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GoDaddy Follows Google's Lead, Abandons China

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...032401543.html

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GoDaddy.com Inc., the world's largest domain name registration company, told lawmakers Wednesday that it will cease registering Web sites in China in response to intrusive new government rules that require applicants to provide extensive personal data, including photographs of themselves.

The rules, the company believes, are an effort by China to increase monitoring and surveillance of Web site content and could put individuals who register their sites with the firm at risk. The company also believes the rules will have a "chilling effect" on new domain name registrations.

GoDaddy's move follows Google's announcement Monday that it will no longer censor search results on its site in China. Analysts and human rights advocates have warned that China's insistence on censorship and control over information is becoming a serious barrier to trade.

"GoDaddy is the first company to publicly follow Google's example in responding to the Chinese government's censorship of the Internet by partially retreating from the Chinese market," Rep. Christopher H. Smith (R-N.J.) said in a statement. "Google fired a shot heard 'round the world, and now a second American company has answered the call to defend the rights of the Chinese people."

Smith has sponsored a bill that would prevent U.S. companies from sharing personal user information with "Internet-restricting" countries.

In December, China began to enforce a new policy that required any registrant of a new .cn domain name to provide a color head shot and other business identification, including a Chinese business registration number and physical signed registration forms. That data was to be forwarded to the China Internet Network Information Center (CNNIC), a quasi-governmental agency. Most domain name registries require only name, address, telephone number and e-mail address.

"We were immediately concerned about the motives behind the increased level of registrant verification being required," Christine N. Jones, general counsel of the Go Daddy Group Inc., told the Congressional-Executive Commission on China on Wednesday. "The intent of the procedures appeared, to us, to be based on a desire by the Chinese authorities to exercise increased control over the subject matter of domain name registrations by Chinese nationals."

GoDaddy has been registering domain names since 2000 and has more than 40 million domain names under management. Jones said China was the first government to retroactively seek additional verification and documentation of registrants.

Jones also said GoDaddy customers with Chinese domain names have recently been attacked more frequently than in the past. The sites targeted tend to be those "deemed not appropriate" by Beijing -- sites that contain content about the Tiananmen Square uprising or human rights, for instance.

"When our sites get shut down in China, we are never told why . . . and it's impossible to know why," Jones said.

Arvind Ganesan, business and human rights director at Human Rights Watch, said China's new rules are yet another example in which the Beijing government has sought to tighten its censorship policies and undermine the ability of U.S. companies to operate freely.

"The underlying intent is if you're engaging in political speech, we want to know who's engaging in it and what Web site is behind it," Ganesan said. "This is a way the Chinese government can send a chilling message to people that they shouldn't speak freely online. It's forcing us companies to be both the censor and the spy on behalf of the Chinese government."

Jones said GoDaddy's decision to stop registering new domains was unrelated to Google's recent decision.

"With all due respect, this has nothing to do with Google," she said. She added that the company had been deliberating what it would do about its business in China before Google's announcement.

Said Jones, "We decided we didn't want to be agents of China."

China: The World Power of The Future~!

i dont think China care at all

They'll care when the world turns to India for everything, and China slips into irrelevancy.

yeah funny you say that how come we don't get made in India stuff everywhere yet?

Genuine question. Too many people? Or they just can't make stuff?

No. Just before dell pulls out, they'll slip minitransformers into the laptops which will eat their users when china wishes.
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Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 6877272)

yeah funny you say that how come we don't get made in India stuff everywhere yet?

Genuine question. Too many people? Or they just can't make stuff?

Because China started before them. India is quickly catching up though.

lol china started before?
India - 1947
China 1989

its because india is a democracy
decision making is slow since there needs to be consent and approval whereas china can do everything and anything it wants to further economic gain, at the expense of human rights, pollution, etc

What are you going on about?

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6877285)

Because China started before them. India is quickly catching up though.

sometimes you really should do the research before bashing, less troll-like you know.

China has the manufacturing advantage because it's a state-control economy, where everything can be worked out with a few people, instead of going through a process and the cost of mass production is extremely low.

If you need an example, just visit any city halls' engineering department, and ask about the time it takes from proposing to actually doing any road work. In China, it takes a fraction of the time, fraction of the cost, and fraction of the actual construction time.

India will never take the manufacturing jobs, because the cost associated with labour workers are WAY too high. This is coming from first hand experience too. The workers there are "union" without any of the pros. If any countries is taking the manufacturing jobs, it will be Indonesia or Vietnam.

and yes, China really doesnt care about godaddy.com other than the super bowl commercials.

Bashing? Trolling?

OK, anyway...

Basically, when companies leave China (and more and more will) they will go to India instead. Maybe it will cost more, but to many the added cost will be worth it.

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6877444)

Bashing? Trolling?

OK, anyway...

Basically, when companies leave China (and more and more will) they will go to India instead. Maybe it will cost more, but to many the added cost will be worth it.

Depends on the nature of the company though. If it;s not high-tech related, South-East Asia countries are generally a better bet than India.

newsflash skinnypupp

competitive trans-national corporations could give a flying fuck about business ethics when dealing with third world / industrializing countries

it doesn't matter how many companies leave china, because another company will seize the golden opportunity and fill that spot overnight

money talks

all you do is spew bullshit and troll

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Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 6877272)

yeah funny you say that how come we don't get made in India stuff everywhere yet?

Genuine question. Too many people? Or they just can't make stuff?

Because Indians are too smart to work in factories for 10 cents a hour.

Tech wise India is ahead of China.

they'll have fake google and godaddy in no time

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Originally Posted by TRD Rs200 (Post 6877845)

they'll have fake google and godaddy in no time

But they won't have the name recognition Google and Godaddy have in North America and the rest of the world.

they're too busy cracking captcha codes for 10 cents an hour instead.

all I am ever doing is stating my own opinion on this matter. you guys are the ones throwing shit at me. if you can disagree with me without being a complete moron, you have my full respect. otherwise shut the fuck up and stop wasting your time trolling me.
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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 6877972)

But they won't have the name recognition Google and Godaddy have in North America and the rest of the world.

China don't really need to give a fuck about the rest of the world, when supplying the demand within the country is already hard enough.

The future of all business in China would not be export, but domestic use.

Who else is waiting for the Chinese government to bend over to the will of corporations?

imagine if wal-mart suppliers sourced their merchandise to india... China will probably collapse

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Originally Posted by no_clue (Post 6878151)

imagine if wal-mart suppliers sourced their merchandise to india... China will probably collapse

you joking right ? wal-mart?

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Originally Posted by Illuminate (Post 6878143)

Who else is waiting for the Chinese government to bend over to the will of corporations?

I see wat you did their :awesom:

India is not even comparable to China in terms of economic scale..

China's GDP is 2nd in the world, where as India's GDP is only 13rd place, even behind Canada(which is 12nd place)

The GDP of the Chinese province of Jiansu, Zhejiang, and Shanghai surpasses the entire Indian GDP.

I have relatives working for a Taiwanese company in the electronic manufacturing in Shanghai China, and they say that the company also have manufacturing facililty in India...but the effeciency is not even close to China.

And by the way, India is by no means high tech...they take the lowest end and the most hedious type of IT jobs that the Americans or Japanese or Taiwanese dont do, like basic programing, debugging(where you sepnt countless hours looking at codes), and call centre...to call it a high tech country is like saying Vancouver is the financial centre of North America, total joke.