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Old 03-21-2010, 10:00 PM   #1
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American Health-Care Reform PASSED!

Spoiler!


Put inside spoiler tags for those of you who are going to TLDR me. Americans have just tonight passed health care reform that will cause several major changes in the way American healthcare works:
-Mandatory health insurance backed by fines for noncompliance and government grants for low-income individuals
-Gradual phase-out of insurance companies' abilities to deny coverage based on "prior conditions"
-Gradual phase-out of insurance companies' abilities to deny coverage to those who are too 'costly' to insure
-Granting youths the right to keep their parents' insurance until the age of 26

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I'm kind of surprised there isn't a topic on this already; mad props to the yanks says I! It's about damned time!
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:02 PM   #2
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Congrats USA! You finally jumped the boat
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:03 PM   #3
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Let's hope the next thing they do is switch from bloody Imperial to Metric.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:04 PM   #4
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Not everything comes into effect till I believe 2014.
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it's great an all that they might get the reform, but here is some food for thought....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...s_reality.html
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Not everything comes into effect till I believe 2014.
Hence gradual phase-out.

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it's great an all that they might get the reform, but here is some food for thought....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...s_reality.html
Most of what that is talking about is the immediate cost. Unfortunately, America has been facing ballooning health care costs for the last 40 or more years resulting from some of the systemic imbalances that exist in the system.

Is it going to cost them short-term? yes. Save long-term? yes.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:29 PM   #7
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obama's rally was successful..he's probably glad he delayed his asia trip
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through reconceliation?

i can't wait to see what glenn becks reaction. Maybe he'll flee to some other country.
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finally!! I expect Canada to even improve on our current system.

i hope dentist and optometrist will be covered under medical service insurance.
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its not perfect..but its in the right direction
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wow never knew it wouldve pass
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I'm kind of surprised there isn't a topic on this already; mad props to the yanks says I! It's about damned time!
i thought about it when i first heard about it but thought it might be too complicated and/or dull for RS.


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What happened with that Vote the republicans wanted to hold immediately after this vote passed?

I thought the republicans won that vote which thereby "kills" or postpones this bill??



couple of family members with clinics in the states says this health care reform is going to seriously kill their income. Sanjay Gupta on CNN was saying the same thing about this going to seriously ruin some doctors income
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its not perfect..but its in the right direction
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It shouldn't. It's going to impose reasonable caps for common servies and checkups, and create a streamlined service style like we have here in canada (GP->Specialist->Whatever).

Plus, a majority of insurance providers are still providing access to specialists for those who choose to have that option in their policy.
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all hail obama.

lol.. and the other day, I overheard some ppl bitching about obama not doing anything.
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Obama said he would get the reform passed even if it meant that he was a 1 term President. You have to give him props and the Dems for voting this bill into law even though most of the Dems who voted "Yes" will not get reelected in Nov because of their vote. It also means that the Republicans will most likely get majority in Nov unless the benefits of the reform start to show before the elections.
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Obama said he would get the reform passed even if it meant that he was a 1 term President. You have to give him props and the Dems for voting this bill into law even though most of the Dems who voted "Yes" will not get reelected in Nov because of their vote. It also means that the Republicans will most likely get majority in Nov unless the benefits of the reform start to show before the elections.
Could you blame Obama for only wanting to be a 1-term president after his first couple of years in office?

The fact that all of the Republicans voted against this bill, even if it basically preserves the principle of private health care, would be enough for any reasonable and intelligent man want to flee to a tropical island for a very long time.
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Good on Obama for persisting to get this reform passed. It is not perfect but neither is our system but it is a step in the right direction. Hopefully we have some changes to our system next.
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if the republicans win a majority in the next election and obama turns out to be a one and done because of this, isnt it likely that all this will get squashed before it even gets going?
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What happened with that Vote the republicans wanted to hold immediately after this vote passed?

I thought the republicans won that vote which thereby "kills" or postpones this bill??



couple of family members with clinics in the states says this health care reform is going to seriously kill their income. Sanjay Gupta on CNN was saying the same thing about this going to seriously ruin some doctors income
sanjay gupta is a fox news puppet
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I'm interested in seeing the developments in the US healthcare & insurance industry. Either insurance companies withdraw from the market, or doctors and hospitals take a huge pay cut, or the government foots the bills and finds out it isn't sustainable.
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