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01-29-2010, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronin  ...that part is a joke. I'm going to let the rest of REVscene school you on the significance of $14/hour.
I'll say again: $500 is cheap. | $500 is not cheap.
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01-29-2010, 05:13 PM
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#177 | | Banned (ABWS)
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Originally Posted by Ronin ...that part is a joke. I'm going to let the rest of REVscene school you on the significance of $14/hour.
I'll say again: $500 is cheap. | They can school me on some stupid inside joke.
$500 is not cheap. If it is, you're probably living with mommy and daddy and will learn one day that $500 isn't cheap.
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01-29-2010, 07:35 PM
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#178 | | Resident Bullshitter
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$500 is cheap
u are just fucking poor to think $500 is a lot of money... I spend more then that one night in a club!
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01-29-2010, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundy Yes, because wanking and whinging about a device you have no intention of buying anyway is SO much more mature. | he can't afford it, thats why he's hating
thats why he is driving some 10 yr old c-class thinking its better then a cheaper Civic (brand name vs pratical, cheap)  | |
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01-29-2010, 07:50 PM
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#180 | | I'll be good I promise.
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$500 isn't cheap hyde, stfu and go sit in the corner
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01-29-2010, 08:20 PM
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$500 is plenty cheap. Most of us have iPhones or other mobile phones that are around that price. Go take a look in the mobile phone thread and check out all the $1000 phones. Head over to the photography forums where $500 will buy you a rather standard camera lens. Maybe to the food forums where you'll see meals from Lumiere or Bishops? Go take a look at the fashion forums where guys spend $500 on jeans. OH RIGHT, we're on a CAR FORUM where people spend thousands modifying their cars. I thought my wheels were expensive when I paid $2000 for them but apparently that's on the thrifty side.
You're on the wrong forum if you think people here think spending $500 on a toy is a lot of money. Go check out VAC and have that heart attack when you see all the folks that drop ten grand on a turbo or something (I'm not much of a car guy myself...).
A regular netbook is slightly cheaper but to be honest, I can't stand using those things. Slow and god, the keyboards are tiny. The same sort of user interface problems may arise on the iPad but hey, NONE OF US HAVE USED IT YET.
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01-29-2010, 08:58 PM
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#182 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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01-29-2010, 08:59 PM
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#183 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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I love this too. Apple's crappy photoshopped promo material shows it loading all these websites (awesome!) but they wouldn't work in reality because they use Flash  | |
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01-29-2010, 09:52 PM
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#184 | | VLS Moderator
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp I love this too. Apple's crappy photoshopped promo material shows it loading all these websites (awesome!) but they wouldn't work in reality because they use Flash | Boo~! What a bunch of fools...class action lawsuit for false advertising coming right up!
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01-29-2010, 10:31 PM
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#185 | | Banned (ABWS)
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This thing doesn't give functions nor status. The end.
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01-29-2010, 10:47 PM
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#186 | | Banned (ABWS)
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any way i can play online pkr on this thing?
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01-29-2010, 10:49 PM
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#187 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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Originally Posted by liu13 any way i can play online pkr on this thing? | No, that would require flash. Someone would have to make an app and sell it on iTunes (oh wait a minute!)
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01-29-2010, 11:37 PM
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#188 | | ...in the world.
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OH NOES! I can't play Spongebob Squarepants!
Seriously, other than YouTube, what do you need Flash for?
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01-30-2010, 12:12 AM
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#189 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by Ronin OH NOES! I can't play Spongebob Squarepants!
Seriously, other than YouTube, what do you need Flash for? | http://www.flashmagazine.com/News/de...tes_use_flash/
7 of 10 biggest sites use Flash
If you was ever in doubt that Flash has become a standard on the web, the latest survey made for Macromedia by Media Metrix should make you certain.
The survey shows that out of the 10 biggest web sites in the US, 7 use Flash content on their web sites.
The 3 sites on the top 10 list that did not use Flash content was Amazon, eBay and X10.com. (We, of course, think that every single one of these sites would have benefited from using Flash content on their pages).
For more numbers, and the TOP 50 list of sites using (or not using) Flash content, check out the web page at Macromedia.com http://www.adobe.com/products/player...s/flashplayer/ http://www.flashmagazine.com/news/de...tes_use_flash/
We all know that Flash is installed on about 98% of all browsers, but how many web pages use Flash? Surveying more than 3.5 million pages, the Opera (browser) developer center found that somewhere between 30% and 40% of all pages tested contained Flash files. The survey also features fun statistics such as AJAX usage, the least popular HTML and CSS tags and the number of pages that validate. Myspace and Facebook also use flash
Uninstall flash on your computer and see how it goes.
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01-30-2010, 12:27 AM
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#190 | | Bieksa eats bears for breakfast...
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I use facebook fine on my iPhone, and that includes videos that people post. Since my iPhone has no flash, it's worked pretty well so far.
