Spending money on clothes

[Harvey Specter]

Originally Posted by svelt

lol people get sensitive on this thread.

try posing this question on redflagdeals.com and then the same thing on styleforum.net. The gulf between the two extremes is like Bill Gates and a somali farmer.

Some people blow money on what *I* find to be the most ridiculous shit (90% of all car mods, $30 DVDs to be seen once, $200 on drinks at a club, a $2,000 14 day "vacation" that mostly involves lying on a beach, a $3,000 computer system to play WoW on to extend your virginity, a 400 sq ft yaletown condo for half a million, a BMW X6 etc.)

If you partake in any of those, ask yourself - Is a $1,000 suit or $350 oxford shoes that will both last at least 3 years really that unreasonable after all? Hell a couple of Canucks games will wipe that out. Now where do you get off on criticizing how others spend their own money, unless it's blatantly stupid (See: $250K jeans).

+1.

[raygunpk]

Originally Posted by svelt

lol people get sensitive on this thread.

try posing this question on redflagdeals.com and then the same thing on styleforum.net. The gulf between the two extremes is like Bill Gates and a somali farmer.

Some people blow money on what *I* find to be the most ridiculous shit (90% of all car mods, $30 DVDs to be seen once, $200 on drinks at a club, a $2,000 14 day "vacation" that mostly involves lying on a beach, a $3,000 computer system to play WoW on to extend your virginity, a 400 sq ft yaletown condo for half a million, a BMW X6 etc.)

If you partake in any of those, ask yourself - Is a $1,000 suit or $350 oxford shoes that will both last at least 3 years really that unreasonable after all? Hell a couple of Canucks games will wipe that out. Now where do you get off on criticizing how others spend their own money, unless it's blatantly stupid (See: $250K jeans).

LOL @ wow comment. you're right though.

every person though will always put a big chunk of their change on only a single thing. if somebody is criticizing you for spending too much on one thing, you can equally say the same to them for spending it on another.

my friend tells me it's stupid to go spend so much money to play hockey, but i can say the same in that he goes to the club so often.

NOBODY just works and then goes home and sits doing nothing.

[tacobell]

Originally Posted by svelt

lol people get sensitive on this thread.

try posing this question on redflagdeals.com and then the same thing on styleforum.net. The gulf between the two extremes is like Bill Gates and a somali farmer.

Some people blow money on what *I* find to be the most ridiculous shit (90% of all car mods, $30 DVDs to be seen once, $200 on drinks at a club, a $2,000 14 day "vacation" that mostly involves lying on a beach, a $3,000 computer system to play WoW on to extend your virginity, a 400 sq ft yaletown condo for half a million, a BMW X6 etc.)

If you partake in any of those, ask yourself - Is a $1,000 suit or $350 oxford shoes that will both last at least 3 years really that unreasonable after all? Hell a couple of Canucks games will wipe that out. Now where do you get off on criticizing how others spend their own money, unless it's blatantly stupid (See: $250K jeans).

If you read my original post, i stated i wasn't painting anyone in a negative light, so please don't misquote me saying i'm going off on ppl, i just wanted to know how you guys justified your purchases - mainly referring to basic items like an hoodie or t-shirt.

I too want to spend money on these items, but I can't bring myself to throw $400 on a hoodie or $200 on a t shirt no matter how hard i try to talk myself into it.

If you are making good coin, spending this kind of money on t shirts and other basics would certainly be justified since you can clearly afford it, but i have acquaintances, some friends that make $10-$12 an hour and they are all up in this gear. Is everyone really living at home with a mountain of disposable income?

[Phil@rise]

Originally Posted by tacobell

I've been reading through the thread, 'List your latest fashion purchases' and it's got me wondering how do you guys justify spending your money on expensive clothes? I'm not saying you shouldn't spend your money on expensive clothes, but what are some of the things you tell yourself to justify your purchase?

I make about $60k a year, I'm not a cheap person, I spend money, I like to think I have ok fashion sense, but I can never convince myself to spend $400 on a hoodie or $200 on a t-shirt. Actually in the fashion purchases thread, saw a few ppl posting jackets they purchased for over 2 grand.

Some ppl i've talked to say they work hard for their money and they deserve whatever item they are purchasing, but how do you overlook the price on a 2 grand jacket? Even if you make over 200k a year, which i think accounts for only 2% of the population, 2k is still a lot of money (at least to me)

Other say the more expensive items are of better qualify, I won't dispute that, but how much longer will a $400 hoodie last as opposed to my $60 dollar hoodie?

