nah, imagine if they changed their beloved football from yards to meters.....chaos

wow, obama is the man. It's funny how America is founded in the name of God but its policies deviates so much from the will of God. Only history will tell whether Obama is a genius or a mad man

good, maybe they will stop coming here and cheating our system for free healthcare...

is the bill passed, the original version put forward or water downed version to please the republicans?

you are a gigantic idiot... please brush up on your history and political science.
"The United States is in no sense founded upon Christian Doctrine"
- George Washington

Canada was founded in the name of God too.... are you saying a health care plan is ungodly?

lol now it'll be even more a hassle to get into the US at the borders. They wont just be concerned we're goin to steal their jobs but medical now too haha. About time america!

One day in the coming years when Obama is out of office people will look back and see the good he's done for America. How many times have we seen his kind of scenario repeated in history?
People are so contradictory, but that's the nature of politics. The job of being an opposition party like the Republicans is to oppose the ruling party, despite what's on their agenda and how much good it would really do for the country if it were to be passed.

But good job Obama, hopefully the American people will see what he's done for them soon.

Yeah right. If you're going down to the states for medical reasons ( surgery, scans ) you are probably paying for it because you don't want to wait for it here.

It's not like they will do it right away, free of charge, now that this reform has been approved.

this made no sense

Um, he's on CNN and he's far from a puppet, he was actually offered the position of surgeon general in the Obama administration.

cnn is just as bad as fox as of late..all propaganda

never gonna happen.

costs too much to change all the textbooks and retrain all the educators.

It's entirely possible the doctors will take a paycut. it's also entirely likely that the hospitals will no longer be able to gouge for everything they give out. $100 for a bandaid? For aspirin? Seriously?

Actually, I believe that the "Word of God" says nothing about communism or capitalism, nor about socialist policies.

Last time I checked Jesus was all about "love your neighbor" and "do unto others" and..oh, wait...what's that christian list of don'ts...ah! The seven vices. Things like greed! Capitalism is simply a revised streamlined version of the vice of Greed.

If you plan to live there be ready to be required by law to buy insurance, even if you don't want it, subject to a $2,200 fine. They are hiring about 17,000 new IRS people to go after people who don't pay and will monitor you monthly to check that you have the insurance. As an employer you also must pay for employees insurance. If you are an illegal alien, don't worry. You don't have to pay for your free coverage..those paying the $2,200 fines are covering you. A lot more to this than is covered in the mass media, where it is massaged by spinmaters. BTW...the hospital "gouging" is to pay for the illegals or people who did not have coverage...they get people with money and/or coverage to pick up the tab for those without it.

metric > imperial

but i run the hybrid system

mm, inch, foot, meter, km
celcius
grams, lbs
cups, L

Good news for the average person, but it's going to mean lots of insurance companies closing down~

anyone else lol'ing at all these Obama Health...Stop Him! google ads on this thread?

theres a youtube video that was made during the protests at "the tea party"

where a guy with MS or something debilitating like that sat outside on the ground with a sign that says he needs health care

and the protesters were cursing and spitting on him and throwing dollars in his face etc etc

i bet those guys are seething atm




I was wrong about this thing, it has nothing to do with Obamas plan. it regards the state health care system cutting coverages, because the states are going broke

woohoo! congrats!

We as Canadians think this is great for America, but I feel sorry for those Americans who worked hard to achieve their American Dream but now have to help pay health care to those scums of society you see on TV, Obese, live in a mobile home, cashes in welfare cheques, make stupid lawsuits for a quick buck etc. Even worse for small mom & pop businesses, how can they afford health insurance for every employee?

I'm all for Obama, but health care reform now? maybe second term when the economy is more stable and unemployment is less than 9.8%

Universal health care is like having kids. Everyone says they want to "wait for the right time". There is no "right time", there is only the time that you have.

That is actually wrong, first year penalty is roughly around $300. It increases as the years go by that you do not have coverage.

This makes sense for a number of reasons. If you cannot afford healthcare, you will receive a subsidy.

If you are a moron who can afford healthcare but do not want to pay it, the fine attributed will still be less than the amount in which you would pay for health insurance coverage yearly.

Give me a break, we all have to pay MSP in Canada whether you use it or not.

If you end up in a car accident and go to the hospital, THE HOSPITAL WILL TREAT YOU. Unless everyone in the States who wishes to not purchase coverage will also agree to NEVER attend a hospital no matter the emergency, than a fine is a fair compromise.

It is a system that is required in order to work. If we had the option to not pay into MSP, out Universal Health Care system would not work, it is all dependent on the pool.