yes, it will be hard to enforce, but No self respecting guy should have sex with this girl. I know there are few situations where a guy will turn down sex, but this definitely would be one of them.

Not until the investigation is complete. After that, she will have to show up for court but even then, we won't know what will come out of this.

I'd definitely turn her down after what she's done.

However, I'm pretty sure some guys would love to screw her since they won't need to use condoms and not need to worry about kids.

wow stop fucking posting on RS.

shit that sucks

Sentencing for woman convicted of infanticide to start Monday | News1130

Sarah Leung, Vancouver Mother, Guilty In Babies' Deaths

pooor innocent child :(

It was 2 counts. So children.

It's amazing to think that there are people who think to dispose of a child like trash just to hide it from parents/bf/husband/whoever.

Given it happened twice, I'm not so sure about how "recoverable" she is for normal society living. Surely, she's up for a life of being supervised at the very least.

Too bad the government can't step in and order a sterilization to be done.

That's a dumb comment. After that, let's sterilize the gingers, then this "defective gene or race/color"

...that escalated quickly
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Cunningham alleged that in March 2010, when Leung gave birth to her second son, she put the baby inside a plastic bag and held him against her chest to keep him quiet until he stopped moving.

Leung then put the bag inside a trash can outside the house and covered it with a piece of cardboard, Cunningham said.


That is just, horrid. Speachless
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How is sterilizing people who have killed newborn children dumb? Convicted computer hackers can have their computers revoked and are banned from accessing the internet, people with DUI's can be banned from driving, why can't she be banned from breeding?

i think we needa take some laws back to the stone ages.

eye for an eye, put that bitch in a plastic bag till she stops breathing then throw her in the trash.

saves tax payers money and the justice system can focus on other things.

this

lol, she should just go to prison and rehab and see a psychiatrist or whatever.

all these comments on killing her or sterilizing her are totally retarded. people talking out of spite, wanting revenge and seeing someone hurt.

it's a super slippery slope.

if you want to let your dark side of hatred, anger, fear and revenge take over for all these instances... and the "LOGIC" behind it is to "PREVENT" more from happening... it will only lead to chaos. we might as well go back to the dark ages.

i have the perfect solution to prevent crime...

if only the living can commit crimes, then living should be a crime. therefore no one that is alive can possibly be innocent. to prevent all crimes, we should prevent all life.

there's a reason we don't execute people or mutilate people. No matter what, there will always be more harm done in the long run. people wrongly accused, people framed. corrupt governments targeting their "enemies", over zealous fanatics (ahem everyone posting right now). No matter what, MORE "innocents" will suffer under those rules than anything else.

most people are too stupid, and too blinded by demonic revenge to see that.
they're no different than the accused. they just want to see pain inflicted on others.
eyes wide, waiting for blood to draw so they can get their weird sick and twisted satisfaction from seeing another suffer under "justified cause".

of course it's justified when you're judging with emotions. everything is justified when you think that way.

for those still too retarded to understand, you're the latter:

"Evil begets evil."

the only way to avoid that, is to be aware, and not perpetuate it with twisted "justified" punishments.



these guys are a reflection of you guys. savages.
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"JUSTIFIED"


How foolish one must be, to think that they can improve their lives, by making other people's lives worse.
-Ulic

We see what you mean but this doesn't apply when not 1 but 2 newborns are killed. When does it stop?

You are comparing (imposed) mutilation/change to computers/driving bans. :suspicious:

She killed two newborns; she likely has some sort of mental illness that needs treating. If we start automatically sterilizing individuals who are guilty of infanticide, then when do we draw the line? Do we then start sterilizing those with autism? Schizo? Dwarfinism? Genetic flaws? IQ Under 120? Murderers (At what number do we use to determine when they should be sterilized? - one murder? two? 3? attempted?)

Yes, we all know of the slippery slope, and there's good reason.

It's a legitimate question though, if someone is convicted of repeated infanticide why is sterilization not a possible option? Perhaps not immediately, but after proper medical help and psychiatric evaluations?

I can understand the concern over a slippery slope but now you're comparing someone who has repeatedly committed infanticide to groups of people who have harmed nobody (replace "sterilization" in your post with "gun ban" and "infanticide" with "murder" and you'll see what I mean), I'm comparing the consequences that are faced by convicted offenders of various crimes. Criminal offenders are often barred from possessing the means to commit the crimes they have previously been convicted of, how is this so different? And I'm not talking about sterilization as a way to remove her from the gene pool or something, it would be a way to ensure that she can't become pregnant and commit infanticide again, which is where my previous comparison comes in.

the repeated crimes committed and the victims involve are a small price to pay for the overwhelming innocents that will be harmed in the long run.

you guys are looking 1 foot ahead of us, subordinate and i are looking further than just our generation.

you forget, people normalize. two generations from now when you're old and your opinions don't matter and no one cares about you... and the youth have been growing up with "justified" executions and mutilations or whatever other ideas you guys have... then the next step will be easier.

every step is easier after the previous one has been taken.