I'm not painting anyone in a negative light, just wanting to know how you guys go about it.

Tacobell? really your rs name is tacobell? And you claim your not cheap.

I got nothin else

[Marco911]

Originally Posted by tacobell

If you read my original post, i stated i wasn't painting anyone in a negative light, so please don't misquote me saying i'm going off on ppl, i just wanted to know how you guys justified your purchases - mainly referring to basic items like an hoodie or t-shirt.

I too want to spend money on these items, but I can't bring myself to throw $400 on a hoodie or $200 on a t shirt no matter how hard i try to talk myself into it.

If you are making good coin, spending this kind of money on t shirts and other basics would certainly be justified since you can clearly afford it, but i have acquaintances, some friends that make $10-$12 an hour and they are all up in this gear. Is everyone really living at home with a mountain of disposable income?

I think that's where the term 'poseur' comes from? Someone mimicking a look of status and wealth in order to get the benefits from it (better treatment, more respect, more pussy etc). Buying a $200 hoodie is far more feasible than buying a $100K Porsche or living in a million $ apartment.

[darnold]

Two of my best friends are cops in Vancouver and they laughingly mentioned to me that 90%+ of the newer BMW/Mercedes vehicles that they pull over are leased.

The emergance of modern day credit can give anyone with even a half ass decent job the "illusion" of wealth.

[darnold]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

Because people feel inadequate and need to compensate for it by spending a lot of money on fancy brands and trendy clothes? I heard one member say quite literally that "the clothes make the man". Well if you are that pathetic, I feel bad for you.

What he said.

If you're a hideous motherfucker, no amount of $$$ on clothing will save you.

[hal0g0dv2]

Originally Posted by darnold

Two of my best friends are cops in Vancouver and they laughingly mentioned to me that 90%+ of the newer BMW/Mercedes vehicles that they pull over are leased.

The emergance of modern day credit can give anyone with even a half ass decent job the "illusion" of wealth.

[tru_blue]

or paid by their parents

Originally Posted by darnold

Two of my best friends are cops in Vancouver and they laughingly mentioned to me that 90%+ of the newer BMW/Mercedes vehicles that they pull over are leased.

The emergance of modern day credit can give anyone with even a half ass decent job the "illusion" of wealth.

[filth]

Originally Posted by darnold

Two of my best friends are cops in Vancouver and they laughingly mentioned to me that 90%+ of the newer BMW/Mercedes vehicles that they pull over are leased.

The emergance of modern day credit can give anyone with even a half ass decent job the "illusion" of wealth.

Most people that own businesses also lease their vehicles. Just throwing it out there so you don't think all of them are broke as fuck and pretending to be rich. I can understand if the cops were talking about pulling over BMW 323s and Mercedes C250s and they were all leased.

[darnold]

Originally Posted by filth

Most people that own businesses also lease their vehicles. Just throwing it out there so you don't think all of them are broke as fuck and pretending to be rich. I can understand if the cops were talking about pulling over BMW 323s and Mercedes C250s and they were all leased.

My police friends were just talking about high end german cars in general.

Dont confuse owning a business with having a high income. Entrepreneurship isnt some sure fire road to financial independence. For every success story in my own field and other related industries, I can think of MANY other examples where guys who have their own companies still make fuck all.

[MR_BIGGS]

"To each their own"

[Sid Vicious]

Originally Posted by filth

Most people that own businesses also lease their vehicles. Just throwing it out there so you don't think all of them are broke as fuck and pretending to be rich. I can understand if the cops were talking about pulling over BMW 323s and Mercedes C250s and they were all leased.

hey dont you post on sufu under the same name? you got a neg train ran on you homie

[filth]

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious

hey dont you post on sufu under the same name? you got a neg train ran on you homie

yea, i have like -1600 cause i asked a question in the TOJ thread when i first signed up. Pretty stupid, but it doesnt really matter.

