Um, no it's not. Stop spreading mis-information. M1 mostly composed of a hydro-cracked GroupIII base stock. If you want a genuine full synthetic oil, then you have to look at Amsoil SSO, which is made of Group IV Polyalphaolefins.

:rolleyes::rolleyes: son i think you are on crack

Darn.. guessing the deal is over?

Son, you better remove that fail you gave me cause you just FAILED yourself.

First off, it is a well know fact that M1 uses a mineral oil base that has been heavily processed to which it meets the criteria to call themselves a "synthetic" oil. Castrol was the first one to do it back in the 90's.

http://www.syntheticoildealer.com/a_...synthetics.htm

Like what Liquidturbo said, a true "synthetic" oil is one made from synthetic base.

I know this is from Motul, but it gives you a good idea of what a true "synthetic" oil is.

http://www.motul-canada.com/en/faq/faq.shtml?panel=6

And yes, it is well known within the S2ki community about not using M1 as it will cause the TCT to fail.

BTW, true "synthetic" oils are made in Europe and cost at least $15 per quart. The cheapest one would be the German Castrol 0W30 which was on sale at CT a few months ago for $7 a quart.

I believe today is the last day of the sale. New ad starts tomorrow IIRC.

so im gonna be heading down to grandview sometime at 7pm to pick some up...r there still plenty left??
thx guys

try re-reading what i wrote, for your reference,

well i consider my self pwned now. thanks for providing all the right info dude, i appreciate it.

no the problem is that i just stopped smoking weed, looks like i need to start up again lol. sorry for spreading all the wrong info guys, looks like i was grossly misinformed.

haha its ok dude. i didnt even know about it until i read the article online.

Mr lube never informed their employees or such. stupid eh? and mobil one supplies them.

To be fair, there is some truth to Pennzoil being not that great. Back in the 50's and 60's, Pennzoil was known for some wax/crud build up in engines, but today their oils are quite good.

I'd go and stock up on some more PP but I already have 12 quarts of the german Castrol 0W30 and 8L of Rotella 10W40.
All this is for the summer when I do track days.

And I also have some PP for my next oil change in 2000 km's.

i wish i bought more german castrol when it was on sale. Im about 2000km away from an oil change and it hasnt gone back on sale since.

Thats not a bad deal, I usually buy my oil when I go to the states. Most often the price is cheaper, and there is no Enviro tax etc...
I have a bit of a sickness where i tend to HOARD Oil whenever it goes on sale. There was a time when Superstore was clearing out their oil I bought:
30x1L Dino Quaker State for 44cents each- 5w20
Formula Shell 4- 6.99/4 liters x2
Quakerstate Q synthetic 15x4.4L- $12.99each

I filled up a whole shopping cart with just oil. My GF reaction was priceless.WTF!! haha

And the ultimate score ever was at Walmart Queensbrough- 5liters jugs of Quakerstate Dino both in 10w30/5w30 for 5 bucks each. Wiped out the whole inventory in multiple trips to and from the car. Had over 40 jugs in my car that time!!..

Aww man.. I don't really need it, but I have this stupid knack for things where I feel like I should "stock up" just because it's momentarily affordable. :p

Walmart is only 24/7 around Christmas time... ;)

Just bought a jug today..but with me being a dumbass, I needed 5W30 instead of the 10W30 that I bought.

Anybody wanna trade?

pm me. thanks!!!

Not 100% sure but today's Canadian Tire flyer is selling Pennzoil synthetic for $26.
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You got any evidence on that? IIRC, it's just an urban myth. But hey, I wasn't around in the 50's, so I could be wrong.

ya i know that, they should keep it that way tho, same thing with superstore
:D

So... You actually believe those "tests"?

You are totally right. There is no concrete proof on the internet, but it is something that has been passed around for a while.

Either way, there is enough proof that the present day Pennzoil is good for it's price. :thumbsup:

i was at the new west walmart yesterday and the only thing i saw for sale at $19.47 was the non-synthetic pennzoil :(

just use it in the summer time when its hot, should be ok no?