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Old 01-22-2010, 10:22 AM   #26
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A gang of mexican midgets in my trunk that I'm saving for Lomac's bukkake party?
Seen the :"trunk monkey" commercials ?

Back in the days of drive in movie theatres everybody packed the trunk with their buddies so they could sneak in for free. Ask your parents about this.
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In YOUR case it's tree rings...in MY case it's carbon dating. Gotta love dem dead dinosaurs.

BTW, riding in the trunk wasn't fun if your buddies wouldn't open the lid & let you out, once you got inside the drive in.

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this is very interesting, so basically if your car was clean does he have the right to shine his flash light through your car and look inside? What if he says open the door, or whats the on the floor or sir please step out the vehicle... do I have the right to say why do I have to step out the vehicle? Or I can step out of the vehicle and lock the car and say sorry sir I do not consent to a search, you will have to talk to my lawyer?
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This could get ugly fast. If an officer see's something in plain view that will provide him reasonable grounds to search a vehicle, he may ask you to step out without telling you. If you were to continually resist here it could cause trouble. Even if it turned out to be nothing...
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this is very interesting, so basically if your car was clean does he have the right to shine his flash light through your car and look inside? What if he says open the door, or whats the on the floor or sir please step out the vehicle... do I have the right to say why do I have to step out the vehicle? Or I can step out of the vehicle and lock the car and say sorry sir I do not consent to a search, you will have to talk to my lawyer?
Flashing the light and if he/she sees something, that is pretty much reasonable grounds for a search.
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Seen the :"trunk monkey" commercials ?

Back in the days of drive in movie theatres everybody packed the trunk with their buddies so they could sneak in for free. Ask your parents about this.
hahaha i remember that.

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this was a few days ago.... appeartly if the cops ask you to get out of the car, and you take your jacket off and run away. they aren't allowed to search the jacket... another scum bag back on the street. our judges need to get kicked in the balls a few times.
A Vancouver man found guilty of carrying two loaded handguns has been acquitted after the B.C. Court of Appeal found that police had violated his rights.

In 2005, Christopher Jai Reddy was arrested and charged after police responded to a call that two suspicious men were sitting in a vehicle in the 2900-block Windsor Street and might be selling drugs.

Police ran a check on Reddy, then asked him to get out of the vehicle. He agreed, but removed his jacket first. He then fled.

Police found a Beretta .380 pistol in one pocket of the jacket and a Colt .45 pistol in the other. Both guns were loaded.

Reddy was arrested and at trial sought to have the evidence excluded.

But in a 2-1 ruling released Friday, the Court of Appeal found that Reddy was unlawfully detained and that there had been an unreasonable search. B.C. Court of Appeal Justice David Frankel ordered that Ready be acquitted and his decision was concurred by Justice Daphne Smith.

Justice John Hall dissented, citing the rise in gun crime, found that the evidence should not have been ruled inadmissible and dismissed the appeal.


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could a cop search you in a school?
like if theres a liason officer,
and outta nowhere they ask to check your bag and pockets
could you just say no to that?
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could a cop search you in a school?
like if theres a liason officer,
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could you just say no to that?
Much like searching a vehicle, without consent, it's a no go. Suggestion though, don't bring anything questionable to school.
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could a cop search you in a school?
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Much like searching a vehicle, without consent, it's a no go. Suggestion though, don't bring anything questionable to school.
If there is reasonable grounds to search, then yes.
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could a cop search you in a school?
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If there is reasonable grounds to search, then yes.
I am going to have to disagree with the others considering the school itself is government owned they are allowed to check lockers and anything inside of them without consent. I am not sure if this extends to your person but I would think it does.
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I don't know anything about the laws but . . .

I've gotten pulled over for speeding, I had a 10 sack in my car and I didn't have my BCDL on me. So I rolled up my window locked my door and got out of the car with keys, the cop handcuffed me and while doing so removed the keys from my hand. After failing to produce he opened my car.

As he went to unlock my car, I told him "you do not have my consent to open or search my car" he said, "that's nice".

After searching through all my shit he came back with a 10 sac and asked me what it was doing there. I told him I just bought it and was headed home, I wouldn't tell him who I picked up from obviously. The he threatened to kick my teeth out in an alley which didn't really bother me much, because my parents would sue his ass for police brutality and I could use the settlement.

So he called in the k-9s. I think he thought I was selling rocks, because he inspected every pebble on the floor of my ride while we waited for the k-9 unit, after going through my entire ride, finding nothing, pointing the dog at me and giving me a smell and finding nothing. He crunched my weed under his boot, told me that they didn't find anything else handed me a ticket for failing to produce and told me to have a good night.

I wasn't that upset about losing my weed or getting a ticket for something I did ( he even let me go on the speeding which I was originally pulled for). What pisses me off is that they profile me as a dope runner off a harmless 10 sack, put me through a bunch of bullshit hassle, and try to intimidate me, then when they find nothing all of the sudden they are nice again.

I would like to think that Vancouver employs a police force that behaves respectfully to people and maintains a professional relationship with people whether they believe them to be criminals or not, but that has not been my experience at all.

