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Final bell for Manny Pacquiao?

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Manny Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, delivered this knee-buckling assessment for boxing fans already distraught by the failed Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. negotiations.

"This could be our last fight," Roach said last week, as Pacquiao heads into the final days of training for his March 13 welterweight world title bout against Joshua Clottey at Cowboys Stadium outside Dallas.

Roach's sobering speculation about boxing's biggest star is based on a chain of events that could occur.

Pacquiao, 31, is running for a congressional seat in his native Philippines. If elected in May, he'll represent a community of about 400,000 people in need of improved healthcare, education and employment that the boxer himself was deprived of while being raised in poverty.

"I can see the help people need because I've been in that place," Pacquiao said. "They're poor, suffering, and needing help from the government. I know what they feel."

His public-service duties will be tremendous, the boxer and his closest advisors know, and his election is more realistic than it was when he failed to win a national seat a few years ago.

Pacquiao, recently selected fighter of the decade, has won 11 consecutive fights against the likes of Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto and Juan Manuel Marquez.

If he beats Clottey as expected, and if Mayweather defeats Shane Mosley on May 1, negotiations for a Pacquiao-Mayweather bout are likely to resume.

"I've talked to Manny about this. And if Mayweather doesn't come back to the table in a mood to negotiate, the public demand won't be there for any other fight," Roach said. "So if Manny wins the election and likes politics, this [Clottey fight] could be it. And I have no problem with that. I don't want Manny to be one of those guys who stays too long. It's better to go out on top.

"That's my goal for him, and I've told him, 'Don't do it like everyone else in the world.' "

Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 knockouts) has fought only six fewer bouts than Muhammad Ali, and has boxed the same number of rounds (305) that "Sugar" Ray Leonard had when he retired.

Roach also serves as a reminder of the perils of an overextended boxing career, as he battles the effects of pugilistic Parkinson's syndrome.

Before a recent workout at Roach's Wild Card gym in Hollywood, Pacquiao expressed enthusiasm to fight Mayweather but noted the uncertainty over his future.

"It's hard to say. Is this my last fight? We'll see," Pacquiao said. "One never knows. It's still so early to be talking about this, but I do like the thought of going out on top.

"We did a lot in boxing, achieved a lot -- more than what we set out to do."

Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, said he was "inclined to doubt" that his star fighter would walk away from the sport.

The reason?

"Money," Arum said, referring not only to the $12-million guaranteed payday Pacquiao will get for fighting Clottey, but similar purses he'd generate against other non-Mayweather foes. "That's a fortune in the Philippines," Arum said.

As Pacquiao prepares for Clottey, his workout regimen remains intense. His devotion to the sweet science is such that his sparring partner, Steve Forbes, describes Pacquiao as a human version of a "little Tasmanian devil."

Yet, Pacquiao's popularity gives him options to make a lucrative income outside the sport in acting, music and endorsements.

And the bitterness of the previous Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiations lingers. The fighters argued over Mayweather's insistence to adopt Olympic-style drug testing before the bout. Mayweather's implications led Pacquiao to sue Mayweather for defamation.

"In my opinion, [Mayweather] wasn't ready for the fight, he needed a reason to stop it," Pacquiao said. "People say to me all the time they want to see Pacquiao-Mayweather, Mayweather-Pacquiao, whatever you want to call it, and I'm a fighter," he adds, pounding over his heart with his right fist, "I'm concerned with giving the people what they want.

"Look, if I was bigger than him, I can understand him making this big deal. He's bigger than me. We have a boxing commission in Nevada. They were fine with what we were doing [regarding testing]. The fighter doesn't get to change the rules."

On his Twitter page, Mayweather responded to a follower by asking, "Ask [Pacquiao] why he wouldn't take a $25,000,000 blood test, because I honestly don't know."

Meanwhile, Mayweather's promoter, Richard Schaefer, cast a dire tone about future contract talks.

"I've never said I believe I'll be able to get this fight done the second time," Schaefer said. "Each side feels strongly about its position, and I don't see either side giving in. It could be one of those scenarios where you just move on. Some fights just don't happen. That's the way of life."

And if Pacquiao retires from boxing?

"People wondered, 'Who's going to carry the mantle?' after Oscar retired, and Manny Pacquiao popped up," Schaefer said. "There'll always be a next great star."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...0,331215.story

If Manny can get off the juice long enough, the Mayweather fight will happen. And that will probably be his final fight.

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6838974)

If Manny can get off the juice long enough, the Mayweather fight will happen. And that will probably be his final fight.

Didn't know drinking your own piss in the morning is considered being "on the juice" :haha:

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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6838993)

Didn't know drinking your own piss in the morning is considered being "on the juice" :haha:

that was Juan Manuel Marquez, buddy.

pacquiao can retire after he beats mayweather. then his legacy will be cemented. he'll be up there with the greatest. if he doesn't fight mayweather jr, people will doubt him and say he was scared of mayweather.

and i don't want that cocky bastard to have more ammo. pacquiao needs to shut mayweather up.

how can people say he is scared of mayweather?

it is the other way around as far as I am concerned

mayweather is a bitch cause he knows it would be the closest and hardest fight he will have.

there is no way manny is on juice

manny is already a legend in my eyes and I personally think he is saving boxing as he is willing to fight anyone.

so in summary

mayweather = bitch
manny = legend

Just adding more hype to the fight. What it could be is pacquiao's last fight in his prime as he will probably be entering the ring again a few years from now and not have as big an impact on the sport as he did in his prime.

i still wanna see manny fight mayweather before he retires

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Originally Posted by StealthFighter (Post 6840439)

that was Juan Manuel Marquez, buddy.

