only if he doesn't cover in his For Sale Ad a proper terms & conditions

and if he doesn't document delivery to the person will paypal side with her

if he does she has no recourse

he's at greater risk with a money order.... as i've said above; money orders are how Nigerians run their scams and he'll have no recourse but be in debt to his bank

Put it another way.. the person on the other end is smarter than you cuz you don't know enough about stuff like this:

The only reason why she's going out of her way to buy your car at the asked price is that she just wants to suck your cock!

the customer can do a reversal or it could be a stolen paypal account or just a pure scam ie knows she will do a reversal later but keep your car. if she has $2600 in her paypal account but no bank account or other form of sending money, then that is fishy. if she didn't confirm her credit card or bank account with paypal, there is a monthly sending limit of $500.

doesn't matter about your 'terms and agreements' that you print out etc. paypal frankly doesn't care.

AND if you have a brand new paypal account (less than 6 months old) or deviate from your regular 'activities' ie all of a sudden receive $1000+, they will limit your account and it can take weeks if not longer to arrive...

so... cash in person only

SO there is many loopholes through paypal in which I can get screwed..which was my question. Thanks guys I appreciate it :)

rofl, your post is so vague. What car are you selling? And did you do it through craigslist? If so craigslist has big warnings at the top when selling anything that it should always be LOCAL.

yup, doesn't matter if you have proper "terms and agreemnts", tracking number, proof of delivery, credit card company will side with the buyer, and you'll be out.

-your car's not special
-who goes through the trouble of buying overseas, shipping, inspecting, registering an average, everyday car?
-Paypal accts. get hacked all the time
--I only use Escrow services for high dollar overseas transactions
-fake overseas money orders can take over a month to be discovered, even if you've already cashed them in, you'll be screwed
-guaranteed if you sold it to her, she would then get you to do a bunch of other shit
--ie. overpay, then get you to send money back, get you to deal with the shipper, etc. etc.

For a $2500 car I would only do cash up front, face to face.

scam, nuff said

It is a scam for sure. You actually think you'll get the money after you give your PayPal address? They aren't that stupid. If you give them your PayPal address, I guarantee that they will send a follow up email asking for a few more details before they can 'transfer the payment'.

Im selling an 01 focus ZTS interesed? haha. Yes it was Craigslist and I am aware of all the warnings, the only thing I was unsure of is Paypals security which was the point of the post, I was just checking to see how I could get screwed over, as perosnally with no expereince using paypal I had no idea. Specificness I did not tihnk was required to get the information I wanted.

actually it was not an overseas transaction, she is from vancouver (apparently) but works for the navy and spends lots of time ON the seas, while running a personal business buying and reselling cars...kind of even more bull shittier lol no shipping involved either she had a "Pick-up" agent haha

Its a scam... i get these types of emails from ebay too although they can use the buy it now button...

Please post the original email she sent you.

(original e-mail)

kristen Miller
to me

show details Jan 21 (1 day ago)

Hi thanks for mailing back,
i am an oceanist and i am buying this for my Dad, i am at sea right now,
and I will be paying you $2,600.I can only pay through paypal at
the moment as i don't have access to my bank account online,but i have
it attached to my paypal account, and this is why i insisted on using
paypal to pay,if my offer is accepted kindly send me your paypal email address
to make the payments,and if you don't have a paypal account yet,its pretty easy to set
one up at www.paypal.com ,i will be expecting your email.I have a
pick up agent that will come for the pick up after payments has been
sorted

kristen

PS:our phone system is currently scrambled, a problem with our
satellite provider, i may not be able to call for a while please bear
with me.



(after)
Hello,
I dont know when am going to be back from the sea...am sorry i cannot pay via cash or cashier cheque.like i said in my previous mail i only have funds in my paypal account and its verified and thats my secured means of paying here.i would prefer paypal.
get back to me soon.


Cheers.

(we chatted)
me: hey
KMiller: hello
12:33 PM me: Are you from a dealership?
12:34 PM KMiller: No...am not...
am a private buyer
me: Kmiller autos & co? buying for personal use or what?
KMiller: i work with the royal navy am at sea right now
12:35 PM that my personal business company
am buying it for my private sale here
me: oh so you are buying it for resale?
I think I see
12:36 PM KMiller: yeah
me: So when do you come back? Paypal is kind of a hassle with me as I don;t have a credit card
12:37 PM KMiller: aint sure when am coming back
well am sorry..but i only have funds in my paypal account
and thats the only means of payment i can use here for now
ok
12:38 PM me: Can I have your paypal e-mail?
just to verify
KMiller: ok
kristmiller6@gmail.com
12:40 PM me: thanks, I have to check through my parents paypal accounts to make sure everything is ok.
I will be in contact with you
:) thanks for your time
KMiller: ok
12:41 PM waiting to hear from you






Then I told her i need cash and she hasnt responded :P

It's not just paypal, there's gonna be other ways you won't know about and the scammers will.

Recognize the scam not the payment method or risk being called stupid!

Scam more??

You offered 2400 but she insisted giving u 2600... seriously? either shes is retarded are your getting scammed son.

There are two varieties of posters in this thread; idiots and pussies.


Sell the car. Take payment via paypal. Scan government ID of person picking up car. Tada you're done.

moron.

Don't forget Paypal can reverse the charges even if the payment had gone through eg credit card charge backs. If they used a stolen credit card, guess who's left holding the bag a few months later with a negative balance?

Seriously if you still think this is going to work just give up... my friend's friend just got scammed in the same scenario... Paypal always favours the buyers so if the buyer disputes you'll be going through lots of trouble