The Official Apple iPad Thread

[.Renn.Sport]

I can't imagine how great this thing is when I'm using it to show off my new products to my clients with the gallery app on the tablet.

sure, I can show them using a laptop... but then my client will have to scroll around using a touch pad or zoom by pressing the magnify glass icon, or click individually on each photo using the old cumbersome windows explorer.

and using an iPhone, the screen would be simply too small

it would be great to also use this on site where a laptop would not be a very good option. it would be very useful for real estate agents where they can show the clients the floor plan or quickly show them how the place will look like with different furnishing

there are just so much possibility as a sales presentation device.... I don't see any PC based tablet PC being so intuitive and easy/quick to use for all those basic functions.

but for personal use... I don't think I need to use it at all

but for $499.... i don't think its a big of a deal. I was expecting that this will sell for a minimum of $1099. From using it from a business point of view, even if it was sold for $1500 it would still be a great device and a bargain at $499.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by .Renn.Sport

I can't imagine how great this thing is when I'm using it to show off my new products to my clients with the gallery app on the tablet.

sure, I can show them using a laptop... but then my client will have to scroll around using a touch pad or zoom by pressing the magnify glass icon, or click individually on each photo using the old cumbersome windows explorer.

and using an iPhone, the screen would be simply too small

it would be great to also use this on site where a laptop would not be a very good option. it would be very useful for real estate agents where they can show the clients the floor plan or quickly show them how the place will look like with different furnishing

there are just so much possibility as a sales presentation device.... I don't see any PC based tablet PC being so intuitive and easy/quick to use for all those basic functions.

but for personal use... I don't think I need to use it at all

but for $499.... i don't think its a big of a deal. I was expecting that this will sell for a minimum of $1099. From using it from a business point of view, even if it was sold for $1500 it would still be a great device and a bargain at $499.

I have a 12" HP laptop that doubles as a touch-screen tablet. It cost $800 new 2 years ago and has more ram and processing speed than the iPad.

It will do exactly what you want. HP doesn't sell it anymore. Why? Cause the market is too small for such a niche device.

The market you describe is small, and Apple is not targeting niche markets.

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by taylor192

Did I try to convince you my car was not a waste of money?
Did I try to convince you my car was magical and revolutionary?
Did I try to convince you my car will sell like hotcakes?
Did I try to convince you my car fills a void in the car market?

No.

Nice try though

The point is, you pay more for something that has better fit-and-finish, something that stands out, something that YOU at least consider to look/drive/feel/be better. Are people hating on you because they don't agree with your choice of transportation? Are they hating on your wheels because they think it's ugly or useless or overpriced?

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by Preemo

Hate because the one chance that one great company could come in and sweep the tablet market they fuck themselves in the ass with a weak product.

So? That's THEIR problem. Unless you're a shareholder, why should it matter to you? Especially enough to get yourself in knots over? So much energy wasted over something of absolutely no consequence to your life!

What do you like about it so much that has you defending a product like you are some sort of hero battling the evils of world?

I'm not - I'm defending sanity from the teeming irrational hating masses.

[.Renn.Sport]

Originally Posted by taylor192

I have a 12" HP laptop that doubles as a touch-screen tablet. It cost $800 new 2 years ago and has more ram and processing speed than the iPad.

It will do exactly what you want. HP doesn't sell it anymore. Why? Cause the market is too small for such a niche device.

The market you describe is small, and Apple is not targeting niche markets.

does your 12" HP have multi-touch? no

if the corporate market is small... then Microsoft should be out of business already

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by .Renn.Sport

does your 12" HP have multi-touch? no

if the corporate market is small... then Microsoft should be out of business already

Do you need multi-touch to show pictures to clients? No.

The corporate market is not small, the market you described within the corporate market is small. In my industry, when I want to showcase features to clients I use a 50" plasma TV and a canned demonstration. I have no use for an iPad.

Please stop the niche market arguments, the fanboys are getting pathetic.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by Soundy

The point is, you pay more for something that has better fit-and-finish, something that stands out, something that YOU at least consider to look/drive/feel/be better. Are people hating on you because they don't agree with your choice of transportation? Are they hating on your wheels because they think it's ugly or useless or overpriced?

That's not the point at all. You're such an obsessed fanboy you've lost the point.

The point is the iPad doesn't do anything better than what is currently out there. Its a toy for gadget geeks, like my car is a toy for car enthusiasts.

Stop stretching, I'm not following you off-topic.

[DuhDang]

WOW a bunch of apple fanboys on revscene LOL
GJ Taylor192

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by taylor192

That's not the point at all. You're such an obsessed fanboy you've lost the point.