like i said, over zealous types, manipulators, corrupt, will use those very same tools you request now, to get their way. over time, they will win.

the only way to prevent that, is to NEVER let anyone do those things period. because people always forget. things always normalize, and the next step to extremity doesn't seem that extreme anymore.

like i said, the victims now, are a small price to pay for the overall peace and integrity of the future.

why not just throw them in prison indefinitely? why? cuz it's inhumane? lol... so u guys suggest mutilating them... yeah... that's... really logical.

we can't kill em! so lets disable em!

if i were her, and the government cut my ovaries out, i'd plan and get back at society 100x harder than killing newborns.

if she becomes a monster, you guys created her.

it's better to just leave her to do whatever fucked up things she does. she's obviously fucked in the head. like subordinate says... slippery slope.

when do we start sterilizing retarded people?
your excuse is repeat offender.

if evil ulic ever comes into power, you would be charged with the crime of repeated offending of whatever crime i choose. and the excuse would be you're genetically dispositioned to commit crime because according to my standards, you have a genetic flaw. and also a repeat offender under my domain. sterilized.

how do you like that?

i mean it's no different than the middle east chopping hands off of thieves. they get to chop a lot of hands... but hands are born everyday. thievery doesn't stop. sure that ONE guy can't steal anymore, but hey, babies are being born everyday, why not just chop their hands off at birth, then no one can steal... ever.


when someone commits a crime, you don't focus on how to prevent them from committing it again.
you guys are focusing on the wrong aspect. not HOW.

but WHY are they committing the crime. if you figure out the why, then you can help stop it without brute force. brute force is only a temporary solution.

there will be plenty other versions of her, who don't care about the punishment, and they'll keep doing it. just like junkies. you can execute people for possessing drugs. but people will still do it. the solution doesn't work (it does if all you want is to entertain yourselves by seeing others hurt in the name of "justice")

stop focusing on the immediate victims and think about all the people that won't be falsely brutalized.

the trade off is a no brainer. it exponentially exceeds the justification of satisfying immediate sadistic tenancies. like i have said before:
the justice system is not in place to satisfy victims or the public.

we can go back to the dark ages where the accused can be tied up and everyone can throw rocks and rotten vegetables at them. everyone gets a punch at the accused. everyone gets satisfied. and again, the week after, we'll have another person to throw rocks at. and the next week. and the next.

some solution that is.

Couldn't have said it any better Ulic.

It disappoints me that people over react and want immediate justice to this girl. (& not to mention she wasn't even treated for the first infanticide, psychologically speaking.).

Too many of you are short sighted to realize the full impact of letting the government sterilize this woman.

Let's stop and critically think about what we are saying. To mutilate her body... her right to her body. At what point do we not have a right to our own bodies? When we are deemed mentally ill? Ok, then when do we stop, at what line? Like Ulic said, we give them this right, it's going to be easier for them to keep at it. As the saying goes, "give them an inch, they take a mile"

And we are giving it to what? A organizational body that is appointed or elected? How we to know if they will not become corrupted, and someone with Hitler ideology is implemented. And new policies are created?

Meanwhile, in America.... A woman was has been accused of killing 6 newborns at her home. SIX! Her husband said he had no idea about any of the pregnancies..... Police: U.S. woman accused of killing 6 infants, storing them in garage, gave birth at home | CP24.com

BREAKING NEWS: Vancouver mother sentenced for killing her babies
Sarah Leung has been sentenced to five years in prison for killing her newborn sons in 2009 and 2010. She was convicted of infanticide earlier this year.

Vancouver mother sentenced to five years for killing her babies | News1130

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) – Sarah Leung has been sentenced to five years in prison for killing her newborn sons in 2009 and 2010.

The 28-year-old delivered babies into the toilet of her family home, then disposed of them in plastic bags she tossed into the garbage. Her first baby was born in February, 2009. The second was born in March, 2010.

In April, Leung was convicted of two counts of infanticide, though she was originally charged with second-degree murder.

Leung has been sentenced to 18 months for the first killing and 42 months for the second. She will be given 50 days’ credit for time already served. She must also report any future pregnancies to whatever province she lives in for the next 20 years.

During sentencing today, the judge called the killings “inexplicable” and “abhorrent,” and noted that Leung is now married to the man who fathered the two killed newborns.

The Crown had asked for an eight-year sentence, while the defence called for three years.

“I can say nothing other than it appears to be a very well considered, thoughtful decision, and I can’t say that it’s outside the range of possible sentences in this case,” says Leung’s lawyer, Richard Fowler.

“[The judge] sat through all of the evidence,” he adds. “She observed Ms. Leung on many days in court, and I believe that the sentence is consistent with the nature of the offenses.”

When asked about criticism of the decision on social media, Fowler told reporters, “It’s 12 essentially randomly picked members of the community who heard all of the evidence. So the people that are tweeting you undoubtedly didn’t hear all of the evidence and the jury considered their verdict for six days.”

After sentencing, Leung hugged her lawyers as a sheriff took her away. Her father wept loudly as he left the courtroom.