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Old 01-30-2010, 07:23 PM   #226
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There never was an "English" version, that's why the subtitles.

But hey, my PII server running Warp 4 still multitasks circles around any Windoze machine... people have learned to live without true preemptive multitasking and a fully object-oriented desktop and M$ has made zillions selling them a half-assed OS... why should Apple be any different?
I used to develop software for OS/2 many years ago.

Using the same logic of everyone in this thread bashing the iPad, OS/2 should have trumped Windows many years ago and become the dominant operating system in use these days.
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Old 01-30-2010, 08:57 PM   #227
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Most Windows apps are junk too. There's always 100 useless poorly written programs for every really good one on any platform.

It was mentioned that many websites make poor use of Flash and are nothing more than resource hogs. Does that make Flash bad? No, it means the developers are bad. Same thing with the App Store - there are lots of crappy developers looking to make a quick buck flogging their shitty apps. There are also really good developers who create top-quality apps.

Case in point, a guy at work owns a boat (a real boat) and he bought an iPhone (bought, not signed up and got one free) and an app for navigation with all the charts for the BC coast and Vancouver Island. All for less than half the usual $1,000 and up prices of other commercially available systems. And the accuracy of the iPhone version was just as good (he tested it against a friends system).

I'd like you to tell him that the iPhone and app store is full of useless junk.


And your comment about "pixellation" causes me to lose credibility in anything you say. C'mon, you might as well say that running Windows on a 30" display will make all my Windows programs and icons get "pixellated" because of the much higher resolution. Do you have any idea how software is written and how windows and other items are rendered on a display device? No, I guess not.
Yes except apple filters which apps get through, there is noone filtering the flash content that gets displayed by say FF. They let a lot of garbage through, and reject a lot of good apps. I read an article where people still have no clue what sort of system apple uses when selecting what gets allowed and what doesn't.

Ok, so your friend is one of the people that actually had an iphone be useful. Kinda sad that it isn't actually useful as a phone, but obviously someone has to have a use for those things.

No, I don't know exactly how applications are coded for an iphone, I would assume at least some are based on the current resolution to save on size and would get pixellated when the resolution gets bumped. Obviously higher end apps would account for a possible size change. ie Windows icons and programs are designed to be resized, some programs are not, if you try to increase the size of the icons either that icon stays small or it becomes pixellated. When you try to run a NES emulator fullscreen, it will becomce pixellated, because NES games are designed to run at a set resolution, no?
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Let the fanboys be fanboys. After all, they're the ones dumb enough to keep buying this shit.

Apple could package together a touch-screen god damn toaster called the iToast and they'd still buy it. So what's the point in arguing with them?
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I hear alot of you people arguing about how it's cheap at $500.

First off, it's 500USD.
Secondly, it's 630USD for the lowest end 3G version.

Nobody in their right mind would buy the WiFi only version of this if they were to buy it at all, and whose to say that CAD pricing will match USD pricing? It probably won't, so it's very probable after HST this thing is gonna run like 800CAD.
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If I had to pick one, I would just get the wifi version. Then connected via tether from my iphone. Since I already have the data plan, why would I want to pay for 2.
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It has not been confirmed that tethering is possible on the iPad. Either from or to iPad.

Although it will suck monkey ball if you can't tether to your iphone.
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^^ And you've tried one and know this for sure? You've also tried all the apps on it and decided they're useless and don't do anything that other devices do?

Comparing "specs & features" is pointless. It's the software and how people take advantage of it that will determine if the iPad is junk or something very useful.
On the money.

The reality is: it's 2010, not 1990-2000. There was a time when the computer users and gadget buyers were DOS geeks and upgrade whores. They still exist, but they're just a subset of the market now.

The specs & features ppl at the competition said the exact types of things as ppl here about the iPod. Look what happened.

The specs & features ppl at the competition said the exact same things about the iPhone. In fact, lots of laughing and fanboy name calling ensued (true story). Look what happened.

Netbook and e-book makers now:

I don't know whether the iPad will fall flat or if it'll take off. But if the appstore and itunes/ibookstore give a reason for ppl to buy it, they will. Specs & features ppl obviously won't go for it, but it's not all about them anymore. If you disagree, you're just ignorant of reality. Most of the specs & features gibberish here is pointless, indeed.
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If I had to pick one, I would just get the wifi version. Then connected via tether from my iphone. Since I already have the data plan, why would I want to pay for 2.
LOL you think Apple is going to allow that?
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The specs & features ppl at the competition said the exact types of things as ppl here about the iPod. Look what happened.

The specs & features ppl at the competition said the exact same things about the iPhone. In fact, lots of laughing and fanboy name calling ensued (true story). Look what happened.

Netbook and e-book makers now:

I don't know whether the iPad will fall flat or if it'll take off. But if the appstore and itunes/ibookstore give a reason for ppl to buy it, they will. Specs & features ppl obviously won't go for it, but it's not all about them anymore. If you disagree, you're just ignorant of reality. Most of the specs & features gibberish here is pointless, indeed.
This argument about features and specs being moot is only valid when you have the minimum standard on a device. Even the average fool interested in this product is gonna wonder about the feature set.

