REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Automotive Chat > Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events

Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events The off-topic forum for Vancouver, funnies, non-auto centered discussions, WORK SAFE. While the rules are more relaxed here, there are still rules. Please refer to sticky thread in this forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-03-2010, 05:21 PM   #1
y'all better put some respeck on my name
 
Harvey Specter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 18,225
Thanked 9,244 Times in 2,359 Posts
Nut Job Biblical scholar now says date for rapture (end of the world) in May 21, 2011

When will these people stop? I guess never because most of these nut jobs are making money from people who buy into this crap.


Quote:


Harold Camping lets out a hearty chuckle when he considers the people who believe the world will end in 2012.

"That date has not one stitch of biblical authority," Camping says from the Oakland office where he runs Family Radio, an evangelical station that reaches listeners around the world. "It's like a fairy tale."

The real date for the end of times, he says, is in 2011.

The Mayans and the recent Hollywood movie "2012" have put the apocalypse in the popular mind this year, but Camping has been at this business for a long time. And while Armageddon is pop science or big-screen entertainment to many, Camping has followers from the Bay Area to China.

Camping, 88, has scrutinized the Bible for almost 70 years and says he has developed a mathematical system to interpret prophecies hidden within the Good Book. One night a few years ago, Camping, a civil engineer by trade, crunched the numbers and was stunned at what he'd found: The world will end May 21, 2011.

This is not the first time Camping has made a bold prediction about Judgment Day.

On Sept. 6, 1994, dozens of Camping's believers gathered inside Alameda's Veterans Memorial Building to await the return of Christ, an event Camping had promised for two years. Followers dressed children in their Sunday best and held Bibles open-faced toward heaven.

But the world did not end. Camping allowed that he may have made a mathematical error. He spent the next decade running new calculations, as well as overseeing a media company that has grown significantly in size and reach.

"We are now translated into 48 languages and have been transmitting into China on an AM station without getting jammed once," Camping said. "How can that happen without God's mercy?"

His office is flanked by satellite dishes in the parking lot that transmit his talk show, "Open Forum." In the Bay Area, he's heard on 610 AM, KEAR. Camping says his company owns about 55 stations in the United States alone, and that his message arrives on every continent.

'I'm looking forward to it'
Employees at the Oakland office run printing presses that publish Camping's pamphlets and books, and some wear T-shirts that read, "May 21, 2011." They're happy to talk about the day they believe their souls will be retrieved by Christ.

"I'm looking forward to it," said Ted Solomon, 60, who started listening to Camping in 1997. He's worked at Family Radio since 2004, making sure international translators properly dictate Camping's sermons.

"This world may have had an attraction to me at one time," Solomon said. "But now it's definitely lost its appeal."

Camping is a frail-looking man, and his voice is low and deep, but it can rise to dramatic peaks with a preacher's flair.

As a young man, he owned an East Bay construction business but longed to work as a servant of God. So he hit the books.

"Because I was an engineer, I was very interested in the numbers," he said. "I'd wonder, 'Why did God put this number in, or that number in?' It was not a question of unbelief, it was a question of, 'There must be a reason for it.' "

Code-breaking phenomenon
Camping is not the only man to see truths in the Bible hidden in the numbers. In the late 1990s, a code-breaking phenomenon took off, led by "The Bible Code," written by former Washington Post journalist Michael Drosnin.

Drosnin developed a technique that revealed prophecies within the Bible's text. A handful of biblical scholars have supported Drosnin's theory, lending it an air of legitimacy, and just as many scholars have decried it as farce.

One of Drosnin's more well-known findings is that a meteor will strike Earth in 2012, the same year some people believe the Mayan calendar marks the end of times, and the same year the "2012" action movie surmised the Earth's crust will destabilize and kill most humans.

Meaning in numbers
By Camping's understanding, the Bible was dictated by God and every word and number carries a spiritual significance. He noticed that particular numbers appeared in the Bible at the same time particular themes are discussed.

The number 5, Camping concluded, equals "atonement." Ten is "completeness." Seventeen means "heaven." Camping patiently explained how he reached his conclusion for May 21, 2011.

"Christ hung on the cross April 1, 33 A.D.," he began. "Now go to April 1 of 2011 A.D., and that's 1,978 years."

Camping then multiplied 1,978 by 365.2422 days - the number of days in each solar year, not to be confused with a calendar year.

Next, Camping noted that April 1 to May 21 encompasses 51 days. Add 51 to the sum of previous multiplication total, and it equals 722,500.

Camping realized that (5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) = 722,500.

Or put into words: (Atonement x Completeness x Heaven), squared.

