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JiggaZed · 03-09-2010, 09:52 PM

I don't think this should be a very difficult dispute at all...

I've been pulled over at night in the rain for going through a yellow light. Cop pulled me over asked me if I knew what I did. Told him I went through the yellow light because I did not think I'd be able to stop safely with the rain and whatnot. He said okay and let me off with a warning...

JiggaZed · 03-09-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zulutango

The fact that the light turned red before the intersection proves that...

Whatever, just don't admit that the light had turned red while you were in the middle of the intersection and simply say that in your opinion you were too close to the light that when it turned yellow you didn't think you could stop in time and that if you did try to stop you would've come to a complete stop in the middle of the intersection.

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Originally Posted by zulutango

...you said you didn't even attempt to slow down.

You dont' ATTEMPT to slow down. You either DO slow down and stop, or you go through the light. The worst thing you can do is ATTEMPT to slow down, have a guy in oncoming traffic think your stopping and think it's okay for him to make his left turn, and then you decide you can't stop on time so you go through. You either stop or you go. You don't just make an attempt at it....

dimdiu · 03-09-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by taco

forgot to mention that it was on a downhill, at night, and raining
roads were slick, so I didn't want to slide into the intersection or get rear-ended

it doesn't matter if it's at night, downhill, raining, snowing, hurricane etc u need to try and stop when u see a yellow light. A yellow light does not define as: "o i see yellow light" tap the brake, then judge the distance between u and the light and see if u can make it. When you see yellow light, YOU BRAKE, not tap the brake. i hate how ppl like you going through a yellow light at 60, either go through it fast, or u brake. u making a hard time for left turners

and wat kind of car are u driving, i never heard of an excuse of scare of braking on a downhill because there's a chance of sliding into the intersection...either get some new tires...or get some guts and press the brake

IMO u deserve the ticket

Cereal Killer · 03-09-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ziggyx

On top of that I see a lot of people running reds lately.

I've noticed that too. In the last couple of weeks, I've seen several drivers who've stopped for a red and when they see that the intersection's clear, they continue on their way.

JiggaZed · 03-09-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dimdiu

it doesn't matter if it's at night, downhill, raining, snowing, hurricane etc u need to try and stop when u see a yellow light.

This is so dumb. Again, as I said in my last post. You do not TRY and stop. You make a decision based on your best judgement. Will I be able to stop on time or not? It's that simple, and then you either do it or you don't. You do not TRY to stop. You either stop or you go.

Mr.Jay · 03-09-2010, 10:31 PM

Only way ur gonna win this dispute is if the cop doesn't show up. Its a losing case.

In your own addmission u state u crusing along at 60 and when the light turned red you were about 80% into the intersection which would mean u clearly saw the yellow from a decent distance away.

Yellow lights only premit you to go through only when you pass the point of no return, where trying to stop would be more dangerous than going through.

Also like other people already stated the conditions of the road aren't helping your case cause the judge will probably agree that if the road conditions were iffy why weren't you driving slower?

Do you have a pretty clean record? The judge might be nice and let you off.
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StylinRed · 03-09-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

Also like other people already stated the conditions of the road aren't helping your case cause the judge will probably agree that if the road conditions were iffy why weren't you driving slower?

i don't think your required to go slower, its just the safe/smart thing to do (although i dont really know about traffic violations etc)

like i said the op has a chance of winning his dispute as he knows better than the officer about his own abilities and his cars ability to handle stopping at that time with those conditions

sure it will bring up other questions and concerns.. but he still has a chance

the judge could just find the op had bad judgment, acted improperly and still uphold the fine.. or he may lower it

after all this though it doesn't change the fact that the op is an idiot but still worth a shot

JiggaZed · 03-09-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

Only way ur gonna win this dispute is if the cop doesn't show up. Its a losing case..........
Do you have a pretty clean record? The judge might be nice and let you off.
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Cool....

PiuYi · 03-09-2010, 11:23 PM

in my opinion, theres never anything wrong with disputing ticket (other than losing that $25 u save from paying early)

even if you have no argument, disputing gives you the chance of:
1) cop not showing up (heard this is rare case now)
2) cop says something wrong in courtroom, ie doesn't identify you in statement or something (don't know how often this happens, but probably rarely as well)
3) talking with the cop beforehand, admitting fault, asking him to plea your case with JP to reduce fine (don't know how often this happens either)
4) gaining courtroom experience (happens 100% of time)

at worst, you go into court room, admit you did it, then pay the fine, even then you managed to delay paying for it

tofu1413 · 03-10-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by taco

cruised at 60

legal limit is 50 under IDEAL conditions. it was raining/ slick. you should be SLOWER.

honestly you would be even more stupid to say that you were doing 60 in court.

JiggaZed · 03-10-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tofu1413

legal limit is 50

Unless stated otherwise......................................... ..

tofu1413 · 03-10-2010, 01:57 AM

only part of granville that is 60 (that i can think of) is the bridge itself.

i dont think the airport bridge downhill part is 60

Shun Izaki · 03-10-2010, 02:07 AM

DIGGY's theory on stoplights

green = go
yellow = go faster
red = watch for cops and proceed with caution XD

dimdiu · 03-10-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JiggaZed

This is so dumb. Again, as I said in my last post. You do not TRY and stop. You make a decision based on your best judgement. Will I be able to stop on time or not? It's that simple, and then you either do it or you don't. You do not TRY to stop. You either stop or you go.

not everyone in the world can estimate if they will be able to stop before the light or not.

Mugen EvOlutioN · 03-10-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shun Izaki

DIGGY's theory on stoplights

green = go
yellow = go faster
red = watch for cops and proceed with caution XD

ok..............

how about
green = go
yellow = downshift into vtec
red = u are fucked son

y2k?!?- · 03-10-2010, 01:16 PM

I personally think that trying to dispute this will be quite hard in fact,
Ive heard people doing it when it was wet or snowing.. unless ive missed a part of this..
Good luck on the dispute tho!

Lomac · 03-10-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dimdiu

not everyone in the world can estimate if they will be able to stop before the light or not.

And not everyone should be allowed to drive a car. Judging your stopping distance is one of the most basic bits of knowledge you need...
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syncmaster · 03-11-2010, 06:30 PM

i once had a chat with a traffic authority.. and he told be by law he can give out tickets if they see you run a yellow light..

good luck on fighting that ticket

CRS · 03-11-2010, 07:29 PM

I wAnder here the OP went...