I don't remember people being down on the original ipod at all. As a matter a fact it was hailed for its revolutionary design and interface.

The first gen iphone criticism was completely valid and still holds true. The 3G version pretty much rectified all that was wrong with the original.

You ideas are really distorted about the whole sector. Your down on netbooks and ereaders cause of what exactly? I guess its cause of the massive fail that was netbooks and the kindle? Righht...

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I don't remember people being down on the original ipod at all. As a matter a fact it was hailed for its revolutionary design and interface.
not regular ppl.. the ppl in the companies that thought they could compete by adding more specs. it didn't work. The same thing happened when Apple went into the smart phone market. Lots of laughing at their specs.

Even the 3G doesn't have a removable battery, removable sd, multitasking, it's got one shitty camera, no usb, shitty speaker, a headphone jack that doesn't fit all headphones, and in the beginning no mms and copy/paste. Meanwhile, other phones had all that plus tv out, upnp, mobile tv, fully featured built-in apps, more memory, etc..

The average fool didn't care about the spec sheet. It's a boring piece of paper.

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You ideas are really distorted about the whole sector. Your down on netbooks and ereaders cause of what exactly? I guess its cause of the massive fail that was netbooks and the kindle? Righht...
I'm down on them because I believe they'll now have to compete with Apple's ecosystem, even if the iPad doesn't have the specs. Everyone and their dog is trying to catch up by making their own app store.
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OH NOES! I can't play Spongebob Squarepants!

Seriously, other than YouTube, what do you need Flash for?
First thing that pops into my head is Facebook/Flickr for uploading.
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Let the fanboys be fanboys. After all, they're the ones dumb enough to keep buying this shit.

Apple could package together a touch-screen god damn toaster called the iToast and they'd still buy it. So what's the point in arguing with them?
Typical response from someome who can't come up with a valid argument - attack the person instead.

I own an iPhone. That's it. I will never buy a MAC for several reasons: they cost more money, I can't custom build a machine like I can with a PC and they don't run the software I use.

I needed a new phone since my old Motorola was crapping out. I also wanted an iPod. The iPhone made perfect sense. It has never let me down as a phone and getting the included iPod was a bonus. I use it to check e-mail on the road and it works great for that. I have less than 10 apps, a few I use regularly and the rest are games for my kids. There is absolutely nothing any other smartphone can offer me that will improve my life, so why would I even bother to compare "specs"?


BTW, over 90% of the people who own an iPod or iPhone don't own a MAC. Over 90% of iTunes users run it on a PC. Are you going to tell me that Apple's huge success in selling iPods and iPhones is to MAC/Apple fanboys?
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Agreed, I only own an I-touch due to the fact that it gives me an extra 6-7 hours of internet when backpacking. I would have considered a Zune HD had they been out when I bought it. But it's really just a fun toy, I don't care if it's made by Apple or by spongebob square pants company.
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Man a spongebob square pants iphone would be perfect. it wouldn't break if you dropped it or pressed it too hard, and if a firmware update kills it you can just squeeze to clear it out. would be fucking brilliant.
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Man a spongebob square pants iphone would be perfect. it wouldn't break if you dropped it or pressed it too hard, and if a firmware update kills it you can just squeeze to clear it out. would be fucking brilliant.
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Ever wonder why Apple iBots hang onto Steve Jobs' every single word? Maybe there's some subliminal trickery going on:

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^ Funny how haters can have so much free time on their hands to produce such a useless piece of lame (and not very funny) video.

Now what I'm curious about is this:

The market (not just computer but every market) is filled with countless pieces of junk and useless things for sale. Yet I don't see huge threads posted about those items.

As a hardcore PC guy who could care less about MAC's, I find it so funny that the iPad has got you and many other people so riled up.


And SkinnyPupp, don't you run a hardware review site? *** Crosses your site off of places to visit for any kind of unbiased information about the computer industry. ***
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Who says I am biased or unbiased about anything? I am just laughing at the iPad because it's funny. I don't care who made the product, it's retarded.
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^ Funny how haters can have so much free time on their hands to produce such a useless piece of lame (and not very funny) video.

Now what I'm curious about is this:

The market (not just computer but every market) is filled with countless pieces of junk and useless things for sale. Yet I don't see huge threads posted about those items.

As a hardcore PC guy who could care less about MAC's, I find it so funny that the iPad has got you and many other people so riled up.


And SkinnyPupp, don't you run a hardware review site? *** Crosses your site off of places to visit for any kind of unbiased information about the computer industry. ***
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Back in 2001, Apple released a new product called the Ipod. People also hated it at first too:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500&page=6
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Back in 2001, Apple released a new product called the Ipod. People also hated it at first too:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500&page=6
The first generation iPod was sort of terrible. Didn't work on Windows (I wasn't a Mac user back then), firewire only, the mechanical wheel was constantly not doing exactly what you wanted.

However...even then, everyone knew this was it. This was the way music was going to be.
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