I have never looked in my rear-view and thought, "good a police presence will help maintain a safe and wholesome environment for me and those around me"

I constantly look in my rear view seeing a cop and think " oh god I hope I'm not breaking some stupid rule that will give this guy the right to pull me over, harass me, and waste my time"
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any cop would be suspiscious if they find narcotics...
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I don't know anything about the laws but . . .

I've gotten pulled over for speeding, I had a 10 sack in my car and I didn't have my BCDL on me. So I rolled up my window locked my door and got out of the car with keys, the cop handcuffed me and while doing so removed the keys from my hand. After failing to produce he opened my car.

As he went to unlock my car, I told him "you do not have my consent to open or search my car" he said, "that's nice".

After searching through all my shit he came back with a 10 sac and asked me what it was doing there. I told him I just bought it and was headed home, I wouldn't tell him who I picked up from obviously. The he threatened to kick my teeth out in an alley which didn't really bother me much, because my parents would sue his ass for police brutality and I could use the settlement.

So he called in the k-9s. I think he thought I was selling rocks, because he inspected every pebble on the floor of my ride while we waited for the k-9 unit, after going through my entire ride, finding nothing, pointing the dog at me and giving me a smell and finding nothing. He crunched my weed under his boot, told me that they didn't find anything else handed me a ticket for failing to produce and told me to have a good night.

I wasn't that upset about losing my weed or getting a ticket for something I did ( he even let me go on the speeding which I was originally pulled for). What pisses me off is that they profile me as a dope runner off a harmless 10 sack, put me through a bunch of bullshit hassle, and try to intimidate me, then when they find nothing all of the sudden they are nice again.

I would like to think that Vancouver employs a police force that behaves respectfully to people and maintains a professional relationship with people whether they believe them to be criminals or not, but that has not been my experience at all.

I have never looked in my rear-view and thought, "good a police presence will help maintain a safe and wholesome environment for me and those around me"

I constantly look in my rear view seeing a cop and think " oh god I hope I'm not breaking some stupid rule that will give this guy the right to pull me over, harass me, and waste my time"
You have to assume the worse in situations like this. I mean, if you caught someone doing something illegal, what is your first instinct? Think the best? The outcomes can turn out pretty bad if that is the case.
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I don't know anything about the laws but . . .

I've gotten pulled over for speeding, I had a 10 sack in my car and I didn't have my BCDL on me. So I rolled up my window locked my door and got out of the car with keys, the cop handcuffed me and while doing so removed the keys from my hand. After failing to produce he opened my car.

That would have to be where you went wrong.

It seems super suspicious for you to get out of your car.
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I would also hafto agree that when I see a cop on the street, instead of feeling safe,

I feel like I better not make eye contact with them, or else theil pull me over and hassle me and waste my time.
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I don't see how things like only opening the window a crack or exiting the vehicle would be good ideas when you're (presumably) about to try and get out of a ticket. I go with the window fully down, dome light on, hands on the wheel approach, and even when an officer gave me some kind of quick drug-screen at a roadblock I haven't had any issues.

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yea but trying to prove that is hard

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which is why the whole leaving your window down only a crack works wonders
don't use/touch your phone after, try to show the cops fingerprints on your phone in court (might need a lawyer or somn) could work.
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That idea worked really well for the "activist" who "took the video of VPD shooting the man"...you know where the Police "erased the video from his cell phone"...the same video that 2 of his experts could not find ever existed...and independant street cams showed the guy wasn't even in the area where it took place and never took any video? Any evidence in court has to show a "chain of evidence" to show it was controlled and not tampered with. Simply having fingerprints on a phone that may have been handled for some other reason, like when being searched upon arrest, does not equate to erased video. You would have to show that there was video there first, that the video was relevant to what happened, that it was recorded at the exact time and place of the event, that is was unedited in any way, that it was immediately preserved in that state and controlled untouched until it was entered into the court process. You would have to then list every person who had access to the video, on what occasion and where and for what reason. They would all be subject to being called into court for testimony and cross examination. There is a lot to this court thing and if you have real legal concerns you should be talking to a lawyer who can guide you on what to do.
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I remember that. I honestly wish the police charge that guy for obstruction or something. If the cops really did do that, then sure, it's good he stood up, but when he's making up BS to try to slander the police, then I think he should face some consequences.
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I believe Chief Chu said they were going to charge him. Hope so.
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I believe Chief Chu said they were going to charge him. Hope so.
What?

If he is going to get charged, what is taking so long? He clearly lied about the whole thing, it should be an open and shut case, no?

People like that guy need to be taught a lesson. Seriously, I'm all for bashing cops when they are wrong, so I'm all for bashing citizens when they are wrong.
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I believe it also in volves the Pivot Legal Society and BCCLU who made some slanderous remarks about the Police. I hope it goes ahead too. Having been on the receiving end of deliberately false complaints on several occasions, my outfit's response was that I should sue them in civil court..would not proceed with public mischief charges.
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