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Old 12-24-2009, 11:37 PM   #1
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16 year old Veteran UPS driver accused of stealing $40000 worth of customers packages

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FAIRFIELD, Calif. -- A 16-year United Parcel Service veteran is accused of stealing packages.


At least one UPS employee at the shipping company's Fairfield distribution center apparently took part in the theft of more than $40,000 worth of packages since April, police said.

Authorities on Wednesday booked Fairfield resident Ronald P. Lozano, 38, into jail in Solano County on suspicion of grand theft, possession of stolen property and embezzlement.

Investigators said items stolen include video games, laptop computers, cell phones and iPods. Pilfered packages involved both private-party purchases as well as those meant for retail stores, police said.

Police said Lozano was arrested in the 200 block of Travis Boulevard after surveillance.

A search warrant was served at a residence in the 4900 block of Ridgefield Circle in Fairfield after Lozano's arrest. About $8,000 worth of stolen merchandise, including computers and video game systems, was recovered from the residence, police said.

Lozano is now on leave from his job pending termination.

The arrest came after an investigation by Faifield police and UPS security agents.
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not surprised at all

my mailman is realllllllly fishy (for various reasons)

and my friends a mailman says ppl steal and even take days off all the time (they keep the mail and just go home and deliver it the next day etc)
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im glad my canada post mailman is cool lol(talked to him a couple of times)
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I know my mailman the mofucka is crazy, walks in the snow with his shorts on.
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still can't beat ups brokerage fees... that's pure legal theft
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Old 12-25-2009, 08:03 AM   #8
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I've had shit go missing with UPS. Small items that aren't worth investigating.


BTW, the guy is not 16 years old as the thread title suggests.

16 year veteran, UPS driver.............

Just being picky on this special day. Perhaps he was a 16 year old who served in the war........... OK, I'll just shutup.




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i was wondering how a 16 y/o could be a veteran UPS driver haha
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damn.. that's messed up and clever at the same time O_O
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how much do ups drivers make on avg? 30-38k?
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when the bakery ppl said "YEAAAAAAAA"

im pretty sure they asked them: "does this man look like a child molester?"
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misleading title bro...
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i was wondering how a 16 y/o could be a veteran UPS driver haha
He must have started when he was about 10 years old.
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how much do ups drivers make on avg? 30-38k?
I think around the 40k mark, not really sure.

I have an idea of how he did it too.
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i hate my mail women , some days ill have zero mail which is pretty suspicious then all of a sudden i got the whole box full , lazy bitch
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I think 35-40K avg (pending on shifts and what not) is their starting or close to starting?
I know they can make more.

Gf's friend is a UPS driver and he makes well over that.
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Old 12-25-2009, 03:48 PM   #18
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The UPS driver in my area is an old highschool friend and every time he comes by to drop anything off he's bitching about the hours and his boss. He said if you work over a year or something you can join the union and your pay goes up to just under $30/hr but the year or whatever you work before joining the union is a bitch.

And the mailman in my area is awesome. The guy must be 50 years old, not sure what country he's from because he was a heavy accent but he's super friendly and always has a smile on his face.
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My buddy works for ups. Just makes under $30 an hour
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I think around the 40k mark, not really sure.

I have an idea of how he did it too.
they explained how he did it in the video...
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i hate my mail women , some days ill have zero mail which is pretty suspicious then all of a sudden i got the whole box full , lazy bitch
you hate your carrier bc somedays you dont have mail and other days you box is full? what sort of fucked up reason is that? guess what genius she has no control over how much mail is processed for her route. If the ppl working at the processing plant have a slow day, that will be reflected in the amount of mail the carrier has for her route and possibly for your house. Just bc the volume of mail fluctuates doesnt mean she is a lazy bitch and "suspicious"


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not surprised at all

my mailman is realllllllly fishy (for various reasons)

and my friends a mailman says ppl steal and even take days off all the time (they keep the mail and just go home and deliver it the next day etc)

that was pretty common in the older days where the carriers could get away with shit like that. Now adays you try and pull that stunt and you will get canned. Mgmt is ruthless. Although the "security" process is still quite a joke. No arguement with you there.
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they explained how he did it in the video...
Yes, but it doesn't make sense.

If you actually "deliver" a package, the recipient cannot claim insurance on it since it was "delivered" by the courier. They stated that he would make the deliveries and the recipient would be in on it.

When you order a package and it is shipped by one of the larger courier companies, you get tracking information. This is monitored thoroughly by you the recipient and the company. For example: you order tires through tire rack.
You get the tracking number information and it states when it was picked up at the warehouse. Then it should state that it is at the sorting facility, then onto the next truck/train etc. When it arrives at the destination warehouse, lets say Richmond, it should have a scan stating that. When the news reporter states that the theif would steal it before it goes on his truck, this is where he thought he would be smart. He probably did not scan it into his van because when you track your package, it should say "scanned into delivery vehicle" before the delivery scan.
It is very easy for the company to pinpoint as to whom the theif would be because these packages would just arrive at the sorting warehouse then all of a sudden have a delivery scan. Know what I mean?
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Yes, but it doesn't make sense.

If you actually "deliver" a package, the recipient cannot claim insurance on it since it was "delivered" by the courier. They stated that he would make the deliveries and the recipient would be in on it.

When you order a package and it is shipped by one of the larger courier companies, you get tracking information. This is monitored thoroughly by you the recipient and the company. For example: you order tires through tire rack.
You get the tracking number information and it states when it was picked up at the warehouse. Then it should state that it is at the sorting facility, then onto the next truck/train etc. When it arrives at the destination warehouse, lets say Richmond, it should have a scan stating that. When the news reporter states that the theif would steal it before it goes on his truck, this is where he thought he would be smart. He probably did not scan it into his van because when you track your package, it should say "scanned into delivery vehicle" before the delivery scan.
It is very easy for the company to pinpoint as to whom the theif would be because these packages would just arrive at the sorting warehouse then all of a sudden have a delivery scan. Know what I mean?


some of what was said in that news clip didnt make sense. In regards to canada post, when the parcels arrive in richmond are keyed out for delivery (it doesnt matter if its on the island or mainland or wherever) you will see the large canada post express post bar code (or priority courier etc) as well as a little sticker on the side of the box that will indicate the same number as the tracking number along with a smaller barcode and a route number (ex. 445)

That parcel is keyed to that specific route (445) and belongs to the letter carrier/parcel driver until it is delivered. If the driver doesnt scan it out in the morning before delivery, there will be a loss of contact between the parcel arriving at a particular depot for delivery and its final desination, so it could easily go missing there as it will show in the tracking details that its sitting at a particular postal depot awaiting delivery.


the other place it could easily go missing is if the parcel does not require a signature. If it does require a signature, then we have to go up to your door, knock, wait for you to open and get a sig before releasing the package. If it does not require a sig, then we can do whats called a "safe drop" and we can leave it at your front step, or in your car port, in the bbq or mailbox or whatever.

If someone sees us dropping a package off as a safe drop, they can easily just walk over to it, grab it and be on their merry way. Its not rocket science.

but generally most carriers esp around xmas time wont do safe drops no matter how safe the neighbourhood is. only takes one person to fuck it up.

so if i can give you guys a word of advice. when ur ordering a package and its being delivered through canada post, fedex, ups whatever, mark on the shipping option "do not safe drop" and if you can make it a signature required delivery. More of a pain in the ass for us, but it ensures you get your stuffs.
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