"Five times 10 times 17 is telling you a story," Camping said. "It's the story from the time Christ made payment for your sins until you're completely saved.

"I tell ya, I just about fell off my chair when I realized that," Camping said.

James Kreuger, author of "Secrets of the Apocalypse - Revealed," has been studying the end of times for 40 years and is familiar with Camping's work. While Kreuger agrees that the rapture is indeed coming, he disputes Camping's method.

"For all his learning, Camping makes a classic beginner's mistake when he sets a date for Christ's return," Kreuger wrote in an e-mail. "Jesus himself said in Matthew 24:36, 'Of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my father only.' "

'It is going to happen'
Camping's believers will have none of it.

Rick LaCasse, who attended the September 1994 service in Alameda, said that 15 years later, his faith in Camping has only strengthened.

"Evidently, he was wrong," LaCasse allowed, "but this time it is going to happen. There was some doubt last time, but we didn't have any proofs. This time we do."

Would his opinion of Camping change if May 21, 2011, ended without incident?

"I can't even think like that," LaCasse said. "Everything is too positive right now. There's too little time to think like that


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz0bbdzJFOp
Advertisement
Harvey Specter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2010, 05:23 PM   #2
resident Oil Guru
 
LiquidTurbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 7,716
Thanked 10,457 Times in 1,794 Posts
Let the crazies be crazy. It's all good.
LiquidTurbo is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-03-2010, 05:31 PM   #3
RS controls my life!
 
gnat.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Richmond
Posts: 739
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
NOOOOooooOOOooooOOOOoooo that's 4 days before i turn 21....WTF!

lolol!
if the world ends, then it ends....nothing we can do. probably better if we didn't know about it, that way we won't have to worry or try to "live life to the fullest"! haha
gnat. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2010, 05:44 PM   #4
Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
 
JSALES's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 12,074
Thanked 3,186 Times in 929 Posts
if this guy thinks he's right, he should put his life on the line and if that day comes and nothing happens, kill that bastard. enough with this bullshit already haha
JSALES is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-03-2010, 05:57 PM   #5
Official Texas Ambassador
 
El Bastardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 10,333
Thanked 5,671 Times in 1,324 Posts
Who was that televangelist who was certain the world would end in 1983?
El Bastardo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2010, 07:05 PM   #6
Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
 
SolidPenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Richmond
Posts: 821
Thanked 796 Times in 185 Posts
Quote:
"Jesus himself said in Matthew 24:36, 'Of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my father only.' "
This disproves his theory right there.
SolidPenguin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2010, 07:34 PM   #7
MG1
Fathered more RS members than anybody else. Who's your daddy?
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 24,753
Thanked 11,514 Times in 4,905 Posts
When are Christians going to figure out that the whole world does not revolve around their religion? I have no problem with them believing in their religion. Leave the rest of us alone.

Quote:
"That date has not one stitch of biblical authority," Camping says from the Oakland office where he runs Family Radio, an evangelical station that reaches listeners around the world. "It's like a fairy tale."
And their religion isn't?

Everyone knows jesus was a used camel salesman. j/k
__________________
Quote:
"there but for the grace of god go I"
Quote:
Youth is, indeed, wasted on the young.
YODO = You Only Die Once.

Dirty look from MG1 can melt steel beams.

"There must be dissonance before resolution - MG1" a musical reference.
MG1 is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-03-2010, 07:39 PM   #8
RS Operative (G)
 
hal0g0dv2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: GYM
Posts: 12,640
Thanked 4,566 Times in 1,529 Posts
w0w wtf
__________________
╔╦╦╦═╦╗╔═╦═╦══╦═╗
║║║║╩╣╚╣═╣║║║║║╩╣
╚══╩═╩═╩═╩═╩╩╩╩═╝
hal0g0dv2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2010, 07:52 PM   #9
My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 5,944
Thanked 13,521 Times in 1,745 Posts
that guy needs to lay down the fucking crack mang.

The world is going to end May 20th, 2013.

According to Al Gore

__________________
PHOTOGRAPHY / FLICKR
1exotic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2010, 07:57 PM   #10
Banned (ABWS)
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: BC
Posts: 741
Thanked 54 Times in 41 Posts
something to look forward to i guess
what would cause the world to end at that time anyways
fishing666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2010, 09:30 PM   #11
14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 631
Thanked 41 Times in 34 Posts
That guy looks old. Imagine all that work going to waste when the world does not end that day.
Gilgamesh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2010, 09:37 PM   #12
y'all better put some respeck on my name
 
