fuck with them how? like rev high? i've been looking at upgrading an STI for a year now and the only thing holding me back is the shit i hear about it on the sti forums...

Fuck with them as in cranking put on parts without getting a proper tune, thus making the engine run too lean as well as increasing knock counts. I wouldn't worry about it too much, normal maintenance and not being a dumbfuck can make any engine reliable. If anything, I gota say the new 4b11T is pretty darn reliable, I changed the MAF sensor housing, and in effect, fucked up my AFR as well as my boost level, so I was logging my car in four gear and I found out I was overboosting at 30 psi and had consistent over 30-40 counts of knocks over 4000-7000 RPM :eek:. In other words, I almost blew my engine, thank god it didn't.

Modified boosted boxers, sure. Does not apply to NA (since we're comparing to a Honda). Which takes us back to your point about old boxers.

IMO you should just drive both and see which one you like more. In the end, it is your decision.

i agree, dont buy a car because others dont consider it "sporty" enough

I got a SIR. so SI hands on

civic si hands down, get a 4door or something if u want a bit more room.
u will ALWAYS regret getting the fit later on when u just want that LIL bit of power and knew u could of had a choice of the SI, thats just human nature.

as 4 xtc's comment about boosting the fit.. if u REALLY wanna throw 30psi into a lil engine... go 4 it..but in the end ur gonna wish u had the 4g's 2 blow on something else and a sunroof in ur car :thumbsup: