surprised

Video don't work no mo'

damn thieves
some people worked hard to buy those items

I have a friend who is a driver for one of the carriers (UPS, Fedex, Purolator, DHL, ...) and often tells stories of how he abuses packages. Its difficult to meet the schedule they demand, so packages often get tossed and damaged, especially ones from big companies (Dell, FS, BB, ...) where the drivers know the recipient will complain to the big company, not the shipping company.

I would never have a TV shipped based on knowing this. Think about how little the driver cares if your new $2000 50" TV gets delivered without being banged around, and they are the only one in the truck to man-handle the large package.

I don't know about this one... I mean, if the package has been thrown around and shows signs of being abused, even if the customer complains to the seller, the seller really should turn around and complain to the carrier, and ask for compensation...

A box doesn't need to show physical damage in order for the product inside to be broken. The impact shock of dropping a box flat on its face can possibly shatter something inside, but will still leave the box looking relatively solid.

I've dealt with a lot of shady drivers from all the different carriers. We've had stuff "mysteriously" disappear while being shipped from a store to mine. They show as being scanned onto a UPS truck, only to suddenly have no more information come through. Another way I've seen it happen is when the company comes by for a pickup for a tag that's done electronically, they don't bother scanning it onto their truck.

This man knows what he is talking about. :thumbsup:

My friend would joke about throwing packages when he worked inside the warehouse. A box can take a lot of punishment, and if it gets too damaged - it gets "lost", and the company pays for it. Often the warehouse guys will lookout for the drivers, cause most warehouse guys eventually want to be a driver (pays better) and know the favour will be returned.

haha my mailman is huge pot head, he's super nice tho and i usually pass by him as I leave my house for school

nvm.

:eek: damn

LOL, I came in this thread thinking how the hell does a 16 year old kid become a "veteran" in anything.

Then I realized I misinterpret the thread title.