I'm no fanboy - it doesn't do anything I need, so I'm not going to buy one. Doesn't mean I need to rail on at length about why it sucks. I'm just here to call out the irrational dweebs who think they need to find a reason to be mad, rather than just saying, "it doesn't do anything I need, so I'm not going to buy one."

The point is the iPad doesn't do anything better than what is currently out there. Its a toy for gadget geeks, like my car is a toy for car enthusiasts.

Right, so why are you getting so worked up about it? You just made my point: your car is an overpriced toy for a car geek, but am I getting on your case about that? Am I getting on Mercedes' case for making it in the first place? No.

Stop stretching, I'm not following you off-topic.

It's not off-topic, it's an analogy. But way to miss the point, props for flying right over the edge

[.Renn.Sport]

Originally Posted by taylor192

Do you need multi-touch to show pictures to clients? No.

The corporate market is not small, the market you described within the corporate market is small. In my industry, when I want to showcase features to clients I use a 50" plasma TV and a canned demonstration. I have no use for an iPad.

Please stop the niche market arguments, the fanboys are getting pathetic.

with multi-touch, I don't have to have my sales explain to my clients where the fuck to point to switch to another picture. I'm sure my clients are smart enough to know swiping the screen will be able to change picture after seeing my sales person do it once. and at the same time, my client could do a quote using my web app and email it to my client using the same unit with ease.

like my sales have access to my conference room at any given time or have my clients visit my office every time


the same people like u also like to complain how the iphone lacks features and a lot of customization, but the thing is that it just works and its a lot easier to use, and thats all it matters.

I can have my sales person carrying something like this POS with the HSDPA dongle sticking out


or just carrying an iPad


there is a difference in getting the work done, and getting the work done in style.

[Manic!]

other companies including Fujitsu still make tablets. Fujitsu has been making them since the 90's

Our Export A rep has one and loves it. she also has a battery powered thermal printer to go with it.

Windows 7, Multi touch, web cam, DVD+/-RW, 4 gigs ram, 320 GB HD, and so on for $1160
http://www.directdial.com/A41K21E90B4A3001.html

[+Kardboard+]

wahahahah

19 Rejected Names for the Apple iPad



iPod OB
The Starbucks Attention-Getter
iTouch Maximum
iMac Minimum
Apple Newton v2.0
iPlacemat
The Procrastinatrix
Whammo Novelty Throwing Square
Zune Blaster 3000
Matthew McConaughey's Virtual Bongos
Crotch TV
One More Thing For Your Kids To Endlessly Bug You About Then Break
$800 Coke Mirror
iTheKindleCanSuckItBitch
The Netbook of Sauron
Space Screen of the Future Future FUTURE!!!
iFeminine Napkin
Finally, Another Dealie To Play Solitaire On!
Steve Jobs' Lapsturbator

Read more: http://techland.com/2010/01/28/19-re...#ixzz0dy3z5ZlR

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by Presto

500 bucks is not cheap, especially for the features (or lack of).

It's easy to pick out the Apple fanboys when you look through the comments on Gizmodo and other sites. They're the only ones defending this piece of junk.

$500 is cheap. Sorry, but I make $14 an hour and I don't need to eat at Church's chicken.

All kidding aside, $500 is cheap. I'll probably buy one of these just to play around with but I am rather disappointed by the feature set. If they just lopped off the keyboard off a MacBook Air, I would've bought one already for $1500.

[ericthehalfbee]

One surefire way to know if you've got a hit on your hands is how many people start to complain about it.

Judging by the tremendous amount of hate already out for the iPad (funny since not one of them has actually used one yet) I'm sure this thing is going to be a huge success.

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by ericthehalfbee

One surefire way to know if you've got a hit on your hands is how many people start to complain about it.

Judging by the tremendous amount of hate already out for the iPad (funny since not one of them has actually used one yet) I'm sure this thing is going to be a huge success.

If you have used a Iphone or a Ipod touch you have used one. The only thing this has ia a bigger screen.

[+Kardboard+]

[StylinRed]

Originally Posted by Iceman_2K

Take it from someone who works with the health care industry very intimately (US Health care that is) - they don't. They want everything to occur with one click, and the easier the better. They don't like complexity and don't care for the ability to do more than one thing at one time - especially when liability is on the line if a mistake is made. I've seen doctors ask for workstations that cost upwards to $30000 and all they do on it is put their coffee cup on the top of it and browse the Wall Street Journal. A machine, whether it be a laptop, desktop or whatever, is just a tool. The simpler and easier it is for them to pick up and use, the better.

Most of the remarks so far have been comparing it to the netbook and laptop replacements, or even desktop replacements. That's a pretty limited and short sighted view as to what this device can do and its potential applications.

