The Official Apple iPad Thread

[SuperSlowSS]

Originally Posted by threezero

yea but you can already do that with your laptop and your phone, or you could setup a pc in your washroom with keyboard mouse bigger screen for around the same price.


sounds like it would only be useful for business use BUT it will require completely reprogramming for it to be apply to individual situation, i doubt app store would come out with actually commercial business app. so much money and work need to make it fit into systems business have already mind as well get the hp slate and it already comes with an OS that is compatible with the company existing softwares.

speak for yourself. I don't want to hold no keyboard, mouse or laptop while taking a dump. iPhone is ok, but screen too small. ipad fills this perfectly. haha

man theres alot of use for this thing. I think most of you are looking it wrong. You see it as a replacement for laptop(netbook) or iphone. But it isn't. You can use this thing at places where the two doesn't really work as well.

Think of notepad, a book, piece of paper. Thats what it can replace and do much more. It is one of those things where once you start to use it, you will be wondering how you got by without it before. And at $500...thats cheap.

[.Renn.Sport]

Originally Posted by SuperSlowSS

speak for yourself. I don't want to hold no keyboard, mouse or laptop while taking a dump. iPhone is ok, but screen too small. ipad fills this perfectly. haha

man theres alot of use for this thing. I think most of you are looking it wrong. You see it as a replacement for laptop(netbook) or iphone. But it isn't. You can use this thing at places where the two doesn't really work as well.

Think of notepad, a book, piece of paper. Thats what it can replace and do much more. It is one of those things where once you start to use it, you will be wondering how you got by without it before. And at $500...thats cheap.

that is exactly it.
but right now the iphone OS is still too limited and inflexible

[Kim Jong Un]

Fuckin apple is smoking crack...
Dude I was like so pump to see the tablet until I went on their website, biggest fail of 2010
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[Senna4ever]

Niche product for sure. It does some things very well like e-books, although I personally hate using & reading e-books, video & light web-use. The HUGE no-no for me is the lack of Adobe Flash support. Most visual artists utilize Flash in their web-sites, and the lack of Flash is pretty much alienating a core market of Apple products. A vast majority of photographers have iPhones & Macs. As a photographer, I have almost no use for the iPad, except maybe as a nice, thin portable electronic portfolio - as long as there is a way to colour calibrate the screen. I'll keep my 17" Macbook Pro, thank you. Now, having said that, I think it's not right to outright pan the iPad without even having seen or used it. Consumers will most likely find creative ways to use the thing.

Dare I say...? Newton > iPad

[Hehe]

Apple will never support flash on their mobile products. They don't want stuff like Hulu get in their iTunes store's revenue.

[StylinRed]

Originally Posted by Iceman_2K

theres one group of people that may be very excited with an announcement like this: doctors and physicians.

everyone in my family thinks its retarded.. well except for 1 of them but he's just a dentist not a real doctor

1 of the main issues? multitasking, doctors actually run a number of things at a time when they're with a patient


and im pretty sure my dentist cousin doesnt realize how inhibited he'll be due to no flash since most of what he uses comps for is flash oriented

[threezero]

Originally Posted by Senna4ever

Niche product for sure. It does some things very well like e-books, although I personally hate using & reading e-books, video & light web-use. The HUGE no-no for me is the lack of Adobe Flash support. Most visual artists utilize Flash in their web-sites, and the lack of Flash is pretty much alienating a core market of Apple products. A vast majority of photographers have iPhones & Macs. As a photographer, I have almost no use for the iPad, except maybe as a nice, thin portable electronic portfolio - as long as there is a way to colour calibrate the screen. I'll keep my 17" Macbook Pro, thank you. Now, having said that, I think it's not right to outright pan the iPad without even having seen or used it. Consumers will most likely find creative ways to use the thing.

Dare I say...? Newton > iPad

i like that portable porfolio idea.

[K-Dub]

Originally Posted by Hehe

Apple will never support flash on their mobile products. They don't want stuff like Hulu get in their iTunes store's revenue.

just wait till HTML5 comes out.

[Ronin]

I was hoping for...basically a MacBook tablet. They fucking have them already...just that they're modified third party MacBooks. Why couldn't they make that instead of a giant iPhone?

I would've paid more if it was more MBP than iPhone. I don't use the majority of iPhone apps as it is...I would probably use them less if I had to carry around a 10" version.

That being said...$499...that's cheap enough to buy just for kicks.

[goo3]

Originally Posted by Senna4ever

Now, having said that, I think it's not right to outright pan the iPad without even having seen or used it.

Funny thing.. when i was deciding to go with a MacBook or a PC for my laptop, I heard a lot of ppl panning Apple. I realized after.. most of these ppl never even used a Mac. They were just repeating what others who've never used one were saying. Not exactly the most helpful ppl around.