Harvey Specter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 18,225
Thanked 9,244 Times in 2,359 Posts
Harvey Specter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 12:00 AM   #13
I'm like the Fred Astaire of Revscene
 
josh t-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Okanagan
Posts: 607
Thanked 922 Times in 111 Posts
what a way to celebrate the queen of englands birthday... "alright who invited the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse...?"
josh t-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 12:09 AM   #14
Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 818
Thanked 709 Times in 216 Posts
2011 looks about right for this old mans' death date.
v.Rossi is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-04-2010, 03:36 AM   #15
Revscene.net has a homepage?!
 
moomooCow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: vancouver
Posts: 1,229
Thanked 156 Times in 53 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by coupeziRL View Post
2011 looks about right for this old mans' death date.
lol I hope he doesn't die before this day and I'd really like to see what he says when the world doesn't end...
moomooCow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 05:59 AM   #16
is best wrench
 
monkeywrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,485
Thanked 1,208 Times in 272 Posts
too many damn speculations... didn't someone post a NASA thing a while back on VOT?
monkeywrench is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 07:27 AM   #17
i like gifs
 
Ch28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: imgur
Posts: 27,179
Thanked 7,785 Times in 2,695 Posts
Seriously...who cares when the world ends. We're all going to die anyways so it's not like any of us are going to be missing out. Might as well plan a party around it and go out in style.
Ch28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 08:21 AM   #18
Willing to sell a family member for a few minutes on RS
 
hotjoint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Surrey
Posts: 12,758
Thanked 688 Times in 375 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch28 View Post
Seriously...who cares when the world ends. We're all going to die anyways so it's not like any of us are going to be missing out. Might as well plan a party around it and go out in style.
hotjoint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 08:29 AM   #19
MG1
Fathered more RS members than anybody else. Who's your daddy?
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 24,753
Thanked 11,514 Times in 4,905 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch28 View Post
Seriously...who cares when the world ends. We're all going to die anyways so it's not like any of us are going to be missing out. Might as well plan a party around it and go out in style.
Well a lot of RS members are still virgins. Nothing worse than dying a virgin.

So go get laid before the world ends.
__________________
Quote:
"there but for the grace of god go I"
Quote:
Youth is, indeed, wasted on the young.
YODO = You Only Die Once.

Dirty look from MG1 can melt steel beams.

"There must be dissonance before resolution - MG1" a musical reference.
MG1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 08:43 AM   #20
HELP ME PLS!!!
 
Greenstoner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 5,647
Thanked 1,816 Times in 450 Posts
im gonna write a book about the world end at 2221 and make some money...because no one is gonna see if my prediction comes true
Greenstoner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 09:00 AM   #21
I'm better than you.
 
b0unce. [?]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: East Van
Posts: 8,480
Thanked 3,087 Times in 658 Posts
The number 5, Camping concluded, equals "atonement." Ten is "completeness." Seventeen means "heaven." Camping patiently explained how he reached his conclusion for May 21, 2011.

(5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) = 722,500.


Sounds like he randomly made 5, 10, and 17 have a meaning lol
__________________


'14 Toyota Yaris [Work Daily]
'89 Toyota Cressida MX83 [Collector's status]
'15 Honda Ruckus [Summer cruiser]
'96 Toyota Hilux Surf KZN185 [Weekend Warrior]



Buy & Sell Ratings!
b0unce. [?] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 09:01 AM   #22
i like gifs
 
Ch28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: imgur
Posts: 27,179
Thanked 7,785 Times in 2,695 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by hotjoint View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 89blkcivic View Post
Well a lot of RS members are still virgins. Nothing worse than dying a virgin.

So go get laid before the world ends.
It's true though.

No point of being scared if it does happen. Something like Armageddon (the movie) could happen and I'd be out there celebrating and partying haha. We're fucked either way so why bother being stuck indoors and scared? I'd just party and have fun and go out in style!
Ch28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 11:00 AM   #23
RS controls my life!
 
ToyotaPowah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: B.C., Canada
Posts: 759
Thanked 83 Times in 26 Posts
I let out a hearty chuckle when I consider people who believe the world will end in XXXX.
__________________
07 TW Civic Si - Injen CAI, DCRH, Megan Racing catback, TWM SS, Cobb AccessPORT
ToyotaPowah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 12:17 PM   #24
hoppity HOP HOP
 
Spectre_Cdn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Richmond
Posts: 1,954
Thanked 1,617 Times in 522 Posts
Spectre_Cdn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 03:05 PM   #25
My homepage has been set to RS
 
falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Deutschland
Posts: 2,402
Thanked 900 Times in 387 Posts
I'm a Christian and even think this guy is kind of a nutjob.

Don't associate these kind of people with "all of Christianity"... and assume were all the same.

kthanx
falcon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net