Ive got a tonnnnnne of doctors in my family (im basically the odd one out) and that's where i hear it from none of them like it except for that 1 guy

perhaps those working in the hospital may enjoy it, but im speaking in terms of your GP

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by ericthehalfbee

One surefire way to know if you've got a hit on your hands is how many people start to complain about it.

Judging by the tremendous amount of hate already out for the iPad (funny since not one of them has actually used one yet) I'm sure this thing is going to be a huge success.

QFT.

People are so focused on what it CAN'T do, nobody's thinking about what it CAN do. Worse, they're focused on what they THINK it can't do, based on... what? A press conference? Or they're just pissed off because it doesn't meet their expectations... expectations based on rumor and speculation in the first place.

Yeah, okay, it doesn't have a ton of storage... storage adds bulk, weight, and power consumption. There's this new idea going around, "cloud computing"... doesn't need any local storage, everything is run over the 'net. Can't load Office on the iPad? Big deal: go Google Docs. Need something more powerful? Take a look at Ulteo: your entire desktop and all your apps are "online". Local storage? Who needs it?

Niche market? Maybe. MP3 players were once a niche market, too. The iPod played a significant role in blowing that market wide-open. Smartphones were a niche market before the Blackberry came along. Nobody calls these things "niche" anymore.

No, the iPad isn't a netbook... it's something different, so there's no point in comparing it.

[Presto]

I think the main thing that annoys people is the price of this thing. For what it does(n't), it's not worth the price of entry. Slash the price in half, and maybe it's worth a look at.

[Soundy]

Wow. Fuck dude, imagine if it was actually starting at $1000, like everyone thought it would be???

There's no pleasing some people. The thing could make your coffee for you and people would complain that it should stir the sugar in for the price.

[Iceman_2K]

Hospitals invest in single purpose hardware all the time - especially in the United States, where the PACS software we create is used. An example, EMC storage space dedicated only to store Radiology images. No other information is stored on there, and its only purpose is to store Radiology images. There's a narrow single purpose technology, which could be used to store other information, but is invested only to store radiology images. And its done at many hospitals that run PACS systems. And this isn't exactly new. Another single purpose technology that hospitals use: workstation terminals in OR/ER operating rooms that only run our web software to view radiology images of the patient and look at the radiologists report of the images. No other software, no other applications, just our web stuff, which is accessed through IE 7.
You asked me to prove you wrong - I have. Every hospital in the united states that i have upgraded or help installed a radiology PACS system, has in one way or another invested in some kind of single narrow purpose technology somewhere in its facility. Its easy to see where in their hospital workflow a device like the IPAD can fit in.

Here's another single, narrow purpose technology used at a hospital: Cardiology Monitoring Systems. The monitor the heart rate of the patient and alert when it falls below a preset level - and some of them, thats all they do. Hospitals can invest in a great system, and use maybe 4 out of 20 available options.

Hospitals that I've seen this sort of single, narrow purpose technology? HCA Florida, UHS Binghampton to name two. HCA Florida is a collection of 5 larger hospitals. They all use a single Radiology PACS system, and what does that system do? Store and show Radiology Images and store and show patient reports. Thats it. It doesn't do billing, it doesn't do dictation.

Originally Posted by taylor192

Find me a hospital willing to invest in hardware that only supports reading reports from the web.

My company's software has web features too, I agree they can be made available on any platform. Yet is a hospital going to invest in a narrow single purpose technology? Past experience says 'no', yet you're free to prove me wrong. Good luck.

[.Renn.Sport]

Originally Posted by Presto

I think the main thing that annoys people is the price of this thing. For what it does(n't), it's not worth the price of entry. Slash the price in half, and maybe it's worth a look at.

price? its only 500 bux.... so wtf did u expect? free???

[Senna4ever]

I just think people's expectations were just too high, much like the Star Wars prequels. I may consider buying one, but I need to see the colour gamut of the screen first to decide if it's good enough for client presentations. It also seems a bit fragile to me.

...and why isn't anyone complaining about Alienware's M11x netbook or the Dell Adamo? Those things are even more overpriced IMHO.

[Iceman_2K]

I was expecting something a little thicker. Do wish that the Bezel was thinner.
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[.Renn.Sport]

Originally Posted by Senna4ever

...and why isn't anyone complaining about Alienware's M11x netbook or the Dell Adamo? Those things are even more overpriced IMHO.

those are in a much smaller niche market
M11X might be high performance, but those looking for a netbook will not wanna buy a 4.5lbs netbook. those wanting performance will think its too slow
only left with those really hardcore gamer, which is hardly anyone

adamo on the other hand was way too expensive, but now that the price is dropped to below a grand, it should be more competitive. Dell's marketing is just no where near aggressive as Sony or Apple in terms of these products.