pacquiao can retire after he beats mayweather. then his legacy will be cemented. he'll be up there with the greatest. if he doesn't fight mayweather jr, people will doubt him and say he was scared of mayweather.

and i don't want that cocky bastard to have more ammo. pacquiao needs to shut mayweather up.

http://i29.tinypic.com/34ss8ow.jpg

Here's a little interview with USA TODAY that addresses his upcoming fight with Margarito, where he stands on fighting Floyd Jr. (@ 2:00) and the future of his career:

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Originally Posted by StealthFighter (Post 6840439)

if he doesn't fight mayweather jr, people will doubt him and say he was scared of mayweather.

wat

Mayweather/paq fight would be the biggest PPV ever
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 7104154)

Mayweather/paq fight would be the biggest PPV ever
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hell yeah

http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/vi...r1niHDueSXDGZI
Mayweathers a bitch

This was in july

Mayweathers such a bitch

Manny Pacquiao's Fav NBA player: CJ Watson

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/cjwatson.jpg

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...OEHhwD9I7N9RO0

LAS VEGAS — Boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. gave his ex-girlfriend $200 to put under their daughter's pillow for a lost tooth before threatening, hitting and taking a cell phone from the woman in an argument that led to a felony charge last week, according to a police arrest report made public on Monday.

The 33-year-old Mayweather is quoted as threatening to kill 30-year-old Josie Harris and her new boyfriend during the argument early Thursday at a home in southwest Las Vegas, and stating, "I'm going to have you both disappear," according to the report.

Mayweather faces a grand larceny charge over the missing cell phone — not domestic battery or assault — after turning himself in to police on Friday. He was freed from jail on $3,000 bail pending a Nov. 9 appearance in Las Vegas Justice Court.

Mayweather's lawyers have denied wrongdoing on his behalf.

"We are confident the full picture will come out in the future and clarify the situation," defense attorney Karen Winckler said Monday.

Winckler added that the Mayweather camp was waiting to see whether Clark County District Attorney David Roger adds domestic battery or other criminal charges in the case.

Police initially labeled the incident a battery domestic case. The arrest report about the scuffle is similar to an account Harris provided Thursday to obtain a Clark County Family Court protection order against Mayweather.

Both say Mayweather was angry about her a relationship with another man, and both say Mayweather grabbed Harris by her hair, hit her and twisted her arm while yelling that he would kill her.

The couple have three children, ages 7 to 10. The police report provided the account about tooth fairy money and about Mayweather giving an iPhone as a gift to his 10-year-old son. Only the police report includes a reference to the alleged theft of Harris' cell phone.

Mayweather's son told police that Mayweather also took phones from him and his brother.

Police say Mayweather was accompanied by another man when he arrived at the house, and the son told police he witnessed his father hitting and kicking Harris.

Police say Mayweather threatened to beat the children if they left the house or called police, and that Mayweather later used Harris's phone to call her friend, who had accompanied Harris to a Las Vegas hospital for treatment of minor facial injuries and a sore left arm.

The woman hung up on Mayweather, police said.

The value of the phone was put at about $322, meaning that Mayweather could face up to five years in state prison if he is convicted of taking items valued at less than $2,500.

Mayweather and Harris had three children together during what Harris characterized for authorities as a 15-year "on and off" relationship. She said they lived together for seven years before separating in May.

Police said Mayweather wanted to evict Harris from the house, which he owns.

Mayweather is one of the sport's most recognizable figures, with a record of 41-0 and 25 knockouts. He goes by the nickname "Money" and earned more than $20 million in May from his fight in Las Vegas against "Sugar" Shane Mosley.

He also made headlines earlier this month with an online video laced with expletives and racial rants against boxing rival Manny Pacquiao, who faces Antonio Margarito on Nov. 13 at Cowboys Stadium near Dallas.

I read about that a few days ago - what an idiot.

Pacquiao has never dodged Mayweather for a fight. Last time it was over testing, which Manny later agreed to take. After that was a non-issue, Mayweather couldn't take less than 60/40 split, even though Manny was the champ. Mayweather's always coming up with excuses to duck him. IMO it's worse for Manny, not being able to prove his point cause there will always be doubters if the fight never happens.

DeLaHoya's comments:
http://www.examiner.com/boxing-in-na...-duck-pacquiao

On a side note, has anyone read the news about Hatton going into a depression induced, coke snorting spree, after he got annihilated by Manny?

Am I the only one here that is concerned about Pacquiao going into politics? Sorry, doesn't mean he's a great fighter doesn't mean he'll be a great politician.

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Originally Posted by neggo (Post 7104769)

Am I the only one here that is concerned about Pacquiao going into politics? Sorry, doesn't mean he's a great fighter doesn't mean he'll be a great politician.

It's the Philippines, you're giving their government way too much credit.

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Originally Posted by fliptuner (Post 7104734)

On a side note, has anyone read the news about Hatton going into a depression induced, coke snorting spree, after he got annihilated by Manny?

http://media.thenewschronicle.com/wp.../09/hatton.jpg

It's a shame because Hitman is a great boxer.

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Originally Posted by neggo (Post 7104769)

Am I the only one here that is concerned about Pacquiao going into politics? Sorry, doesn't mean he's a great fighter doesn't mean he'll be a great politician.

It's the Philippines. Celebrity is the only credential you need :D

(nahhh I'm kidding, I haven't been there for almost 2 decades so hopefully things aren't like that anymore).

I really want to see Manny beat the snot out of Floyd... one guy is as humble as they come, the other is a stupid, arrogant prick:

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Originally Posted by Wongtouski (Post 7104800)

It's the Philippines, you're giving their government way too much credit.

Sadly you're right lol