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twitchyzero 01-21-2010 10:35 AM
^ you get what you deserve? LOL wtf what about hereditary or congenital diseases?

Here are some of the ideal health care systems in the world:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...rld/countries/

Greenstoner 01-21-2010 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 6780918)
^ you get what you deserve? LOL wtf what about hereditary or congenital diseases?

Here are some of the ideal health care systems in the world:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...rld/countries/
sorry, to clarify ...

You will get what you deserve in treatments

bengy 01-21-2010 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FeistyBearH22a (Post 6780894)
4 years of post secondary education + 8 months intensive training. Im over qualified for the job you speak off. Don't worry I won't be coming for your job when I get axed.


Nice coming from a guy who wants MRI for headaches.
I didn't say I want MRI for headaches you stupid fuck. If you knew anything about US medical system, you'd know they give those fucking scans out like candy on Halloween. I spend 1-3 weeks every month in various US hospitals radiology departments, that's how I know, if you were wondering.

Now STFU and mop that floor bitch.

Gt-R R34 01-21-2010 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6780855)
I think the issue with Brock's commentary is multi-faceted:

1) He was in bumbfuck Manitoba, ended up in a shitty hospital that probably was no better than one in Mexico. He was in great pain, near death (his COLON was OPEN, and leaking FECAL MATTER into his body) and had to get the fuck out of there. So he was very emotional about that, and still very upset about it.

2) Obviously he's a devout right-winger, and mostly this was a rebuttal to the idea that universal health care is the way to go for America. Lefties will use Canada as an example of it being good, and Righties will use it as an example of the opposite. Both are right. Brock used this as an example of the fact that he might be living with a poop-bag attached to his ass for the rest of his life if private facilities didn't exist.

3) Brock is a constant performer. That is why he is such a big star. He knows what to say to get headlines. The fact that this is the hottest thread in the RS off topic forum tells you this. It's probably all over other non-MMA related forums as well. People who agree with him will love him, people will disagree will hate him. Either way, he makes money and becomes a bigger star for it, so all the power to him :thumbsup:

As MMA fans, we get Brock's thinking and his attitude.

But like Skinnypupp said, He was in bumfuck Manitoba, i'm pretty sure he wouldn't make the same complaint if he was in say Vancouver/T.O.

As for medic care in canada, i like what we have. But if I was as rich as brock, and had UFC covering cost. I would say the same damn things. Who needs any other hospitals when I could go to the Mayo Clinic.

sonick 01-21-2010 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6780924)
Now STFU and mop that floor bitch.
LOL :haha:

Greenstoner 01-21-2010 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 6780918)
^ you get what you deserve? LOL wtf what about hereditary or congenital diseases?

Here are some of the ideal health care systems in the world:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...rld/countries/
wow.. Taiwan is on there??? I was afriad to elaborate my thought about how good the Taiwan's health care is because people might be shitting on me.


especially when there is memeber who contribute in this thread is uaually against any comments protesting China/Taiwan goverments.

FeistyBearH22a 01-21-2010 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6780924)
I didn't say I want MRI for headaches you stupid fuck. If you knew anything about US medical system, you'd know they give those fucking scans out like candy on Halloween. I spend 1-3 weeks every month in various US hospitals radiology departments, that's how I know, if you were wondering.

Now STFU and mop that floor bitch.
Handing out MRI's like candy. Very cost effective. :thumbsup:

taylor192 01-21-2010 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FeistyBearH22a (Post 6780858)
You've got sisters as nurses good for them. I work in cardiac surgery ICU spare me the "inside information" on health care.

You were in pain and you didn't ask for analgesia? I guess we should ensure the call bells are retard proof. Ill pass it along.

Oh awesome time line btw. 6 hours before you saw a doctor? Highly suspect. I know when you're in pain time slows to a halt but come on. Man up. Grow some balls and ask for analgesia.
I'm not a doctor, how should I know to ask for analgesia?

I informed the nurses on duty several times of my pain and requested to see a doctor immediately. If they cannot recognize someone curled into a ball on the floor puking into a bucket - well that's highlights the problem with our healthcare system.

6 hrs. My roommate timed it.

taylor192 01-21-2010 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6780890)
Mopping the blood off the OR floor after surgery doesn't make you a know-it-all on healthcare issues douchebag.

It's OK. We understand you're upset people are attacking your place of employment, but no need to take it so damn personal.
LOL love it! :thumbsup:

bengy 01-21-2010 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FeistyBearH22a (Post 6780943)
Handing out MRI's like candy. Very cost effective. :thumbsup:
Insurance pays for it.

Way to fail, again. :thumbsup:

FeistyBearH22a 01-21-2010 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 6780945)
I'm not a doctor, how should I know to ask for analgesia?

I informed the nurses on duty several times of my pain and requested to see a doctor immediately. If they cannot recognize someone curled into a ball on the floor puking into a bucket - well that's highlights the problem with our healthcare system.

6 hrs. My roommate timed it.
You don't have to be a doctor to ask for pain medication. Again, quite elementary.

