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Toyota accidents under investigation in B.C. by ICBC Quote:
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Lol at "duty to protect our customers" |
I'm surprised Timpo hasn't said a thing about this Toyota fiasco.. |
lol ICBC, what a bunch of crap. They prolly doing this to try to get money for themselves. Ripping off BC drivers isn't enough, now it's time to rip off Toyota. |
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If you think that ICBC is the only insurance company doing this.. oh boy.. it's probably happening at every single insurer across the planet. Toyota is in for another world of hurt once they discover more deaths... |
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I have never seen a sticking gas pedal problem that can't be solved in less than 2 seconds by shifting into neutral. They should have owned a late 60's GM car where the motor mounts broke and the mechanical throttle linkages would jam wide open when the engine torque twisted. My 396/375 was infamous for it. Just hit neutral and replace the mounts. No congressional hearings back then. |
No, electronics back then either. eg Modern automatic shift console (where nearly all of these accidents happened) is just an electronic pad, there is no direct to control to the transmission. You can put the stick into neutral all you want, but the if the transmission computer thinks you are not supposed to, you won't get neutral... There is no other way, short of smashing the transmission into bits, since the computer is literally embedded in the oil reservoir... when you are going 60mph in a FWD, that is a bit hard. The issue is not just one computer, but the interaction of programming from computer in the gas pedal, the computer in the transmission and the keyless ignition computer. I can see certain Toyota models will go up in premium. Short of being a stereotypical Asian driver (that needs to drive a golden/champagne colored Toyota).. there are plenty of other choices on the market... Guess want, stuff like this WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. The difference is how the companies deal with it. You see a ton of cultural differences here, where Asians consider "face" the ultimate currency. Quote:
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It seems that no matter where this is brought up, there's always a bunch of people who don't realize "putting it into neutral" doesn't work... |
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http://www.revscene.net/forums/icbc-...a-t607501.html |
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I understand what you guys are saying about the electronics working together. As someone who appreciates the "feel" of driving, I hope manufacturers continue building cars with such things as clutch pedals, manual gearbox's, throttle cables, on/off traction control...etc.. |
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said this was going to happen... but when are the toyota drivers' who were "at fault" going to sue for their losses and increased premiums ? |
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ICBC isn't concerned with all Toyota accidents. For example, parking lot accidents. In order for a throttle to stick, it first has to be depressed. There's no reason to depress your throttle (especially 1/2 or full throttle) when parking your car. What they're concerned with are when people legitimately need to use throttle (like merging or passing) and the throttle sticks causing an accident. I think a lot of Toyota owners are going to be upset when they realize this and that ICBC isn't going to give them any money back because they were too stupid to press the correct pedal when parking their car. |
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