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If the cops pull you over is it true they cannot search your vehicle without your...
I had this discussion today over breakfast , my bf seems to think that the cops cannot search or look inside your car when you get pulled over. He thinks , if the cops ask you to step out of your vehicle, you can lock the car and say no to them looking in it.
If the officer has "reasonable grounds" for a search, he can do it without a warrant being issued. Otherwise, he cannot search you vehicle and try to "fish" for anything illegal. Your BF can lock his door all he wants but if the cop has reasonable grounds for a search, it is going to happen with or without his consent.
If the officer has "reasonable grounds" for a search, he can do it without a warrant being issued. Otherwise, he cannot search you vehicle and try to "fish" for anything illegal. Your BF can lock his door all he wants but if the cop has reasonable grounds for a search, it is going to happen with or without his consent.
Exactly, which means that they basically can because they can make up some bullshit excuse as to their reasonable grounds, eg. locking the door when you get out!
If you have nothing to hide, who cares anyways, and if you do, well, you're a dumbass
Exactly, which means that they basically can because they can make up some bullshit excuse as to their reasonable grounds, eg. locking the door when you get out!
If you have nothing to hide, who cares anyways, and if you do, well, you're a dumbass
Yup. Might be faster and less confrontational to just let the officer have their way with searching. You can first say "I do not consent" and if the officer make up some excuse the let him/her have their way then file a complaint afterwards..... assuming you have nothing illegal inside
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While driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and instinctively swerved to avoid it...thanks Mario Kart.
would be considered a reasonable ground? Aside from seeing a pack of cocaine in your pass seat lol.... but lets say there is nothing visible, random pull over for broken tail light, or slight speed does that give him the authority to search ur call
As a driver, you do have some rights to avoid these "fishing" expeditions. So for example, if you are pulled over for a burnt out tail light or for speeding, you do have the right to say no to them searching the car.
But if they smell marijuana or see opened cans of beer, then I believe that opens the door to them searching your car.
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and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
this was a few days ago.... appeartly if the cops ask you to get out of the car, and you take your jacket off and run away. they aren't allowed to search the jacket... another scum bag back on the street. our judges need to get kicked in the balls a few times.
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A Vancouver man found guilty of carrying two loaded handguns has been acquitted after the B.C. Court of Appeal found that police had violated his rights.
In 2005, Christopher Jai Reddy was arrested and charged after police responded to a call that two suspicious men were sitting in a vehicle in the 2900-block Windsor Street and might be selling drugs.
Police ran a check on Reddy, then asked him to get out of the vehicle. He agreed, but removed his jacket first. He then fled.
Police found a Beretta .380 pistol in one pocket of the jacket and a Colt .45 pistol in the other. Both guns were loaded.
Reddy was arrested and at trial sought to have the evidence excluded.
But in a 2-1 ruling released Friday, the Court of Appeal found that Reddy was unlawfully detained and that there had been an unreasonable search. B.C. Court of Appeal Justice David Frankel ordered that Ready be acquitted and his decision was concurred by Justice Daphne Smith.
Justice John Hall dissented, citing the rise in gun crime, found that the evidence should not have been ruled inadmissible and dismissed the appeal.
usually if i cop is tryin to get me to let him search my car I pull out my phone and start recording whats going on asking him why I'm being stopped, say that i dont consent to any search and ask for what reason he has to believe I am hiding something and then I sit there and stay quiet. I do believe that they can only detain you for so long before it become unlawful.
tho usually (in delta at least) the cops will try and pressure you into allowing the search and try and scary you into it by calling for backup or threatening you with strip searchs and K9 units
this was a few days ago.... appeartly if the cops ask you to get out of the car, and you take your jacket off and run away. they aren't allowed to search the jacket... another scum bag back on the street. our judges need to get kicked in the balls a few times.
Keep in mind, these descisions were based solely on the judge's opinion, but since it was ruled that way, it opens a huge can of worms.
In the case of the running away, most people will see that running away is a sign of suspicious activity. Normally people will not run away, in which case *should* be enough grounds to allow the search of the suspects vehicle.
But then again, for whatever reason in that case, the judge decided otherwise.