[Sid Vicious]

Originally Posted by filth

yea, i have like -1600 cause i asked a question in the TOJ thread when i first signed up. Pretty stupid, but it doesnt really matter.

lol just repped u....u still at 0 hahahah

[j2oxstar]

you shouldn't be buying focused on expensive clothing if you're making 10$ an hour, there's a difference between being able to buy something and being able to afford it

[v.Rossi]

^ the term you're looking for is poser. dressing rich when you're not.

in the end it comes down to priority, buy what you like.

it's stupid yes to buy a $300 hoodie if you're making $10/hr. that's where personality comes in along with style. in the end, wear what you want. someone is always going to judge you, that's where being yourself comes in. if you're this judgemental about what to wear or what people think, then this isn't really about clothes nor money. it's about you being extremely self-concious.

now let's wrap this thread up.

edit: keep in mind majority of this forum is full of guys.

the goal is to impress girls not guys, i'm not implying with clothes. but if you blew $400 on a hoodie making minimum wage, we would laugh at you. the typical golddigger would LAVVVVV you, you would be getting blowjobs here and there. within a months time, she'll have that LV bag.

i would call you a dumbass, but as i stated earlier everyone judges.

[filth]

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious

lol just repped u....u still at 0 hahahah

haha thanks, im actually at -1700 now. lmao. It's all good though, it's only bad if i want to buy something off there, then people might be hesitant about it lol

[mowontech]

people that run their own business gets discount for leasing cars.
some people don't like the hassle of selling the car later on and so they don't buy expensive cars. they lease them. Some people like to switch cars often so they lease them.

[shawn79]

how much discount do u get for leasing

[Professir]

It's rather tragic when I think about 21st century materialism. I'm definetely not clearing my own name off the list of the accused, but for heaven's sake... Why must we spend so much money on clothes?

Yes, I'm a self proclaimed shop-a-holic. I must engage in my weekly dosage of retail therapy to maintain my saneness. But I often feel guilty of buying what I don't need. Obviously, some (probably most) of you reading this thread will argue that nice clothing is a mannered representation of self. It raises self confidence, and elevates self image. However, I believe some people on this thread have taken it too far. For $500, you can help pay for a kid's entire elementary and post-secondary education in China. How is it that we are able to justify our unnecessary purchases, when that money can be used instead to change someone's life? For some of the intense shoppers out there, do you really need that new Gucci jacket for $3000 even though your closet is already on the verge of explosion? Is it really that important you add another fancy dress-shirt to your already immense collection? I'm not religious in any sort of way... But I feel morally deflated when witnessing these events unfold infront of me. When did vanity overcome humanity? An insignificant loss for us can mean the entire world for someone else.

Plus, clothing is categorized as one of the worst possible investments. Unlike real estate, the price of clothing ALWAYS(other than a FEW rare cases) declines over time.
I think visual representation of oneself is nothing but a minority of his/her character. I've much more respect for the man dressed in GAP who gives back to the community rather than the white collar manhattan banker decked out in Prada.

Hope that wasnt too harsh lol. Whaddo you guys think?

[Ronin]

Money is money. It's for spending. Lots of quality stuff that looks good is expensive. If you enjoy style, usually you'll be spending a bit.

Of course, there are plenty of fashionable brands/stores that cost next to nothing. I mean, look at UNIQLO...great looking clothes made to decent quality. Minimalist, GQ-style at the same price as crap like Old Navy.

[Zyzz]

Originally Posted by darnold

Two of my best friends are cops in Vancouver and they laughingly mentioned to me that 90%+ of the newer BMW/Mercedes vehicles that they pull over are leased.

The emergance of modern day credit can give anyone with even a half ass decent job the "illusion" of wealth.

it is cheap to lease a entry level german car, but it is even cheaper to lease most japanese cars. To me, that second sentence sounds like nothing but QQ

Originally Posted by Professir

It's rather tragic when I think about 21st century materialism. I'm definetely not clearing my own name off the list of the accused, but for heaven's sake... Why must we spend so much money on clothes?

Yes, I'm a self proclaimed shop-a-holic. I must engage in my weekly dosage of retail therapy to maintain my saneness. But I often feel guilty of buying what I don't need. Obviously, some (probably most) of you reading this thread will argue that nice clothing is a mannered representation of self. It raises self confidence, and elevates self image. However, I believe some people on this thread have taken it too far. For $500, you can help pay for a kid's entire elementary and post-secondary education in China. How is it that we are able to justify our unnecessary purchases, when that money can be used instead to change someone's life? For some of the intense shoppers out there, do you really need that new Gucci jacket for $3000 even though your closet is already on the verge of explosion? Is it really that important you add another fancy dress-shirt to your already immense collection? I'm not religious in any sort of way... But I feel morally deflated when witnessing these events unfold infront of me. When did vanity overcome humanity? An insignificant loss for us can mean the entire world for someone else.