$500 is cheap for a gadget. Camera lenses, coil overs, body kits, and more cost more than that. My watch costs more than that, and all it does is tell time - in style of course. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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01-30-2010, 01:37 AM
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#191 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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Originally Posted by Ronin OH NOES! I can't play Spongebob Squarepants!
Seriously, other than YouTube, what do you need Flash for? | Are you for real?
Try uninstalling Flash from your browser for a week, and have it at. You'll replicate the "ultimate browsing experience"
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01-30-2010, 01:42 AM
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I'm gonna have to go with SkinnyPupp on this one.
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01-30-2010, 01:52 AM
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#193 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by Iceman_2K I use facebook fine on my iPhone, and that includes videos that people post. Since my iPhone has no flash, it's worked pretty well so far.
$500 is cheap for a gadget. Camera lenses, coil overs, body kits, and more cost more than that. My watch costs more than that, and all it does is tell time - in style of course. Posted via RS Mobile | My laptop I use to DJ parties with cost $350. My new Mixer was $199 . Hell My Nikon DSLR cost $549 with lens . For $500 I expect something that does more than surf the net and run apps made for a phone.
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01-30-2010, 02:46 AM
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#194 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Seriously ppl. You simply cannot have a decent browsing experience without flash support.
I could tolerate it on the iPhone as it's a cell phone and not meant to have a full web-browsing experience (many sites today have their own mobile design when you connect via mobile devices anyhow like RS)
But on a full size internet browsing device and not having flash?!?! you gotta be kidding me. Specially when you are charging 500 bucks +... the iPad was and still is a disappointing product from what we know so far.
Not only that, what innovation did Apple put into iPad?!?! Multi-touch, iphone did it, 3G browsing+wifi, iphone did it, gaming, iphone did it too. Only thing new for the iPad was the intro of iBooks... which was just another store front for Apple.
On the gaming/app side, I believe most devs would simply go for the lowest common denominator, in this case, the iphone. Hence, most of the games that will be coming out won't be optimized for iPad no matter how much more powerful iPad is. They simply won't release a game on a device that might have like half mil potential users (with some luck) when they could have designed a game to reach out tens of millions iphone users out there.
iPad is going to be the next Apple TV if Apple keeps it the way it is now.
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01-30-2010, 02:52 AM
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#195 | | ...in the world.
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Are you for real?
Try uninstalling Flash from your browser for a week, and have it at. You'll replicate the "ultimate browsing experience" | Maybe I just don't realize it. My whole idea of Flash is all those obnoxious websites that make you watch an annoying intro with overly loud music.
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01-30-2010, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hehe iPad is going to be the next Apple TV if Apple keeps it the way it is now. | Nah, Apple Lisa might be the better analogy...
I will reserve my final judgement until I actually see and use one though. No use praising or damning something you've never used.
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01-30-2010, 04:32 AM
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#197 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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Originally Posted by Ronin Maybe I just don't realize it. My whole idea of Flash is all those obnoxious websites that make you watch an annoying intro with overly loud music. | In 2003, maybe. Right now, Flash is ubiquitous. Google and Apple are leading a rally against it, wanting to replace it with HTML5 and Javascript. However, implementations of HTML5 in browsers is sketchy at best.
The biggest complaint people have about Flash is that designers use it too poorly, and end up with bloated sites. But that's not the fault of Flash, it's the fault of the designers. There is plenty of really horrible Javascript out there as well.
Whether HTML5 is better than Flash or Silverlight is another issue. The point is, the vast (and as you saw above, it really is vast) majority of sites use Flash. To leave it out in a product is bad enough, but one that is supposed to specialize in web browsing is just beyond ridiculous.
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01-30-2010, 04:46 AM
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I made this chart to put things into perspective:  | |
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01-30-2010, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp In 2003, maybe. Right now, Flash is ubiquitous. Google and Apple are leading a rally against it, wanting to replace it with HTML5 and Javascript. However, implementations of HTML5 in browsers is sketchy at best.
The biggest complaint people have about Flash is that designers use it too poorly, and end up with bloated sites. But that's not the fault of Flash, it's the fault of the designers. There is plenty of really horrible Javascript out there as well.
Whether HTML5 is better than Flash or Silverlight is another issue. The point is, the vast (and as you saw above, it really is vast) majority of sites use Flash. To leave it out in a product is bad enough, but one that is supposed to specialize in web browsing is just beyond ridiculous. | I don't know about you but my main complaint about Flash sites is that they're resource hogs. The CPU usage gets significantly higher than usual. Anytime I come across an obnoxious Flash site, I see that shit spike.
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01-30-2010, 04:53 AM
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Not all sites use Flash obnoxiously. That's probably why you don't notice that so many of the sites you visit each day use it.
If you use a Desktop Twitter client, chances are it's Flash based.
I agree that it is very resource heavy. But that's no excuse not to support it in a web browsing tablet. The iPad (and even iPhone) could technically support Flash with no problems at all. They just chose not to. It's not as bad when you are using a mobile browser, but to make a web browsing device and not include Flash? There really is no excuse for it (although I have seen Apple fanboys try. And fail.)
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