As for the second case, you are correct, but so am I. Just because one court deemed the search illegal, it doesn't mean some officer will not try the same thing. All the officer has to say is the suspect acted suspiciously and that will be enough grounds for them to search the car.
The search may be deemed illegal, but that is up to a judge to decide.
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and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
usually if i cop is tryin to get me to let him search my car I pull out my phone and start recording whats going on asking him why I'm being stopped, say that i dont consent to any search and ask for what reason he has to believe I am hiding something and then I sit there and stay quiet. I do believe that they can only detain you for so long before it become unlawful.
tho usually (in delta at least) the cops will try and pressure you into allowing the search and try and scary you into it by calling for backup or threatening you with strip searchs and K9 units
i'm curious, what kind of reaction does this invoke? seems like something they would not appreciate at all. i've thought about this on occasion, but never heard of anyone actually going through with it.
i'm curious, what kind of reaction does this invoke? seems like something they would not appreciate at all. i've thought about this on occasion, but never heard of anyone actually going through with it.
I have only done this 3 times
twice in delta and once in vancouver
the one time in vancouver the cop was pissed said this shit wasnt worth his time toss my wallet back at me and wrote me up a ticket which I disputed
both times in delat the cops tried to pressue me into talking trash and one of them tried to grab my phone. Both times they called in back up (like 4 cars) but in the end I got let go cause really they had nothing on me other than "ppl in the area were saying there were kids causing trouble" so if there is a lesson to learn from my past exp is if you plan to pull this dont have your window all the way down as you legally only need to be able to talk with them and pass them ur info, just having your window crack is more than enough to achive all this plus it stops them from leaning into your car.
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My girlfriend's next period should be any day now, maybe I can drug her into letting me near her vagina. Apparently Nyquil fucks her up really good.
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I'm capable of many many many things. You may see me as a some guy on the internet but you don't know the half of it. I don't talk tough just for sh*ts & giggles but I do do tough things, bet my life on that!!
I believe that you have the right to record what is going on - and such recording can be used in court should anything go. That being said, should the officer try to take your phone and delete the recording, that should fit right in, in the destruction of evidence.
I believe that you have the right to record what is going on - and such recording can be used in court should anything go. That being said, should the officer try to take your phone and delete the recording, that should fit right in, in the destruction of evidence.
yea but trying to prove that is hard
cops word against your
which is why the whole leaving your window down only a crack works wonders
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My girlfriend's next period should be any day now, maybe I can drug her into letting me near her vagina. Apparently Nyquil fucks her up really good.
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I'm capable of many many many things. You may see me as a some guy on the internet but you don't know the half of it. I don't talk tough just for sh*ts & giggles but I do do tough things, bet my life on that!!
hahaha like I said Ive only done it a couple times
you make it sound like there is no such thing as a cop on a power trip
some cops do judge you base on your age and how they see you
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My girlfriend's next period should be any day now, maybe I can drug her into letting me near her vagina. Apparently Nyquil fucks her up really good.
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I'm capable of many many many things. You may see me as a some guy on the internet but you don't know the half of it. I don't talk tough just for sh*ts & giggles but I do do tough things, bet my life on that!!
Exactly, which means that they basically can because they can make up some bullshit excuse as to their reasonable grounds, eg. locking the door when you get out!
If you have nothing to hide, who cares anyways, and if you do, well, you're a dumbass
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Have you ever met anyone that would admit to being less than a better than average driver ??
A gang of mexican midgets in my trunk that I'm saving for Lomac's bukkake party?
The video bit can come in handy, though. Had a dash camera set up from filming a video one day in a buddy's car and we had forgotten to turn it off after filming. Got pulled over for something that we had allegedly done on the road a few moments prior (can't remember what it was anymore), but we both knew that it wasn't true. When we asked the cop if we could show him the footage of the last two minutes of driving to verify his accusation, we was very hesitant, but agreed. Pulled it up on the laptop (camera was dumping footage directly into a laptop... no need for tapes!) and after showing the officer, he realized that he had made a mistake and let us go with nothing more than a few minutes of conversation regarding filming.
It also really depends on how polite you are to the officer. Pointing a video camera directly at them is going to get their backs up, no matter if they were intending to be the most polite person in the world or not.