So I got nothing to say about the tablet itself until it hits stores. Only that we shouldn't underestimate the power of the App store and iTunes for a 10" touch device. New possibilities for apps, games, podcasts, media, etc..

[raygunpk]

it will sell like wildfire because of the brand alone. i remember a lot of articles bashing the ipod when it first came out, and look how that turned out. same with the iphone.

i still dislike apple, but they market very effectively.

[ray666]

iPass

[Kim Jong Un]

at least make it run on modified leopard or something can you just imagine photoshop running on these things : P

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by raygunpk

it will sell like wildfire because of the brand alone. i remember a lot of articles bashing the ipod when it first came out, and look how that turned out. same with the iphone.

i still dislike apple, but they market very effectively.

They also pay a lot of attention to detail, to fit and finish, and to the interface, making it very friendly and very solid. I have yet to try an MP3 player where the controls are as smooth and reliable as the iPod clickwheel. I've abused iPod Nanos and Minis in unbelievable fashion and they not only still work, but they hardly show any scars.

I've had a couple of different Windows Mobile phones now, and as much as I love the hackability and expandability of them, none of them have managed to keep up with my friends' iPhones for how slick they operate. The iPhone interface, at least every time I've used it, is smooth and responsive and I've never had a "missed touch".

My Omnia's touch, on the other hand, is great when it works... but too often I try to do a "swipe" and it reads "tap"... or I want to to do a "tap" but I have to "tap and hold" before it will respond. It has a tap-and-drag to zoom feature on some apps, but that too, is iffy at times - when it works properly, it's great, but sometimes it lags or is non-responsive. Everytime I've used an iPhone, the zoom and scroll and swipe functions... just work.

And for my hands at least, the iPhone's screen size, and correspondingly the on-screen keyboard size, is just about the ideal meeting point of compactness and usability - I have yet to find a keyboard for my Omnia that doesn't give me "rollover" problems with my fat thumbs, while the iPhone's are just big enough without making the phone too big.

This is really Apple's forte - not as much being on the bleeding edge, but putting a nice smooth blade protector on it

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by nwen

at least make it run on modified leopard or something can you just imagine photoshop running on these things : P

You can always get a standard tablet PC and hack OSX to run on that

[jmvdesign]

Originally Posted by nwen

at least make it run on modified leopard or something can you just imagine photoshop running on these things : P

designers were looking forward to potentially use this for digital sketching with a stylus pen in photoshop or alias sketchbook pro as another alternative compared to the current wacom tablets. but the fact that it's running on iphone os with no multi-tasking abilities, that alone just made this device completely obsolete in the design industry, an already huge market for apple.

but knowing apple's strategy, its apparent that they'll opt out certain key features and but eventually release them on upcoming iterations.

[Iceman_2K]

You can get stylus' that work on the iphone already on ebay and other various sources......since it uses the same screen as the iphone, the same stylus would work on the ipad.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by nwen

at least make it run on modified leopard or something can you just imagine photoshop running on these things : P

Yeah I'd like to see someone try to run Photoshop on a 1 Ghz ARM processor

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by SuperSlowSS

man theres alot of use for this thing. I think most of you are looking it wrong. You see it as a replacement for laptop(netbook) or iphone. But it isn't. You can use this thing at places where the two doesn't really work as well.

Think of notepad, a book, piece of paper. Thats what it can replace and do much more. It is one of those things where once you start to use it, you will be wondering how you got by without it before. And at $500...thats cheap.

Please tell me how you're going to carry this around? Do you have a man-purse? I don't. I have a laptop bag... and well my laptop can just as easily go in my laptop bag.

The iPad is an expensive toy that will sit on coffee tables if you want to quickly surf the web for a bit. Typing will be painful, and holding the tablet tiresome. The keyboard requires you carry more equipment around, and the stand doesn't allow the angle to be adjusted for viewing while seated.

[Iceman_2K]

Take it from someone who works with the health care industry very intimately (US Health care that is) - they don't. They want everything to occur with one click, and the easier the better. They don't like complexity and don't care for the ability to do more than one thing at one time - especially when liability is on the line if a mistake is made. I've seen doctors ask for workstations that cost upwards to $30000 and all they do on it is put their coffee cup on the top of it and browse the Wall Street Journal. A machine, whether it be a laptop, desktop or whatever, is just a tool. The simpler and easier it is for them to pick up and use, the better.

Most of the remarks so far have been comparing it to the netbook and laptop replacements, or even desktop replacements. That's a pretty limited and short sighted view as to what this device can do and its potential applications.