Plus, clothing is categorized as one of the worst possible investments. Unlike real estate, the price of clothing ALWAYS(other than a FEW rare cases) declines over time.
I think visual representation of oneself is nothing but a minority of his/her character. I've much more respect for the man dressed in GAP who gives back to the community rather than the white collar manhattan banker decked out in Prada.

Hope that wasnt too harsh lol. Whaddo you guys think?

The world doesn't work like that. Going by your definition, nothing luxury should exist then. Luxury items are made for successful people to reward themselves. If someone makes 200k a year, im sure he will treat himself a litte better. Accept it or not, clothing and cars are indicators used by most people to separate themselves into levels. And many people use them to show which level they are in.

[Professir]

Originally Posted by vsvs

The world doesn't work like that. Going by your definition, nothing luxury should exist then. Luxury items are made for successful people to show off their superiority and reward themselves. If someone makes 200k a year, im sure he will treat himself a litte better. Accept it or not, clothing and cars are indicators used by most people to separate themselves into levels.

To correct you, I never said luxuries shouldn't exist. And obviously our world doesn't work like this, or I wouldn't need to stress my point. There's a difference between buying a luxury good vs excess spending on unnecessary commodities. For example, I have 3 suits. Two blacks, one gray. Since they're all designed and produced by so-called luxurious fashion labels, I believe I've provided myself with sufficient luxury. I don't understand why some people have wardrobes containing 20 suits in each color, with each suit consisiting of arguably insignificant differences (for example, a gray suit with ultra thin white stripes vs a gray suit with thin white stripes) which allows the wearer to say they're "different".

Maybe you're saying luxuries provide good motivation for your average capitalist. Yes, I would definetely agree. Consumer goods are an excellent incentive, a key element of any free market society. However, just because we have the right to do something, should we do it? If I chose so, I could encrust my PS3 controller with exotic diamonds (Yes, I've actually seen someone attempt this on Cribs), but isn't that rather irrational?

Even if you are making upwards of 200K per year (a vast minority of our population), why should you deserve more than anyone else? Someone who happens to make 200K or more is likely to be well educated, witty, and intelligent. But do you ever ask yourself... How did he get so rich? OPPORTUNITIES. In a country like Canada, we're heavily influenced by the notion of the American Dream; fortunes come to those who deserve it. In a country like Canada, success falls upon those who work hard (with a touch of luck, of course). But in a poor area, such as the villages of China, you're never given an opportunity. Even if you do have the potential to succeed, you're never given the chance to walk that path. I think its too often that we fail to consider ourselves in other peoples shoes; we think we "deserve" better just because we had a better starting position than someone who was less fortunate.

I have many Jewish friends. They are kind and moral people, nothing like the individuals who I will now begin to describe. Do you know the arguably most significant reason which sparked the holocaust? Before the war, Europe was going through the great depression. The people who had money (of which most were Jewish) had enough money to help people out. By help, by no means am I proposing they give it all away, but they could have lent people money. However, these people decided to spike the interest rates of loaning so high that people had a difficult time paying them back even after the depression. As the rest is common knowledge; Hitler, along with his Nazi regime, killed off millions of innocent Jews for the atrocities of a few. This is what an excess amount of selfishness and greed will do to a society, and by no means do I ever want to witness a neo-holocaust in the future.

If you put yourself in the shoes of a starving child, how would you feel if I came up to you and said "sry bro... your probably gonna die cause some guy decided to buy a new pair of jeans, since he got bored with his other 300 pairs". I just think it's rather pitiful how most of us would rather buy a "dead" piece of clothing opposed to saving a "live" person.

[Ronin]

If someone makes 200k a year, they've working in a field that is in high demand. That high demand is brought on by short supply of people in the field. For example, not everyone is qualified to be a doctor and the number of doctors required per unit of population creates demand for the job. If a person is qualified to be a doctor, then they deserve more than anyone else because otherwise, there would be no doctors.

Seriously, that's the flaw I've always seen with the communist model. High paying jobs usually require a high level of training and hard work. If a doctor got the same deal as a janitor or someone that works at McDonald's or a slacker sitting on his ass, no one would ever want to do anything that requires hard work. I sure as hell wouldn't.

Sorry but we are not responsible for the fortune of others. I'm not saying every man for himself but by no means should I feel bad for spending money on something while someone else is poor. Obviously there are those in extremely improvished nations that simply cannot help themselves but in a first world country, people are given every opportunity take responsibility for their own fate.