You now... when your hand is to close to fire you remove it... Makes sense right?

twitchyzero 01-21-2010 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Greenstoner (Post 6780936)
wow.. Taiwan is on there??? I was afriad to elaborate my thought about how good the Taiwan's health care is because people might be shitting on me.
they have a surprisingly remarkable financing system in place..unfortunately i don't feel their medical treatments are on-par with other first-world countries and the doctors get overworked.

dna82 01-21-2010 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6780950)
Insurance pays for it.

Way to fail, again. :thumbsup:
who pays for the insurance?

who gets denied insurance?

MG1 01-21-2010 10:52 AM
..............

double post

taylor192 01-21-2010 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 91civicZC (Post 6780872)
I am amazed at how many people seem to think the Canadian system sucks, and yet have no personal experience with any other system in the world. No, “My friends says” or “My brother had” doesn’t count. If YOU have experience, the YOU can have an opinion. Otherwise, its second hand and hearsay, and not worth very much.
I don't need to experience an earthquake in Haiti to believe it would suck.

There is nothing wrong with taking credible people's experience. The problem with "my friend" is people exaggerate to make a point.

I waited 6 hours in the ER without seeing a doctor, and 12 hours before having my appendix removed.

Our system sucks.

FeistyBearH22a 01-21-2010 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6780950)
Insurance pays for it.

Way to fail, again. :thumbsup:
HAHAHAHAHAHA

MG1 01-21-2010 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6780950)
Insurance pays for it.

Way to fail, again. :thumbsup:
Who pays for insurance?

Insurance rates keep going up. Why?

taylor192 01-21-2010 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FeistyBearH22a (Post 6780951)
You don't have to be a doctor to ask for pain medication. Again, quite elementary.

You now... when your hand is to close to fire you remove it... Makes sense right?
Informing the nurse of your pain and wanting to see a doctor about it should be sufficient enough.

Is healthcare becoming like the self-checkout at the grocery store? Do I have to do your job too even though I'm already paying you?

dna82 01-21-2010 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 6780962)
I don't need to experience an earthquake in Haiti to believe it would suck.

There is nothing wrong with taking credible people's experience. The problem with "my friend" is people exaggerate to make a point.

I waited 6 hours in the ER without seeing a doctor, and 12 hours before having my appendix removed.

Our system sucks.
i don't quite get what you are trying to say.
you waited in line for a surgical procedure. longer then you should have. but did you take into consideration that other people required more immediate attention?

mc. 01-21-2010 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6780950)
Insurance pays for it.

Way to fail, again. :thumbsup:
just because you can pay for it does NOT mean that it is cost effective, key word being effective.

Greenstoner 01-21-2010 11:02 AM
In Taiwan, you wont see a case like taylor192 suffering in the hospital.... everyone gets immediate attention when they're needed it. There is no wait for emergency and from what taylor192 described, it is considered as an emergency when a person is curled into a ball on the floor puking into a bucket.

Is it just me or hospital in Canada are lack of doctors ?? I've been to canada hospitcal once for a surgery, I hardly see anyone was working there while the seats were full of patients. It was like the scene straight from "Silent Hill" where the hospitcal is quite dead and full of ill patients

bengy 01-21-2010 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dna82 (Post 6780959)
who pays for the insurance?

who gets denied insurance?
If you go to ER without insurance you will get care just like any other person.

Obviously the current American system sucks ass for people who can't afford insurance, and a public option would be great.

The topic of this discussion is Canadian healthcare quality versus American. The American system wins in that category, efficient or not.

Meowjin 01-21-2010 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Greenstoner (Post 6780978)
In Taiwan, you wont see a case like taylor192 suffering in the hospital.... everyone gets immediate attention when they're needed it. There is no wait for emergency and from what taylor192 described, it is considered as an emergency when a person is curled into a ball on the floor puking into a bucket.

Is it just me or hospital in Canada are lack of doctors ?? I've been to canada hospitcal once for a surgery, but I hardly see anyone is working there while the seats are full of patients.
FYI Taiwan and singapore are "healthcare/medical tourism" hotspots where alot of people from asia go to get healthcare done.

taylor192 01-21-2010 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dna82 (Post 6780970)
i don't quite get what you are trying to say.
you waited in line for a surgical procedure. longer then you should have. but did you take into consideration that other people required more immediate attention?
Read one of my previous posts.

I waited behind people with the flu and sprained ankles, while I was curled in a ball on the floor puking.

Its how our "fair" system works. I wasn't in immediate danger of dieing (although they wouldn't know since a doctor didn't see me) so I had to wait my turn.

If your argument our system is "fair", then so be it. Brock's argument is that "fair" system suck for those who can afford better care and I agree with him. I would have paid for faster care.

---

Hint: My sisters gave me great advice after than incident. Always call an ambulance, especially if you have a work health pan that covers it. If you're brought in by an ambulance, you skip the queue in the ER.

"fair" eh?

drunkrussian 01-21-2010 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 6780900)
How is it like in Russia?
lol it's actually quite good, u'd be surprised.


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