Originally Posted by StylinRed

everyone in my family thinks its retarded.. well except for 1 of them but he's just a dentist not a real doctor

1 of the main issues? multitasking, doctors actually run a number of things at a time when they're with a patient


and im pretty sure my dentist cousin doesnt realize how inhibited he'll be due to no flash since most of what he uses comps for is flash oriented

[SuperSlowSS]

Originally Posted by taylor192

Please tell me how you're going to carry this around? Do you have a man-purse? I don't. I have a laptop bag... and well my laptop can just as easily go in my laptop bag.

The iPad is an expensive toy that will sit on coffee tables if you want to quickly surf the web for a bit. Typing will be painful, and holding the table tiresome. The keyboard requires you carry more equipment around, and the stand doesn't allow the angle to be adjusted for viewing while seated.

Think how do you carry a paper notebook or book around? You can use a bag, or just carry it with your hand. You do the same with the ipad. And this thing is so thin, I can just put it in my laptop bag with my laptop.

Like I said in my post. It isn't a replacement for your computer or iphone. The thing only has like 256mb of memory...why would you want it to multitask or run full osx? And apple isn't stupid, they wouldn't want this thing to cut into their macbook or iphone sales.

I am sure they could have made it even more powerful, with cameras, run full osx, multitask. But you know what will happen to the price? Yes goes up. Just look at the newton! It was soooo cool and expensive at the time. Where is it now? That was a niche product. Lets just say if I had to buy my grandparents a computer to surf the net and do some email...I would get the ipad.

You speak like you have already played with it.

[604778]

expensive
silly looking
stupid name
no camera
no flash
did i say expensive?
annoying to carry and use

Who needs this piece of crap?

[jmvdesign]

This thing could have had so much potential but it fails miserably no matter how much you sugarcoat it.

Gizmodo's 8 Things That Suck About the iPad

http://i.gizmodo.com/5458382/

"Big, Ugly Bezel
Have you seen the bezel on this thing?! It's huge! I know you don't want to accidentally input a command when your thumb is holding it, but come on.

No Multitasking
This is a backbreaker. If this is supposed to be a replacement for netbooks, how can it possibly not have multitasking? Are you saying I can't listen to Pandora while writing a document? I can't have my Twitter app open at the same time as my browser? I can't have AIM open at the same time as my email? Are you kidding me? This alone guarantees that I will not buy this product.

No Cameras
No front facing camera is one thing. But no back facing camera either? Why the hell not? I can't imagine what the downside was for including at least one camera. Could this thing not handle video iChat?

Touch Keyboard
So much for Apple revolutionizing tablet inputs; this is the same big, ugly touchscreen keyboard we've seen on other tablets, and unless you're lying on the couch with your knees propping it up, it'll be awkward to use.

No HDMI Out
Want to watch those nice HD videos you downloaded from iTunes on your TV? Too damned bad! If you were truly loyal, you'd just buy an AppleTV already.

The Name iPad
Get ready for Maxi pad jokes, and lots of 'em!

No Flash
No Flash is annoying but not a dealbreaker on the iPhone and iPod Touch. On something that's supposed to be closer to a netbook or laptop? It will leave huge, gaping holes in websites. I hope you don't care about streaming video! God knows not many casual internet users do. Oh wait, nevermind, they all do.

Adapters, Adapters, Adapters
So much for those smooth lines. If you want to plug anything into this, such as a digital camera, you need all sorts of ugly adapters. You need an adapter for USB for god's sake.

Update: Why stop at 8? Here are more things we are discovering that suck about the iPad.

It's Not Widescreen
Widescreen movies look lousy on this thing thanks to its 4:3 screen, according to Blam, who checked out some of Star Trek on one. It's like owning a 4:3 TV all over again!

Doesn't Support T-Mobile 3G
Sure, it's "unlocked." But it won't work on T-Mobile, and it uses microSIMs that literally no one else uses.

A Closed App Ecosystem
The iPad only runs apps from the App Store. The same App Store that is notorious for banning apps for no real reason, such as Google Voice. Sure, netbooks might not have touchscreens, but you can install whatever software you'd like on them. Want to run a different browser on your iPad? Too bad!"

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by taylor192

The iPad is an expensive toy that will sit on coffee tables if you want to quickly surf the web for a bit. Typing will be painful, and holding the table tiresome.

[Great68]

Originally Posted by SuperSlowSS

Think of notepad, a book, piece of paper. Thats what it can replace and do much more. It is one of those things where once you start to use it, you will be wondering how you got by without it before. And at $500...thats cheap.

I couldn't have imagined replacing my notebook in school with something like this.

Pieces of paper don't need to be charged to be used, they don't break when you drop them, and aren't succeptible to system crashes and file corruption.